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Posted by LOOPS on October 11, 2007, at 19:13:47
Hi people -
I don't know if anybody remembers me - I don't post much but used to as I seem to have experimented with everything!
I just wanted to say that I have a new 'list' of my favourite supplements.
Please note I am prone to anxiety, depression and am possibly bipolar which throws a large influence on my choice of supplements.
So: -
1) Magnesium. The main thing. Sleep, depression et al. Balance with calcium but NOT TOO MUCH CALCIUM. Too much calcium = tense crapness. But too little calcium = nervousness for me (you really have to experiment with the balance for yourself).
2) Multi-vit with lots of C, zinc, a little bit of copper (not too much) say 30mg zinc and 1mg copper is good for me
3) extra B vitamins and even more THIAMINE if you drink any alcohol (I still do unfortunately)and suffer anxiety. HOWEVER - too much B complex makes me on edge - I'm talking one of those B-50 things turns me into a nutter, but lower doses (like 10mg) is fine and helpful.
4)occasional niacin/amide although I have mixed results with this stuff. I went a whole week feeling really good with this stuff but then everything went downhill (got anxious). There is a possible need to balance it with pantothenic acid which I was not really doing so take equal amounts of each.
5) Lithium orotate (revisited for me). The older I get, the more I realize I am probably bipolar and this stuff is indispensable if you suffer from 'extremes'. I am at present taking 1 a day, which is not much, but right now (it's Spring here in Chile) I feel I need an extra balancer.
6)Balancing EPA (fish oil) with GLA (right now EPO but I am thinking of changing to blackcurrant seed oil). --The jury is still out on this one. I got scared off these supplements after getting depressed taking GLA even with fish oil. However I am trying them again. Fish oil on its own makes me very 'up' - hypomanic I suppose - GLA complements it.
7) SMALL amounts of taurine. I already get some taurine from my diet (I eat a lot of meat, fat and vegetables) but still it is good to counteract morning anxiety.
Well what the H - I might be spouting out my rear about all this stuff. The point is, I think these things have helped.
Now for stuff that didn't -
1) tyrosine. ARG. I don't need any more excitory crap going round my system. I got downright angry on this stuff.
2)glutamine. None of the calming GABA - only felt stimulated from this stuff. Horrible.
3)5htp. Makes me suicidal. Great for 3 days then deep down into crap.
4)TMG. Awful. Felt very irritable.
Well enough negativity on that stuff. Everybody is different so go with what works for YOU.
Take care
Loops
Posted by sregan on October 11, 2007, at 21:26:54
In reply to How's everybody doin'?, posted by LOOPS on October 11, 2007, at 19:13:47
Hey Loops, Great idea. I'll add mine.
Me - likely CFS with a side of anxiety and depression
I found accidentally that L-Lysine and L-Glutamine help me sleep although I run out of steam later in the day I feel much better earlier on. I assume it's doing something with cortisol. If you add L-Cysteine you get the recipe for Glutathione. Tonight I'm taking all three.
Theanine helped for a while to control anxiety.
Klonopin for a long time. I just got off (5+ weeks) and my libido has bounced back big time.
Taurine at times stopped anxiety.
Magnesium/Glycinate helped anxious/jitters and at time when I couldn't focus.
Recently NAC with ALA helped but not so much any more.
Lately it's been tryptophan and tyrosine trying to keep the precursors high.
I'm very careful about anything that changes methylation. Folicin can wipe me out and B-6 recently removed any trace of personality.
I am also careful about anything that lowers cortisol. Saw Palmetto for example wipes me out the next day.
I take glutamate blockers when I wake up in the AM to help me sleep. There seems to be a circadian burst of glutamate at night that the Klonopin helped with. Not 25 mg zinc, taurine, 100 mg mag/glycinate....
...last but not least Kudzu.. Believe it or not it is a pretty amazing little herb.
google for "cluster headache" and kudzu.
Shawn
www.subref.com
Posted by sregan on October 12, 2007, at 21:13:22
In reply to Re: How's everybody doin'? » LOOPS, posted by sregan on October 11, 2007, at 21:26:54
> I found accidentally that L-Lysine and L-Glutamine help me sleep although I run out of steam later in the day I feel much better earlier on. I assume it's doing something with cortisol. If you add L-Cysteine you get the recipe for Glutathione.
Correction, it's Glycine not Lysine with Glutamine and Cysteine that become glutathione
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