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Posted by daorlando on August 5, 2006, at 6:13:59
Almost every time I start to take a supplement/herb (i.e. kava, gotu kola, multivitamins, valerian, etc.) that effects my mood I develop a kind of mild 'spaciness' where I have trouble reading and responding to social situations, keeping up with conversation and comprehending what is going on. In a way I would say that the supplement make it difficult for me to keep focused and to normally formulate my thoughts.
Back in the past days of my drug usage this was very obvious with marijuana, where - after smoking it - I often didn't know how to respond anymore, because my mind simply became completely empty and there was nothing for me to do than to be aware of that and sit still and stare.
From what I gather I think I might have a case of ADD (prefrontal cortex and dopamine problem). For this Dr. Daniel G. Amen recommends supplements such as stimulants (tyrosine) and anti-depressants (st. johns wort) yet at the same time warns that people with temporal lobe symptoms like periods of panic or fear for no specific reason, periods of spaciness or confusion, dark thoughts, etc. to avoid them. Since I experience those symptoms too from time to time I'm a bit confused on how to proceed.
I would be very interested to hear if anyone else here experienced similar problems and how he/she dealt with them.
Thanks!
Posted by Declan on August 5, 2006, at 12:35:49
In reply to Supplements making brain fog worse (ADD?), posted by daorlando on August 5, 2006, at 6:13:59
That state on marijuana where you don't know how to respond or cannot find within yourself the certainty of how to go forwards, nor any certainty at all is interesting.
I volunteer at a local radio station where I can never find anything and things have to be done according to procedures. Someone will come in to pick up a prize. It's the sort of place where it's acceptable (after some beaurocratic failure) to say to whoever that collecting the prize may be so stressful that some winners never recover. So I try to find words to correspond roughly to my experience.
Fear and panic for no specific reason? I have assumed that there is a reason tucked away somewhere in there (fear of nothingness!) and that if I am sufficiently ingenious I will find it. But even if its some random chemical thingo (leaving aside the question of whether this is really an either/or) I still want to find words for it, because that, after all is what we do.
As for useful interventions, my options are limited by insomnia. But I'd mention the following as interesting.
Deprenyl
Hydergine
Vinpocetine
TianeptineI'm open to the suggestion that these might only make things worse though (very good at shooting myself through the foot).
My nutritional docor recommended SJW and SAMe too.
Thanks for the description of your symptoms; just like mine.Declan
Posted by linkadge on August 9, 2006, at 18:20:45
In reply to Re: Supplements making brain fog worse (ADD?) » daorlando, posted by Declan on August 5, 2006, at 12:35:49
You might combine something for the temporal lobes and for the frontal cortex.
Taurine + Fo-Ti (MAO-B inhibitor)
or Taurine + Deprenyl ?Linkadge
Posted by daorlando on August 11, 2006, at 12:46:30
In reply to Re: Supplements making brain fog worse (ADD?), posted by linkadge on August 9, 2006, at 18:20:45
I've tried out Taurine last week and it didn't make me feel too good. I've started Omega 3 supplement yesterday and I feel more-focused already. Interesting.
Thank you for your suggestion anyway. I might try the combination.
> You might combine something for the temporal lobes and for the frontal cortex.
>
> Taurine + Fo-Ti (MAO-B inhibitor)
> or Taurine + Deprenyl ?
>
> Linkadge
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