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Posted by verne on May 4, 2006, at 0:26:59
I take Jarrow's "Silymarin" and always notice the strangest reaction, hours later or even the next day: my skin gets oily. The more I take, the oilier it gets.
I have a normal liver panel and good health overall. Could I be detoxing when this happens? I've been noticing this for years even when sober for a long time.
And if I take a large dose of milk thistle within a day or two of drinking, my right side will hurt and I can actually see my abdomen vibrating. I haven't clocked it but figure my liver needs a tune-up - but what's the proper timing for a liver?
I have to think the hype about milk thistle is true. It really does seem to target the liver. I don't think it's ever shortened a hangover though. If anything, too much milk thistle is agitating, and, in my case, may lead to even more drinking if taken too soon after a bender.
I hold it in high regard but use with caution.
vERNE
Posted by john berk on May 4, 2006, at 8:50:51
In reply to Milk Thistle Extract, posted by verne on May 4, 2006, at 0:26:59
Hi Verne,
thanks for the caution, i just started taking Milk Thistle, and i have a tendency to overdo everything, so caution for me is definetly in order. i have read some very interesting things about Milk Thistle lately, i am a recovering alcoholic, and although my liver enzymes are back to normal, i read that every alcoholic has some degree of fatty liver, even if it doesn't show in an enzyme count, so i am taking Silymarin with the hope of protecting future damage
plus i have read that it is a great anti-oxidant, plus has recently shown to block uvb sun damage, and since i tan in the summer, this could be an added bonus. i hope you do well...john
Posted by honeybee on May 10, 2006, at 15:18:08
In reply to Re: Milk Thistle Extract » verne, posted by john berk on May 4, 2006, at 8:50:51
I took this for years when I was on effexor in the hopes that it would protect my liver from damage (it was a one daily, time release pill), partly because I had had an abnormal liver panel once just when I was recovering from an eating disorder.
There have been many, many studies published on it indicating that it's a powerful, protective medicinal. I don't have quite the same reactions that you do, but I believe them. A good friend of mine even took an herbal blend supplement containing milk thistle which cleared up her acne. She'd been skeptical about herbal treatments prior to that, but has become a believer.
Posted by john berk on May 10, 2006, at 15:26:57
In reply to Re: Milk Thistle Extract, posted by honeybee on May 10, 2006, at 15:18:08
Thanks Honeybee,
that was a really informative link,you also reminded me i forgot to take my tablet today, I think I'll go pop one now, take care...john
Posted by heaven help me on May 29, 2006, at 13:57:57
In reply to Milk Thistle Extract, posted by verne on May 4, 2006, at 0:26:59
Is there ANYTHING that you should NOT take Milk Thistle with, any conventional med, herb, homeopathic or otherwise? Can you OD on it in some way? anyone?
thanks
mary
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 30, 2006, at 13:42:19
In reply to Re: Milk Thistle Extract QUESTION, posted by heaven help me on May 29, 2006, at 13:57:57
> Is there ANYTHING that you should NOT take Milk Thistle with, any conventional med, herb, homeopathic or otherwise? Can you OD on it in some way? anyone?
> thanks
> maryNot that I've heard of. It is generally considered to be something that helps protect your liver despite toxic aspects of other drugs.
Lar
Posted by heaven help me on May 30, 2006, at 20:42:18
In reply to Re: Milk Thistle Extract QUESTION » heaven help me, posted by Larry Hoover on May 30, 2006, at 13:42:19
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Posted by honeybee on May 31, 2006, at 17:29:26
In reply to Thanks Larry! (nm), posted by heaven help me on May 30, 2006, at 20:42:18
Hi, Mary,
The article that I linked to in my above post also says that AIDS patients (I don't imagine that you're one) should be wary because it inhibits this liver enzyme: CYP3A4--causing elevated levels. You might want to check your other meds to see if they're processed by that enzyme, as well, and talk to your doctor about it.
hb
Posted by heaven help me on June 1, 2006, at 12:42:25
In reply to Re: Thanks Larry! » heaven help me, posted by honeybee on May 31, 2006, at 17:29:26
nm
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 6, 2006, at 7:06:03
In reply to Re: Thanks Larry! » heaven help me, posted by honeybee on May 31, 2006, at 17:29:26
> Hi, Mary,
>
> The article that I linked to in my above post also says that AIDS patients (I don't imagine that you're one) should be wary because it inhibits this liver enzyme: CYP3A4--causing elevated levels. You might want to check your other meds to see if they're processed by that enzyme, as well, and talk to your doctor about it.
>
> hbI thought I answered this, but I guess I forgot to send it.
In vitro tests suggest that milk thistle influences cytochrome enzyme rates, but in vivo tests have shown the effect to be very small. For most people, I would presume a negligible effect. However, if there appears to be an interaction, I would to this as the explanation for it.
Lar
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