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Posted by Declan on October 18, 2005, at 6:40:40
In reply to Need some responses, guys, please!, posted by Michael Bell on October 13, 2005, at 19:42:37
Can't help you at all, Michael, but I am curious (and I hope I haven't asked you this before) as to how the Plasmin Plus thing is going with you, and whether you have anything to say about it.
Declan
Posted by Michael Bell on October 18, 2005, at 6:41:09
In reply to Plasmin Plus » Michael Bell, posted by Declan on October 13, 2005, at 22:52:36
> Can't help you at all, Michael, but I am curious (and I hope I haven't asked you this before) as to how the Plasmin Plus thing is going with you, and whether you have anything to say about it.
> DeclanPlasmin Plus helped, especially with taking away the side effects. But it wasn't until I ordered Acacia powder and kaolin powder online and added it to the crushed nardil, with a little bit of water, that the effectiveness really increased substantially. I ran out of plasmin plus, but what i do is put the mixture in a small gelatin tab, then put two bigger gelatin tabs around it. I'm quite positive that even this won't survive the stomach like plasmin plus, but for some reason the effectiveness hasn't gone down.
Adding the acacia was somewhat beneficial, but further adding the kaolin has made a *very* noticeable difference. Not placebo.
Ridiculous that I have to do all that. Whatever
Hope that helps. Later.
Posted by bigcat on October 25, 2005, at 9:19:14
In reply to Nardil acacia kaolin, posted by Michael Bell on October 17, 2005, at 12:16:30
Hey Michael,
Could you go into further detail about adding the acacia and kaolin powder to the crushed up nardil? how much of each do you add, and do you add it to each crushed up nardil mixture and then put it in a plasmin capsule separately? I'm very interested in the idea, and would like to hear more so I can attempt this method PROPERLY and not simply guess on the amounts or process of adding the acacia and kaolin. I'd appreciate any tips and guidance.Thank you kindly,
-matt-
Posted by Muad' Dib on November 9, 2005, at 6:11:31
In reply to Re: Nardil acacia kaolin, posted by bigcat on October 25, 2005, at 9:19:14
Michael - where do you buy Acacia and Kaolin?
Also you mentioned in the past Gotu Kola working for SP - how much did you take? Thanks.
Posted by Questionmark on May 16, 2011, at 1:18:56
In reply to Nardil acacia kaolin, posted by Michael Bell on October 18, 2005, at 6:41:09
Someone should try this. I should try it mySELF, and i still intend to, but i am the King of Procrastination and have a lot going on right now. So in case i act predictably, someone else should try it -- preferably more than one person, and preferably sooner than later.
Awhile back, this Michael Bell guy claimed to have started taking Nardil crushed up in enteric coated capsules, to great effect.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050510/msgs/506644.html
He then altered the method to what is stated below.
I don't know about about his theory for the physiological reasons behind it, but if his experience is replicable, it could be ... well, profound, in my view. If Nardil's pharmacokinetics could be somehow slowed and extended, it would reduce the magnitude of side effects, reduce magnitude of risk for a hypertensive or other negative reaction, and have smoother effects and, of course, a longer duration of action.
I don't know if his method actually did slow and extend the pharmocokinetics, but that seems to be what's indicated.We really should all try this and report our experiences. And if you have any other ideas or recommendations for potential ways to slow absorption and increase duration, please let us know. .. Or if you know any good sources for fillable enteric coated capsules.
> > Can't help you at all, Michael, but I am curious (and I hope I haven't asked you this before) as to how the Plasmin Plus thing is going with you, and whether you have anything to say about it.
> > Declan
>
> Plasmin Plus helped, especially with taking away the side effects. But it wasn't until I ordered Acacia powder and kaolin powder online and added it to the crushed nardil, with a little bit of water, that the effectiveness really increased substantially. I ran out of plasmin plus, but what i do is put the mixture in a small gelatin tab, then put two bigger gelatin tabs around it. I'm quite positive that even this won't survive the stomach like plasmin plus, but for some reason the effectiveness hasn't gone down.
>
> Adding the acacia was somewhat beneficial, but further adding the kaolin has made a *very* noticeable difference. Not placebo.
>
> Ridiculous that I have to do all that. Whatever
>
> Hope that helps. Later.
>
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