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Posted by sabre on November 15, 2004, at 23:34:59
Hello
I am continuing to experiment with tyrosine however I have noticed a growing feeling of bleakness upon wakening and lots of wearing, heavy duty dreaming. Exercise seems to ease it but not altogether.Could this be due to going off Lexapro totally?
The other thought I had was that if you keep upping the dopamine/NA side of things that the serotonin is relatively deficient....mucking up the overall balance?I tried 1/3 tsp of tryptophan after all the debating above. (I had tried it long ago but on one 1/2 tsp dose it felt like a bad hangover the next day.) Felt good this morning until after a run I was hit with gut troubles. I had been off gluten and lactose for about 2 years to bring an inflammatory (no, not irritable bowel) bowel problem under control and have had great success to the point that I now occasionally eat gluten.
The tryptophan seemed to bring back the old familiar gut problems. It's a different pain to that experienced with just a simple upset gut. Does anyone else have this experience?A few days ago I tried combining Tyrosine with Phenyalanine. I think I might save that combination for special occasions! I took a 1/2 tsp of P and about an hour later I noticed the pain in my feet had abated. Also had real euphoria. Floated off to the book shop and bought a tome on ''Neuroscience'',(by Dale Purves et al) convinced I'd have its 600+pgs read and understood by dinner time. (I'm up to pg 37!)
Came crashing down later that day.Took neither the next day and slept like the dead after lunch for a couple of hours. It was one of those glorious sleeps where someone knocked on the door (on the couch in the loungeroom) and it felt like paralysis. I could hear the knocking but couldn't move or speak. Weird. But felt great after!
The tyrosine, tryptophan and phenylalanine didn't touch the social anxiety. I hate it.
I was browsing through some of the other medical books and came upon a WHO book on the management of mental problems. They had a brief section on SA and how it could usually be managed by progressive exposure to feared situations. Yeah right. I've been doing that for years and it hasn't changed a thing. I wanted to hurl the book through the windows but I was afraid someone might look at me (ha ha.
sabre
Posted by raybakes on November 17, 2004, at 6:09:32
In reply to Tyrosine and phenylalanine, posted by sabre on November 15, 2004, at 23:34:59
Hi Sabre,
Did you know serotonin is the primary neurotransmitter that moves the gut? Think it's been found to be high in IBS sufferers.
I have been experimenting with tyrosine and phenylalanine recently but also have been getting good results by imporving my brain energy with carnosine, creatine, betaine(TMG) and carnitine. My thinking is that as well as improving the supply of neurotransmitters, the neurons need the energy to react to them.
Ray
Posted by sabre on November 17, 2004, at 14:26:31
In reply to Re: Tyrosine and phenylalanine » sabre, posted by raybakes on November 17, 2004, at 6:09:32
Hi Ray
I did know that most of the serotonin receptors are in the gut and I think my recent experimentation with Tryptophan conmfirmed it!I also found later that day that I suffered asthma while running hard. In the ''Encyclopaedia of Natural Medicine'' they mentioned that a diet low in Tryptophan is good for asthma. I think I will give all serotonin boosters a swerve as they all seem to hinder rather than help.
I have tried creatine for running but haven't trialled any of the other supplements you suggested.
I will put them on my steadily growing list of things to try. I can see that breakfast will soon be just a massive plate of powders!
Thanks Ray
sabre
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