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Q to MichaelBell about GotuKola « btnd

Posted by Dr. Bob on May 28, 2004, at 0:02:01

In reply to Q to MichaelBell about GotuKola, posted by btnd on May 27, 2004, at 12:24:39

Posted by btnd on May 27, 2004, at 12:24:39

> Hi Michael,
> I've a q for you about Gotu Kola. You've mentioned in one of your posts that it was the best "herbal" supplement that you've tried for social-anxiety/phobia. Could you say more about it? What could it be compared to (which med) ? Does it make you only "not-anxious" or actually pro-sociable? And the last q: have you ever tried GHB(Xyrem) for SP? Thanks for your time.
>
> Brad

 

Re: Q to MichaelBell about GotuKola » Dr. Bob

Posted by Michael Bell on May 28, 2004, at 19:40:02

In reply to Q to MichaelBell about GotuKola « btnd, posted by Dr. Bob on May 28, 2004, at 0:02:01

>

Gotu Kola was better for startle anxiety than SJW, Kava or theanine, but not as good as Picamilon. It was not prosocial, however. The reason I stopped taking it is because it caused fatigue and gave me pretty bad acne. Besides, I take Klonopin, so it's not like I needed to take Gotu. I was just trying it as a possible alternative.

I've never tried GHB, but I have no prejudices against it. However, I probably won't try it until they have an extender release version and I'm absolutely clear on the safety issues.

Posted by btnd on May 27, 2004, at 12:24:39
>
> > Hi Michael,
> > I've a q for you about Gotu Kola. You've mentioned in one of your posts that it was the best "herbal" supplement that you've tried for social-anxiety/phobia. Could you say more about it? What could it be compared to (which med) ? Does it make you only "not-anxious" or actually pro-sociable? And the last q: have you ever tried GHB(Xyrem) for SP? Thanks for your time.
> >
> > Brad
>

 

Re:Q to MichaelBell-GHB,Gotu,KlonopinMichaelBell

Posted by btnd on May 29, 2004, at 12:54:29

In reply to Re: Q to MichaelBell about GotuKola » Dr. Bob, posted by Michael Bell on May 28, 2004, at 19:40:02

> fatigue and gave me pretty bad acne.

For acne I *highly* recommend vit.B5 (pantothenic acid) in high doses. Do a google.com on newsgroups on "B5 group:alt.skincare.acne" for more info.

> Besides, I take Klonopin, so it's not like I needed to take Gotu. I was just trying it as a possible alternative.

How would you compare Gotu to Klonopin for social-anxiety? Does Klonopin cause you to be more pro-social or are just takes the anxiety away?


> I've never tried GHB, but I have no prejudices against it. However, I probably won't try it until they have an extender release version and I'm absolutely clear on the safety issues.


Why would you need extended version? You can take it every 2-3 hours and there are no problems with the addiction/withdrawals IF you take 1-2 days of it every week.

And it's the most PRO-SOCIAL med/supplement I have ever tried (and I've tried most of the social-anxiety stuff except Nardil/Parnate). Especially GHB combined with Adderall/Dexedrine (well, except MDMA of course ;-))
I highly recommend it.


> Posted by btnd on May 27, 2004, at 12:24:39
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > > I've a q for you about Gotu Kola. You've mentioned in one of your posts that it was the best "herbal" supplement that you've tried for social-anxiety/phobia. Could you say more about it? What could it be compared to (which med) ? Does it make you only "not-anxious" or actually pro-sociable? And the last q: have you ever tried GHB(Xyrem) for SP? Thanks for your time.
> > >
> > > Brad
> >
>
>


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