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Posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 14:41:37
I've seen research on chromium for atypical depression, but some people think picolinate isn't the safest form. Is that the best form to use for depression, though?... Also, some people seem to be using up to 1.5 mg, while the research seems to say 600 mcg. Is 1.5 mg a same amount? Thanks for any help you can be...
Posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 14:44:14
In reply to Chromium-- best form and safe maximum intake, posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 14:41:37
I meant to say, is 1.5 mg a day a SAFE amount?... Thanks
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 6, 2003, at 15:18:27
In reply to Chromium-- best form and safe maximum intake, posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 14:41:37
> I've seen research on chromium for atypical depression, but some people think picolinate isn't the safest form. Is that the best form to use for depression, though?... Also, some people seem to be using up to 1.5 mg, while the research seems to say 600 mcg. Is 1.5 mg a same amount? Thanks for any help you can be...
The picolinate may be associated with some adverse health effects, so why use that particular salt?
As to dose, there is no set Upper Limit, nor is there a defined NOAEL (no observable adverse effects limit), but that is not to say there is not a toxic threshold....it just isn't defined. 1.5 mg is a *lot* of chromium. 600 micrograms is a lot of chromium.
You might want to read up on chromium here:
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309072794/html/197.html#pagetop
Lar
Posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 20:47:35
In reply to Re: Chromium-- best form and safe maximum intake » Loki Wannabe, posted by Larry Hoover on December 6, 2003, at 15:18:27
Thanks for your response. Have you happened to follow thr research like that shown at http://www.nutrition21.com/Science/ResearchSummaries/depression.aspx ? I'd be interested in your reaction. --L.W.
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 7, 2003, at 7:29:01
In reply to Re: Chromium-- best form and safe maximum intake, posted by Loki Wannabe on December 6, 2003, at 20:47:35
> Thanks for your response. Have you happened to follow thr research like that shown at http://www.nutrition21.com/Science/ResearchSummaries/depression.aspx ? I'd be interested in your reaction. --L.W.
I still think that's a lot of chromium. The thing is, researchers often give high doses of e.g. chromium for short periods to boost the sensitivity of their study to treatment effects....it's a cost-effectiveness issue, not directly related to proving the best management practises.
What you may find useful is to apply the symptoms they specify to you, personally. If you feel an intuitive identification with the presenting symptoms of the particular depressives targetted in those studies, then it makes sense to try chromium supps...
There are all sorts of reasons why depression might exist in an individual person. Depression is a symptom, not a disease in its own right. If you can somehow "tune in" to the most appropriate therapies, by considering symptom clusters especially, you're more likely to find something that works for you. Nobody knows you better than you....and you can use that to your advantage.
Lar
Posted by Loki Wannabe on December 7, 2003, at 9:09:10
In reply to Re: Chromium-- best form and safe maximum intake » Loki Wannabe, posted by Larry Hoover on December 7, 2003, at 7:29:01
To: L.W.
Thanks again for responding and the information.--L.W.> > Thanks for your response. Have you happened to follow thr research like that shown at http://www.nutrition21.com/Science/ResearchSummaries/depression.aspx ? I'd be interested in your reaction. --L.W.
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> I still think that's a lot of chromium. The thing is, researchers often give high doses of e.g. chromium for short periods to boost the sensitivity of their study to treatment effects....it's a cost-effectiveness issue, not directly related to proving the best management practises.
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> What you may find useful is to apply the symptoms they specify to you, personally. If you feel an intuitive identification with the presenting symptoms of the particular depressives targetted in those studies, then it makes sense to try chromium supps...
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> There are all sorts of reasons why depression might exist in an individual person. Depression is a symptom, not a disease in its own right. If you can somehow "tune in" to the most appropriate therapies, by considering symptom clusters especially, you're more likely to find something that works for you. Nobody knows you better than you....and you can use that to your advantage.
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> Lar
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