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Posted by Lou Pilder on February 19, 2012, at 1:39:35
In reply to Lou's reply-structural similarities-opioidergic, posted by Lou Pilder on February 15, 2012, at 16:33:46
> > > > >QED
> > > >
> > > > Hardly. In spite of structural similarities, Effexor has an entirely different pharmacology to opioids. It is an SNRI, not a mu opioid agonist.
> > > >
> > > > ed,
> > > You wrote,[...structural similarities...].
> > > Here is a link to an article that could fit into this discussion.
> > > Lou
> > > http://opiods.com/tramadol/antidepressant.htm
> > > correction:
> > http://opioids.com//tramadol/antidepressant.html
> > >
> > Friends,
> Here is a link that could be helpful IMHHO in this discusssion for those interested.
> Lou
> http://www.biopsychiatry.com/venlafaxine-opioidergic.htm
> >
> Friends,
I had to leave a lot out of my exposition here due to the posted prohibition to me by Mr. Hsiung. Without the use of the prohibited material, I could not connect all of what I needed to show the consequences to the taker of these drugs as concerning addiction, withdrawal and death.
What I needed to introduce into the discussion concerned a particular type of opioid. This type of opioid is called a {phenylpiperidine} opioid. These type of opioids were found in the body of Anna Nicole Smith and her son that could have played a part in their deaths. These type of opioids are greatly addictive and the withdrawal has been described as much greater than the withdrawal from opium in the natural state such as morphine and codeine.
Now I also needed to introduce the drug, thalidomide, that can cause mutations. All of this could have opened up a wealth of educational material, IMHO, for those considering to take the drugs Effexor/Prisiq, or Tramadol. If you would like for me to have the freedom to post what is in the historical record concerning these drugs, and want Mr. Hsiung to lift his prohibition to me here, let me know by posting on the administartive board, not here. I think that lives could be saved and people could avoid a life-riuining condition if I was afforded the freedom to post here what is being prohiibited by Mr Hsiung to me, what is educational by the definition of education.
Lou
>
Posted by SLS on February 19, 2012, at 1:39:36
In reply to Lou's reply-structural similarities-phenylpiperidi, posted by Lou Pilder on February 17, 2012, at 6:09:38
> I had to leave a lot out of my exposition here due to the posted prohibition to me by Mr. Hsiung.
You could always direct your exposition towards my recent posts to you. They beg for you to engage in a meaningful debate about those things you purport as being fact for which I have provided refuting data and explanations. Of course, there is no mandate that you do this. However, I thought you might want to do this as it seems important for you to provide education.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 19, 2012, at 1:39:36
In reply to Opioid receptor debate. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on February 17, 2012, at 6:37:27
>I had to leave a lot out of my exposition here due to the posted prohibition to me by Mr. Hsiung.
How convenient!
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