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Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 15:56:12
I have not read this forum for some time now becasue I've been feeling good.However I noticed he banned some very helpful posters for a long time.The 2 posters I'm referring to specifically are Manic and Bulldog(I'm sure he must have banned other good posters to).I can understand someone being banned for a week,but to ban people for a 1/2 year or more is absurd.Plus they(Manic and Bulldog) did not post anything that was to bad.Matter of fact I did not see anything wrong in what they posted.They say some people in the mental health field are unstable themselves.Dr Bob,sorry but your unacceptable actions indicate you have many issues.Or perhaps your just a petty, very small person.I'm not going to guess.I don't expect Dr Bob to lift those unacceptable bans because,if he did lift the bans it would be the right and sane thing to do.It would be nice however if he did.A sidenote:I am NOT posters Manic or Bulldog,and have nothing to do with them.I'm sure you'll ban me,I don't care.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 15:56:12
In reply to Does Dr Bob need psychiatric help?, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 9:20:54
Also, there are not that many people posting lately.You need all the good posters you can get.Banning some of the most HELPFUL posters is absurd.Again banning someone for a week or even 2 is fine.Banning them for a 1/2 year or more is absurd.If someone posts just to cause trouble I can understand a longer ban,but that cartainly is NOT the case with the people I mentioned.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 15:56:13
In reply to Re: Does Dr Bob need psychiatric help?, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 9:42:08
One last thing,it is not my intention in any way to agitate or cause any type of negative discourse.Quite the opposite.People come here to both get and give advice on difficult situations.This is not an ordinary internet forum,and "Dr" Bob/Block should know better.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 16:19:40
In reply to Re: Does Dr Bob need psychiatric help?, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 15:56:13
Wether or not Dr. Bob has mental issues I dare not say. As someone who places the New York Times quote 'a brilliant and reticent Web mastermind' as his signature, he doesn't hide some narcissistic pride at least, which may or may not be healthy. Does it matter much?
Before I ventured to join this forum, I'd become well aware of Dr. Bob's sometimes rather strict rules. Joining this forum means abiding by the rules or being banned, to put it bluntly. For one thing, I think Dr. Bob is reasonably consistent in his application of the rules, although I don't know about the nitty-gritty details of the bans.
Plus, you gotta give him that he apparently takes the time to monitor the whole damn forum, which is a pretty large job. Or are there different Dr. Bobs? Students getting payed for it and having a laugh over their latest block? Speculation doesn't help us any further.
I think the strict rules of this forum have both advantages and disadvantages, but at least this is not your average forum where half of the threads disintegrate into vulgar slanging-matches.
Posted by Simcha on November 4, 2010, at 16:34:18
In reply to Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 16:19:40
Suicide rates are extremely high for psychiatrists. I would susoect that this is a function of lots of counter-transference from sitting with so many people who are in intense pain. Even if he is getting his own help, it wouldn't necessarily be appropriate for him to discuss it here.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 16:57:34
In reply to I'm sure he does. Most pdocs do., posted by Simcha on November 4, 2010, at 16:34:18
Perhaps a partial solution would be for someone here to start their own forum.I'm no expert but from what I know it's pretty easy to do.Then everyone can just stop posting here and post on the new forum instead using the same nicknames they have here.I'm in favor of 'proper' moderation,but Dr Bob( is totally out of control,and regardless of what issues he may have his actions(excessive blocks) are still totally UNACCEPTABE.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 17:02:41
In reply to Re: I'm sure he does. Most pdocs do., posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 16:57:34
People are not gonna come to any old suck-*ss forum. Creating a well-visited forum may be harder than you think.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 17:07:38
In reply to Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 16:19:40
One more thing if someone does start a new forum,the internet address should be posted so everyone knows about it.Brainbeard, I don't care about Dr Bob one way or the other.I don't even read the forum that much.But the other people that do participate deserve better.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 17:16:10
In reply to The Invisible Work, posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 17:02:41
You probably know alot more about that than me.So I don't know the answer than.I hope the situation gets sorted out somehow.I do know that trying to be reasonable with a person like 'Dr' Bob is a waste of time.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 17:16:49
In reply to Re: Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 17:07:38
Odon, I can see you're frustrated, and I'm shocked and frustrated here myself at times, but I really don't think that the crowd is gonna move over to another forum. Never hurts to try, of course.
I myself am active at this forum and at the Crazy Meds forum. CM is more focused on the Bipolar spectrum in my experience. Psychobabble is pretty broad. The CM moderators can be very strict, too. I never had any problem with them though. I have bumped against the rules here but I accept them as part of the deal. This is not to say I'm the perfect citizen. Far from it, I hope.
Posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 17:34:41
In reply to Re: Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 17:16:49
Actually Brainbeard I'm not frustrated for myself.I really don't read or post on the forum that much.It's all the other people that have been banned or turned off from posting that is the problem. Anyhow this is the last post I'll make about this topic.And by the way Brainbeard when I do read this forum you are one of the people I love reading,you're one heck of an intelligent guy.
Posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 17:46:31
In reply to Re: Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 17:34:41
> And by the way Brainbeard when I do read this forum you are one of the people I love reading,you're one heck of an intelligent guy.
Thanks man [blushes].
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 4, 2010, at 18:59:51
In reply to Does Dr Bob need psychiatric help?, posted by odon on November 4, 2010, at 15:56:12
> perhaps your just a petty, very small person
Please don't post anything that could lead others (including me) to feel put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
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> I noticed he banned some very helpful posters for a long time.The 2 posters I'm referring to specifically are Manic and Bulldog(I'm sure he must have banned other good posters to).
I'm sure they appreciate your support. Since you don't want posters to be blocked, please do what you can to try to prevent more blocks. Protests haven't proved all that effective at preventing blocks and may even encourage behaviors that lead to them. You have the right to protest (as long as you're civil), but if your goal is to prevent more blocks, please consider a different strategy.
Thanks,
Bob
> You have the power to pick your battles.
>
> Battling Dr. Bob on PB Admin? Generally results in frustration and effects on policy ranging from
> - none
> - the exact opposite of what you intended to accomplish
> - some other seemingly random policy change that isn't what you wanted.
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> Choose wisely!http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090302/msgs/893534.html
Posted by alexandra_k on November 5, 2010, at 5:17:41
In reply to Dos, Don'ts And Diddies, posted by Brainbeard on November 4, 2010, at 16:19:40
> Before I ventured to join this forum, I'd become well aware of Dr. Bob's sometimes rather strict rules.Yeah. That is pretty clear on sign up. What is often less clear is how Bob will choose to interpret posts as to whether they are in violation of his rules.
> For one thing, I think Dr. Bob is reasonably consistent in his application of the rules, although I don't know about the nitty-gritty details of the bans.
There are cases where he hasn't been (e.g., one poster got a lengthy block for 'sh*t' without an asterisk, another merely got a redirect - which indicates that he saw it). When the inconsistency was pointed out he said something along the lines of leaving the past in the past even though the blocked poster was blocked in the present (and well into the future).
> Plus, you gotta give him that he apparently takes the time to monitor the whole damn forum, which is a pretty large job.
I used to. Because it used to be. Nowdays... The relative lack of posts (and the ability to only check up on those that were reported / or not) makes things a lot easier.
> Or are there different Dr. Bobs? Students getting payed for it and having a laugh over their latest block? Speculation doesn't help us any further.
Paying them... Hmm... Never thought of that. He has trouble finding volunteers...
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