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Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:01:01
We were talking about this last night in chat, and while we don't have all the answers, we are trying to consider the question.
If someone tweets something, it goes to their own twitter webpage, and is distributed to their own followers. I assume that other than celebrities or politicians, twitter followings are very small. If you tweet someone and they really like it, they can retweet it to their friends. It is very specific in where it's sent. Like sending an email to someone with a hotmail account, the email is sent to the recipient, not to everyone at hotmail. Tweets are sent to the twitter account of the person tweeting and to their likely small amount of followers.
Once they are at twitter, can they be searched? Is searching common at twitter?
I can't see tweets going to that many people through the basic tweet process. I can't imagine many babblers would be comfortable about losing their anonymity and would no more tweet babble posts than they would register here under their real name. So other than a few lurkers or a few people who have duplicate twitter accounts, not that many people would want to tweet babble posts.
As far as retweeting, I can't imagine that would be all that likely.
I'm thinking that if someone was reporting a breaking news story from the scene, it could easily be tweeted and retweeted until it was widely distributed. But a babble post?
So would tweeting really increase risk of exposure except if someone who knew the poster was tweeting their posts? I do see other risks, but I'm wondering what the scope likely will be for privacy concerns?
And ditto for facebook.
Would regular users of Facebook and Twitter fill everyone else in on what the actual impact of this is likely to be?
Putting aside all other concerns for the moment and concentrating just on the chance for privacy violations as opposed to google?
Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:03:29
In reply to What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:01:01
This doesn't mean that I would be ok with being linked or twittered. I was just wondering about this part of the issue.
Posted by seldomseen on November 2, 2009, at 9:14:51
In reply to What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:01:01
Personally, I now think the situation - so to speak - is under control.
IMO whenever there is increased exposure, there is increased risk of deductive and or accidental discovery of identity.
So, perhaps the question now becomes, how big is this increased exposure?
IMO, with the new opt-out system, it's been to reduced back to only marginally above what was already present here at babble.
Should we visit the whole privacy of babble issue in its entirety. I suspect we will end up doing just that.
At present however, I'm okay.
Seldom.
Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:42:23
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by seldomseen on November 2, 2009, at 9:14:51
If I understand the concepts well enough, and I don't know if I do, I think *this* aspect of my concerns have been addressed. But I know that others are still upset by the fact that their posts can be reached by clicking on the link.
I thought it might be a good idea to be very specific about what exactly is going on because I know a lot of babblers don't tweet or facebook. Including me.
Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:44:00
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:42:23
Maybe walking through the life of a tweet?
Posted by seldomseen on November 2, 2009, at 10:11:30
In reply to What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:01:01
Okay, I get it. Sometimes I can be so dense.
I just searched twitter with words I knew would show up because Dr. Bob had tweeted them from one of my posts.
This is what showed up on the results page:
psycho_babel: seldomseen: I like the fact that there are no flame wars on babble. http://tiny.dr-bob.org/n43e
7 days ago from web · Reply · View TweetThe link to Dr. bob psychobabble page showed up as well as the link to my post and both were hot clickable links. Clicking on the link to my post *on the search results page (the tiny url)* brought me back to babble.
Clicking the "reply" button did nothing because I'm not a member or whatever. Clicking the "view tweet" link just took me to the tweet.
Evidentally searching is easy on twitter. I don't know about facebook.
FWIW, there were two pages of search results, mine was on the second page.
Seldom.
Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 10:33:41
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by seldomseen on November 2, 2009, at 10:11:30
Dense you are not. :)
More likely I had already thought about it myself, so I left pertinent facts out of my writing because I already knew them.
Ok, so once a tweet is out there, it can be found by search more or less the same way posts are found by google.
Do you think this is what Dr. Bob is going for? Because honestly the impact of direct tweeting seems very small. But if he sees this as one day being something people use like google to find the same information they find on google, it makes more sense that he'd want posts to be the equivalent of googleable.
While I, at least, was more concerned about the use and distribution of my posts than searching on twitter. I don't know if Dr. Bob understands the difference, but it's very clear to me. I'd already agreed to google, so I already accepted that sort of risk.
Posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 10:50:40
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered? » seldomseen, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 10:33:41
Facts about my intent in asking, not facts about the answers. I don't have enough of the latter.
Posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2009, at 11:38:21
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 10:50:40
In my case I do use Facebook and my kids, neighbors are my friends. And jokingly I've told them my posting name on the internet. So for them to see they would speak to me even less than they do. My Son and Daughters have important jobs and to link me to them would be detrimental to them. This world is mine I hope. Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on November 2, 2009, at 12:35:41
In reply to What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 9:01:01
I don't understand how it works since not every babble user has a facebook or twitter account. So surely the posts are just getting re-published to bob's psycho-babble account or psycho-babble page. Maybe I should actually go look and see how it ends up?
Posted by Tabitha on November 2, 2009, at 12:47:08
In reply to Re: What does it mean to be linked or twittered?, posted by Tabitha on November 2, 2009, at 12:35:41
Just read the post by psych chat. I can't believe the facebook/twitter posts end up on the user's personal account, which may not be anonymous. Yikes!
Posted by jane d on November 2, 2009, at 15:19:20
In reply to Re: Whoa! I stand corrected, posted by Tabitha on November 2, 2009, at 12:47:08
> Just read the post by psych chat. I can't believe the facebook/twitter posts end up on the user's personal account, which may not be anonymous. Yikes!
There's been an amazing amount of misinformation posted on this topic so far. I'm glad to see this thread finally addressing some of it. To be clear - only you can post something to your facebook account. Only you can post something to your twitter account. If you don't have an account you get a sign in screen (and an invitation to join). So you can choose to publicize your interest in babble to people who know you or choose not to.
Even if you do link to babble that does not tell people who you are on babble - or even that you are on babble. It just tells them you liked something you read here enough to want them to read it too. But, a good friend who comes here AND who now knows that you come here too is more likely to be able to figure out who you are. More likely than if they found this site on their own when they wouldn't have any idea you were here.
Personally, I would never choose to link to babble on my facebook or twitter accounts if I had any for just that reason. YMMV.
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