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Posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 0:59:33
I wish no Babblers would commit suicide.
I miss pseudoname when I see his posts even though I didn't really know him. I met him. I had breakfast with him. This makes me weary of meeting more Babblers.
Please don't kill yourselves Babblers.
How can we prevent this? I hate this, there probably isn't a way to prevent it.
I don't like this. Help. What to do Bob? Anyone?
:-(
I wish you weren't dead!!!!
Dr. Bob, maybe next Babblefest we should have everyone promise to not kill themselves.
:-(
I hate this!!! :-(
Dr. Bob, pseudoname is dead. You met him too. He's dead now. :-( Do you miss him too?
Isn't it weird he's dead?
Babblers don't kill yourselves! Dr. Bob, how do we stop Babblers from killing themselves?
:-(
No answers.
:-(
(((((Dr. Bob))))) You never die OK?
Deneb*
Posted by adelaide curtis on July 12, 2007, at 8:11:14
In reply to No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 0:59:33
" Dr. Bob, pseudoname is dead. You met him too. He's dead now. :-( Do you miss him too?
Isn't it weird he's dead? "
?
no it is sad..
Posted by Glydin on July 12, 2007, at 8:35:05
In reply to No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 0:59:33
> I wish no Babblers would commit suicide.
>
>~~~ I wish no one posting would threaten or talk of "thinking about" suicide here either.
Posted by Glydin on July 12, 2007, at 8:36:31
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Glydin on July 12, 2007, at 8:35:05
Sorry, I left that off.
Posted by linkadge on July 12, 2007, at 11:14:55
In reply to **Trigger** on my above post, posted by Glydin on July 12, 2007, at 8:36:31
While I don't think "thretening" suicide is going to help anybody, I don't think there is anything wrong with people telling other people that they may feel this way.
Otherwise, people just keep it bottled inside, and that doesn't help anybody.
Linkadge
Posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:40:59
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Glydin on July 12, 2007, at 8:35:05
I want Babblers to talk about thinking of suicide, because then maybe we can help them. If they don't talk about it and just do it no one can help them. If talking about it helps I want them to talk about it. I would rather then talk about it than kill themselves.
I feel bad about writing my post now. I feel attacked.
Posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:59:32
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Glydin, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:40:59
I hate this. I feel put down. I feel slighted. I feel persecuted. I feel rotten.
Now I've turned this thread into about me, I hate this.
I feel misunderstood. I feel bad, upset. I used to write about thinking of suicide. Now I feel bad, guilty, shamed.
Can't people see that I've changed my view on suicide now? Instead of thinking it's an option I don't see it as an option anymore. It hurts people. I'm feeling that hurt now. :-(
I don't want anyone to die.
Posted by dispatcher on July 12, 2007, at 12:01:08
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Glydin, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:40:59
Is this an admin issue? Why are you posting here?
- I think this whole post should be moved ASAP - it doesn't belong here because it is not an administrative issue.
Can someone please move this thread?
Posted by dispatcher on July 12, 2007, at 12:02:25
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:59:32
Posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 12:10:14
In reply to Projective identification? » Deneb, posted by dispatcher on July 12, 2007, at 12:01:08
I don't understand. Why are people getting upset over original post? Now I'm crying. I'm hurt.
Did I do something bad again? I hate this. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I posted it in the wrong spot. Maybe move it to social or something. I'm sorry. I feel so bad and upset now. :-(
I'm sorry.
Posted by adelaide curtis on July 12, 2007, at 12:27:00
In reply to Re: Projective identification?, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 12:10:14
we played right into this... again!
i feel silly
Posted by Deputy Dinah on July 12, 2007, at 13:15:21
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Glydin, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:40:59
> I feel bad about writing my post now. I feel attacked.
Deneb, I statements are difficult, but writing "I feel" is sometimes not enough. "I feel bad when I read the posts to me" is a true I statement. While
I feel attacked" IMO is more problematic since there is more of an implication that someone else did something (I feel attacked *by someone*), which may make them feel accused or put down.Keeping that in mind, could you rephrase the above statement in terms of what you feel yourself, not what you feel others may have done? If you have any questions about your rephrasing, feel free to contact the deputies.
Thanks,
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Deputy Dinah on July 12, 2007, at 13:21:52
In reply to Projective identification? » Deneb, posted by dispatcher on July 12, 2007, at 12:01:08
I see the administrative point of this thread. My reading is that Deneb is concerned with what the site in terms of other posters or Dr. Bob can do to prevent future tragedies.
Dr. Bob, of course, might decide otherwise, but I do not see that this post is not appropriate here, and to keep others from feeling put down (such as feeling they had posted inappropriately) I'm going to ask that you contact the administration about these matters, and not post them on the board.
Dr. Bob may of course consider the matter in a different way.
Adding a trigger warning is perfectly appropriate for a poster to do, and something that can be done if a poster finds a post upsetting.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by Sigismund on July 12, 2007, at 15:59:32
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Glydin, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 11:40:59
Hi Deneb
Isn't it a weird thing?
Someone is here, and then they are not, and we have such a lot of difficulty getting our heads around it.
Why is that?
I'll never understand it.
It seems to me like there is one big mind, and we are all parts of it, just arbitrary cut off parts.
It's all very strange.
Declan
Posted by fayeroe on July 12, 2007, at 19:02:52
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Deneb, posted by Sigismund on July 12, 2007, at 15:59:32
and i thought that administration was about how the site runs....OH!, my bad.
Posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 22:35:56
In reply to No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 0:59:33
Sometimes when I'm feeling bad, it's very easy to misinterpret things. I was very sad about pseudoname and that primed to react badly to everything really. I see now that I wasn't attacked. I just felt it at the time, but that doesn't mean it was true. I feel a lot of things. Sometimes they don't make sense. I think I also use the wrong words to express myself.
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone with my feelings. Someone told me I have changed and I can show it now by reacting differently.
Deneb*
Posted by mike lynch on July 12, 2007, at 23:17:23
In reply to No Babblers commit suicide, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 0:59:33
IT's wierd that people talk to doctor bob when it's obvious he doesen't answer personal posts. It's like one day you're expecting him to respond or something? And in a mental health forum it's inevitable that people will commit suicide, our invtervention isn't going to do much, when they have come to that point - an internet forum just isn't going to prevent it. Remember people are here because they're mentally ill, which is one of the number reasons for suicide.
Posted by Dinah on July 13, 2007, at 0:15:32
In reply to Sorry I took things personally, posted by Deneb on July 12, 2007, at 22:35:56
Posted by Sigismund on July 15, 2007, at 16:15:49
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide, posted by mike lynch on July 12, 2007, at 23:17:23
The more absent the figure, the more significant the relationship....kinda like God.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2007, at 23:57:17
In reply to Please use notification system » dispatcher, posted by Deputy Dinah on July 12, 2007, at 13:21:52
> to keep others from feeling put down (such as feeling they had posted inappropriately) I'm going to ask that you contact the administration about these matters, and not post them on the board.
Thanks for the reminder that that's one of the reasons for the notification button. We've had it for a while now, let's consider it uncivil not to use it from now on.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2007, at 23:57:51
In reply to Re: No Babblers commit suicide » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on July 12, 2007, at 19:02:52
> and i thought that administration was about how the site runs....
Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others (including those who post to Administration) to feel accused or put down, could you please rephrase that? Thanks,
Bob
Posted by fayeroe on July 17, 2007, at 17:29:31
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » fayeroe, posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2007, at 23:57:51
I am sorry that my post was interpeted as putting anyone down who posts on administration.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2007, at 21:00:21
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on July 17, 2007, at 17:29:31
> I am sorry that my post was interpeted as putting anyone down who posts on administration.
Thanks, but is your intent to apologize? If so, could you apologize for something you did instead of for interpreting that someone else did? Thanks,
Bob
Posted by adelaide curtis on July 17, 2007, at 21:57:35
In reply to Re: please rephrase that again » fayeroe, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2007, at 21:00:21
why must you nit pick at so many ?..
do you really think you are being supportive to fay?
Posted by Sigismund on July 18, 2007, at 0:36:05
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on July 17, 2007, at 17:29:31
Oh teacher teacher
Have I learned my lessons well?
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