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Posted by Fivefires on April 16, 2007, at 16:17:45
WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON HERE WHO IS 'AVAILABLE ENOUGH' TO FOLLOW UP THREADS? DO YOU HAVE NO PERSONS APPOINTED FOR THIS PURPOSE?
5f
Posted by 10derHeart on April 16, 2007, at 23:19:56
In reply to TO DR BOB, posted by Fivefires on April 16, 2007, at 16:17:45
How can we help you, Fivefires?
If you could maybe explain your question a little more, I'll try to answer it. Dr. Bob isn't here as much lately, and it's hard to say when he will be or for how long. He is quite busy at this time with IRL things.
If you are asking whether any of the deputies are "appointed" to read certain boards/threads or to any specific duties, the answer is 'no.' We do what we can, when we can, and try our best to coordinate and let each other know if someone isn't feeling up to it, or is too busy IRL, etc. As you know, this is a voluntary "job." Many times our availability and just plain ability to do deputy duties is limited for various reasons.
I think I'm saying I just don't know what "available enough" looks like, exactly.
I didn't understand "to follow up threads??"
Just a reminder to not post anything here on Admin if you're having a specific problem with a poster or post - general things are fine, of course. If this concerns civility issues, remember to use the 'Notify the Administrators' button at the bottom of each post. Thanks :=)
Posted by Fivefires on April 17, 2007, at 3:10:30
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » Fivefires, posted by 10derHeart on April 16, 2007, at 23:19:56
Thanks for response 10derHeart!
You know, this is 'r e a l l i f e ' to me. We shouldn't feel ashamed to say this. When you say Dr. Bob is doing things 'IRL', you are, inadvertently I'm sure, saying he's doing something more important. Pls don't tell me I've misunderstood it's meaning. It's 'our joke on ourselves'. No one from Admin has ever commented or told me 'just because you're communicating online, doesn't mean it's not an IRL experience'. Truly, I'm finding 'our joke on ourselves', hurts a bit.
I'm not saying u shouldn't be a deputy voluntarily, if that sits right with you.
I'm simply saying someone needs to watch over the boards, scan for unanswered posts, check at 2hr intervals for problems, and late eve checks to be sure there isn't someone left alone in crisis.
Maybe this someone could be a psychologist or peer support specialist and be paid for monitoring the boards 24/7.
Afa "to follow up threads", I meant, after someone posts, whatever comes next are follow-ups to that thread. Often times 'no one' or 'a particular someone we all know' fills this role. Both seem wrong.
So again I'm saying there needs to be someone to watch over the boards; someone w/ knowledge and empathy and understanding, such as a peer support specialist.
I know people who have had troubles in their lives like mine, but have pulled through and now work as therapists or such, and now are considered 'normal people', but they have retained the ability to be kind and empathetic. There has to be someone out there who is as kind and thoughtful as we, the so-called mentally ill posters, are.(?) (An interesting take, if I do say so myself.)
Tearing apart what I've said is already making it more confusing.
I have no problems with a specific poster or post. Yes, that's ez enough to express. This process is set in place well. I think it works well enough.
I have a problem w/ there being 'no one to watch over the site' -or- 'to have the posters backs.
The site needs guidance. I need guidance. What could it hurt to give it a try?
I hope someone doesn't say, 'well, if you want an on-site therapist or peer support specialist, you'll have to pay to join babble.' Ouch!
Am I incorrect, or didn't Dr. Bob write a book about the site and doesn't he receive $ for each which is sold.
He could add a chapter and sell another book, and call it 'Online Site Reaches New Level'. Welcome psychologist John Doe to the site.
It's not so far off the wall, is it?
tks, 5f
Posted by kninelover on April 17, 2007, at 8:48:56
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB, posted by Fivefires on April 17, 2007, at 3:10:30
5f...
i am sorry your previous respond was hurtful..i could say "im sorry you felt hurt" but i you were hurt and so the post was hurtful.
i like your idea and it is very much on the wall.
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Posted by Racer on April 17, 2007, at 14:22:49
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB, posted by kninelover on April 17, 2007, at 8:48:56
> 5f...
> i am sorry your previous respond was hurtful..i could say "im sorry you felt hurt" but i you were hurt and so the post was hurtful.
>Please don't post anything which could lead another poster to feel accused or put down -- even if that other poster is a deputy on this site.
10derheart was trying to be helpful, by explaining that Dr Bob has been away lately, and by asking for some clarification about what the original poster meant. I'm very sorry if there was some misunderstanding between the original poster and 10derheart, but I think it important to honor her effort.
If you have any questions regarding civility, please check the FAQ, at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil.
If you would like more information regarding deputies, please read the FAQ at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#deputies.
Thank you,
Racer, acting as deputy for Dr Bob
Posted by zazenduckie on April 17, 2007, at 14:55:22
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB, posted by kninelover on April 17, 2007, at 8:48:56
thanks for validating and supporting others
Appreciate and honour your honesty and your sensitivity
:)
> 5f...
> i am sorry your previous respond was hurtful..i could say "im sorry you felt hurt" but i you were hurt and so the post was hurtful.
> i like your idea and it is very much on the wall.
> †
Posted by sdb on April 17, 2007, at 20:09:10
In reply to TO DR BOB, posted by Fivefires on April 16, 2007, at 16:17:45
a. Probably Bob has cloned himself. His mignon/mignonne (?) double seen on the picture is not yet able to reach the keyboard.
b. He had a lot to do with paying taxes.
c. He has a somatic problem e.g. an atopic allergic reaction due to spring pollen from plants.
d. He is now participating in p-babble with an anonymous name.
Everything above can be right or false. One, two or three options above can be right thus it doesn't make sense to speculate.
I wish Bob and everybody well. There is no need for panic.
warm regards
sdb
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 18, 2007, at 12:02:43
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB, posted by Fivefires on April 17, 2007, at 3:10:30
Out of interest (as this has come up elsewhere for me recently), would you be willing to pay t use this site in order to pay the salary of 24/7 admin?
And, I will agree, "online" is a part of my real life.. but, I will also say there are things that do have more importance and thus have to come first - such as my family and my wage paying job.
Nikki
Posted by Fivefires on April 18, 2007, at 15:59:58
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » Fivefires, posted by NikkiT2 on April 18, 2007, at 12:02:43
To pay? Is this the reason there can be no board monitors?
I'll bet it won't be long in our future one will be able to join 24/7 online support for a price.
But, I'm supposing 'there may even be laws precluding this' at this time.
I guess, for now, it's just babble, just a psychobabbler's pipe dream.
I understand the deputies' positions wouldn't allow them time to look for lonely posts.
As for myself, aside from a behavioral health problem, I've a physical health problem which precludes me from sitting here long hours.
If not for this reason, I'd volunteer, let's see, mayB a 4hr shift a day.
But, I have no education in psychology, minimal in healthcare, certainly none in theology, or other board topics, which I'm supposing would be a necessity.
I felt my needs and feelings, and maybe others, weren't being addressed. I'm sorry if any fellow babblers felt attacked or somehow responsible. This was not my intent 'at all'.
I apologize for using foul language on any of the boards, as I think it conveyed anger,
and, moreover, what I was feeling was loneliness and distress about some of these issues I've mentioned,
as well as some issues in my private life.
canIgetbackintheboatnow? 5f
Posted by Fivefires on April 18, 2007, at 16:05:44
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB, posted by kninelover on April 17, 2007, at 8:48:56
Which post are you referring to kninelover?
I don't understand how it hurt you.
Could you please tell me so I'll understand and not hurt another in the same way?
5f
Posted by Fivefires on April 18, 2007, at 16:24:12
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » Fivefires, posted by NikkiT2 on April 18, 2007, at 12:02:43
Maybe.
5f
Posted by kninelover on April 18, 2007, at 17:16:49
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » kninelover, posted by Fivefires on April 18, 2007, at 16:05:44
i was not hurt 5f...i was validating your feelings..
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Posted by 10derHeart on April 18, 2007, at 17:27:02
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » kninelover, posted by Fivefires on April 18, 2007, at 16:05:44
Fivefires,
It was my understanding and interpretation - and Racer's as well - that kninelover was referring to *my* post to *you.* This is why Racer issued a PBC in this thread.
If this was not the case, I - in both roles as a deputy and a poster - would be interested in knowing where the misunderstanding happened. If there is a possibility the PBC was issue based on a misunderstanding, that's very important to find out.
And FF, I was surprised to see I'd perhaps caused a problem by using the acronym "IRL." I used it purely, and *only* to separate what Dr. Bob (or anyone) does offline, from what they do/say online. That's it - no more. Now you've got me thinking about it (and thank you, BTW) it is kind of an unnecessary term - this "IRL." Just a habit, I guess. It's all very REAL to me! I absolutely do consider this real life. Most of my best friends are here - whether they know it or not :-)
I felt bewildered by the things you wrote about importance. All I know is you mentioned feeling hurt, after I posted to you, and so I am truly sorry. I did not mean to hurt you or trigger hurt by saying 'IRL.' I have felt bad ever since and didn't know what to say to you.
Believe me, I would never presume to decide what Dr. Bob's priorities are, or what things he does in his life are more important than other things. I haven't any idea, really. I don't know him that well or in that way. That might be a good question to ask him when he is here.
I also think your ideas about Babble are completely valid, and that others probably wonder similar things, too. They are not off the wall, IMO. I hope Dr. Bob reads this thread and it opens a discussion with posters about what you brought up regarding different ways to administer the Babble community. You are a member and it is important to you, so therefore, it is important, period.
Posted by kninelover on April 18, 2007, at 19:07:58
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » Fivefires, posted by 10derHeart on April 18, 2007, at 17:27:02
ty for posting that†
Posted by Fivefires on April 19, 2007, at 0:55:50
In reply to Re: TO DR BOB » Fivefires, posted by 10derHeart on April 18, 2007, at 17:27:02
Hi 10derHeart. Tks for posting.
> Fivefires,
>
> It was my understanding and interpretation - and Racer's as well - that kninelover was referring to *my* post to *you.* This is why Racer issued a PBC in this thread.
>
> If this was not the case, I - in both roles as a deputy and a poster - would be interested in knowing where the misunderstanding happened. If there is a possibility the PBC was issue based on a misunderstanding, that's very important to find out. >
>
Well I was confused as well; didn't know who received the PBC.> And FF, I was surprised to see I'd perhaps caused a problem by using the acronym "IRL." I used it purely, and *only* to separate what Dr. Bob (or anyone) does offline, from what they do/say online. That's it - no more. Now you've got me thinking about it (and thank you, BTW) it is kind of an unnecessary term - this "IRL." Just a habit, I guess. It's all very REAL to me! I absolutely do consider this real life. Most of my best friends are here - whether they know it or not :-)>
>Well I'm sorry if u felt jumped on for saying the acronym we all say. I heard it and it really fit w/ how I was feeling.
My best friend IRL is here. I don't want to feel like a babbling idiot for saying this.
I don't want any1 to be ashamed to say they spend their real life here as much as possible, if that is their choice.
I have a person in my life who puts me down for being online or staying in the house too much. I don't wish to feel ashamed for the way I live.
If any1 is interested about what I do here online or in my home, they can knock on my door or the back of my head, ask me, and I might or might not tell them.
I don't have a lot going on IRL right now.
See; I just put myself & the site down .. you think .. you see?
OR, what we can do, is look at it from a diff' point of view, and say we have a lot going on in real life right now.
For me, from this point forward, sitting here spending time on the site will be nothing to ashamed of. Let the peeps who wonder be intrigued.
The acronym in a statement about Dr. Bob made me wonder about him. Where was he? I wish he would tell us he feels we are every bit as important as his patients in his life.
There are "normal" (Just so you know; bein' sarcastic.) peeps who make fun of this site.
I feel I have to quickly change screens and hide what I'd doing here. Well, that's ok if it's for my privacy, but I need to stop doing it because I am ashamed.
Soooo, I want this site to be the best it can be so I will feel very good about sitting here.
Maybe I need a really good therapist to talk with this. Maybe I'm confused? Am I just barking up a tree w/ nothing in it? Can being a part of this online community be something of which to be proud of having in my life?
My P wants me to stay offline. What message is that sending me?
My therapist wouldn't be too happy to learn that I spend a lot of time here. What message is that sending me?
The prior is a great topic for discussion. It's soooo important to me, I'd like to hear from Doctor Bob about it as well.
IS THIS GOOD FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH DR. BOB?
> I felt bewildered by the things you wrote about importance. All I know is you mentioned feeling hurt, after I posted to you, and so I am truly sorry.>
>I was glad to see you respond, as a deputy, and as a peep in a discussion. U didn't say anything to prompt me to do anything. I assume responsibility for my big mouth.
I just took a quick look down social and then glanced @ a few boards and saw some things which bothered me. I think the most important thing was 'lack of support' in some areas.
>
I did not mean to hurt you or trigger hurt by saying 'IRL.' I have felt bad ever since and didn't know what to say to you.
>Hey, I abbreviate all over the place and that's really all you were doing. It's the eponym we all use.
I just want us to be proud of ourselves whether we're out volunteering all over town -or- having a discussion w/ a peer here on this site.
>
> Believe me, I would never presume to decide what Dr. Bob's priorities are, or what things he does in his life are more important than other things. I haven't any idea, really. I don't know him that well or in that way. That might be a good question to ask him when he is here.
>I have no idea how Dr. Bob feels about us. I may have already done so above, but, ...
WHERE 'ARE WE' AND 'THIS SITE' WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR PRIORITIES DR. BOB?
(Hope u don't mind me throwing this in our conversation 10H or any1 else.)
>
> I also think your ideas about Babble are completely valid, and that others probably wonder similar things, too. They are not off the wall, IMO. I hope Dr. Bob reads this thread and it opens a discussion with posters about what you brought up regarding different ways to administer the Babble community. You are a member and it is important to you, so therefore, it is important, period.>
>I just wish to feel proud to be a part of this site. I've got enough people around me who tend to push my 'I'm ashamed' button. I can't allow being here to cause me shame.
Sorry late to respond, but I've been physically ill and in bed.
5f
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