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Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 7:09:17
Dinah,
You wrote,[...my deputy function...].
In the FAQ, the deputy's function is stated. We discussed deleting a post as to the function of the deputy and I am not sure as to if you are saying that you do not think that the post in question is grossly inappropriate or if you are saying that Dr. Bob has in someway instructed you to not delete posts that have the potential to arrouse, IMO, antisemitic feelings. I am not asking you to go back and consider deleting the post in question, for we have agreed that you will not for one reason or another. What I am requesting now is if you could clarify in relation to the written FAQ functions of the deputy if the following post is something within your function or not?
The poster offers a link and in that link there is verse #19 which reads,[...no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom, therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood...].
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20041120/msgs/437229.html
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 7:31:58
In reply to Lou's request to Dinah as deputy for clarification, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 7:09:17
Lou.
Dr. Bob has clearly stated that the deputy function is an emergency one for escalating situations. It does NOT apply to situations where he has already gone over the board. It does NOT apply to situations where he has made similar rulings that a type of post is ok by his standards. It does NOT mean that I can independently apply the civility standards to my liking rather than his. It is an extremely *limited* function.
Even if someone were to insult you directly, or another poster directly, it wouldn't fall under deputy guidelines unless it was an escalating situation, defined as at least an uncivil post and an uncivil reply or more than one uncivil posts by the same poster. Even then, it would have to be posts that are such a type as have been deemed uncivil by Dr. Bob in the past.
Since Dr. Bob has clearly and definitively let stand posts with a link to something that is not considered uncivil under the rules of the board, but that do have material that you consider objectionable somewhere within the material linked, but not the direct link, I am not about to override his judgement.
If you have a problem with that policy, please take it up with Dr. Bob as it is not part of the very limited deputy function as I described above.
Were I to so grossly overstep my bounds as to sanction something that Dr. Bob found ok, not only would he reverse my decision, but he would have every reason to rightly remove me as deputy. And I'd be the first to agree with that decision.
I'm sorry if you don't understand my position. I've explained as clearly as I can.
If Dr. Bob believes that my understanding of deputy guidelines are incorrect, I'm sure he'll feel free to correct me.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 8:09:49
In reply to Re: Lou's request to Dinah as deputy for clarification » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 7:31:58
Dinah,
You wrote many things that could have the potential for one to think that it is not your function as a deputy to address the post in question which was what I had requested clarification for.
Thank you for clarifying your function as a deputy.
Lou PIlder
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 8:11:58
In reply to Lou's request to Dinah as deputy for clarification » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 8:09:49
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 9:38:26
In reply to Lou's request to Dinah as deputy for clarification, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 7:09:17
Dinah,
I have reread your reply to me and perhaps there is a misunderstanding.
You wrote,[...Since Dr..let stand posts with a link to something that is not considered uncivil...,but ...have material that you consider objectionable somewhere within the material linked, but not the direct link, I am not about to overide his judgment...].
In the post in question, [...nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood...], it is my opinion that Dr. Hsiung has considered posts that have the potential to put down those of other faiths to be uncivil. If the question is if the statement in question is uncivil here, I believe that there is the potential ,IMO, for one to think that the post in question says that {save it be those} and {nothing entereth} are phrases similar to ones that Dr. Hsiung has considered to fall in the catagory of statements that have the potential to put down those of other faiths.
As far as your writing, [..not the direct link...],if you are referring to the post in question above in this post, I believe that we may have a misunderstanding because the statement in question is in the direct link.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 9:51:14
In reply to Lou's misunderstanding of what Dinah wrote to Lou » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 9:38:26
Lou, I know Dr. Bob has been on the board since you brought this matter up. If he hasn't done anything, I'm certainly not going to.
I know this is important to you, but appealing to me rather than Dr. Bob is not going to do you any good. You'd be better off talking to him about this.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 10:07:59
In reply to Re: Lou's misunderstanding of what Dinah wrote to Lou » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 9:51:14
Dinah,
You wrote,[...If he hasn't...I'm...not...].
If you do not want to address the post in question, for any reason, then I will accept that. I am not asking you to address the post, but was attempting to clear up what I think is a misunderstanding between us and reasonable people do have misunderstandings and they can IMO be cleared up.
You also wrote,[...I know this is important to you...]. Thank you for your consideration of my feelings here.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2005, at 20:11:50
In reply to Lou's reply to Dinah » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2005, at 10:07:59
This is the end of the thread.
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