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Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 7:48:22
Dr. Hsiung,
In the opening page of the faith board,under the link {guidlines and exceptions} you write that I wrote,[...my faith is founded on that I should have one God and no others before Him...].
Then at the end of that link you write,[...If the foundation of a faith puts down those of other faiths ...not supportive...rather it was discussed elseware...].
Are you sayng , then, that the foundation of jewdaism puts down those of other faiths? If you could clarify this, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 9:26:15
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-foundjwdsm, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 7:48:22
Dr. Hsiung,
In relation to your expected reply, I am requesting that you consider the following in your reply to me.
If your reply is that the foundation of Jewdaism does not put down those of other faiths, then could you revise the opening page of the faith board to reflect that by taking out your last statement that could, IMO, have the potential to have someone think that you are saying that?
If you are saying that the foundation of jewdaism does put down those of other faiths, then could you clarify if the foundation of Christiandom, or various branches of it, does not put down those of other faiths such as the post that write that [...God so loved the world that He sent His only begotton Son so that whoso believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life...]. This statement does not say that others must believe in that to have everlasting life. If you are going to have in your reply to me that because my God has a commandment to me that I shall have no other Gods before Him, and you are going to say that tht means that others must not have any other God before them, could you clarify why the christiandom statement is different from my statement? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou PIlder
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 12, 2004, at 9:53:58
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-foundjwdsm, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 7:48:22
Due to your []'s, I'm not sure if you're partaphrasing your words, but ",[...my faith is founded on that I should have one God and no others before Him...]." if those are the words used, then I see no problem with them. I don't agree with the "one God" idea, but saying that its what you believe isn't offensive in my eyes.
What I would find offensive is if you said "My faith is founded on that *everyone* should have one God and no others", as to me that would be saying that I should follow your faith, or be wrong. But saying that YOU only want one God is fine. Under the rules of the site, in my uunderstanding, you're allowed to say what you said as it was an "I" statement.
But the rules are pretty hard to fathom sometimes *l*
Nikki
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 10:10:57
In reply to Re: Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-foundjwdsm » Lou Pilder, posted by NikkiT2 on December 12, 2004, at 9:53:58
NikkiT2,
You wrote,[...if those are the words used...].
This is on the opening page and its links to the faith board. Thay are the words in the post in question.
This is what others see when they look at the opening page of the faith board and click on the offered links.
You wrote,[...I see no problem with them...].
That is why I am requesting for Dr. Hsiung to revise the opening page and its links to the faith board, for I feel that IMO, one could read the links and have the potential to think, IMO, that the foundation of my faith puts down those of other faiths and you write [..but saying that YOU only want one God is fine...]. I agree with you.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 10:38:32
In reply to Lou's reply to NikkiT2 » NikkiT2, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 10:10:57
NikkiT2,
You wrote about an 'I" statement. The link by Dr. Hsiung writes that[...if the {foundation} of a faith puts down those of other faiths...not supportive...discussed elseware..].
I believe that Dr. Hsiung's statement has the potential for some to consider thinking that it does not matter if someone belives it or not as to it being that the foundation puts down those of other faiths. For instance, one IMO could not post [...no one comes to the Father except by me...], even if they believed it. Nor, IMO, could they post that the jews are not saved because they do not honor Jesus as God, even if the poster writes that they belive that.
This is another reason why I am requesting that Dr. Hsiung revise the opening page and its links on the faith board.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 15:20:03
In reply to Lou's reply to NikkiT2 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 10:38:32
Dr. Hsiung,
You have a post on the faith board that I wrote that I had asked if I could say,[...the Rider said to me, "You shall have no other Gods before me."...]
You wrote,[...to say that one belief should be embraced is to say that others should not...].
But it says the {the Rider [said to me], not that I am saying that others are to have my God or that the Rider is telling others that. There could be other Gods that other people have and I am not saying that there is not. There are posters here that have Jesus as their God.
You wrote,[...I think it is more civil not to tell others what to believe...]. Are you saying that I am telling others what to believe? If so, could you verify that, and I will then have the opportunity to respond accordingly. There are christian posters here and are they are telling me what to believe?
There are posts here that post statements that have the potential to put down other faiths and also posts for that IMO have the potential for one to consider that the statement is saying that the jews killed Christ and have done so without being evicted from this forum. Could you clarify why this is as it is when others are evicted for using a word that is the name of a donkey even in referrence to themselves?
Lou Pilder
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