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Posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 8:07:27
I posted something to him but I have no idea about the rules for not posting to someone. Does that request for me not to post last a lifetime? If so I am sorry I broke it and posted. If not then good because I posted to him. If someone asks for another not to post...does that have to be restated sometime like a no trespass order. You have to get them renewed yearly. I am confused. Please help.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 10:51:26
In reply to Can I ever post to Larry Hoover again?, posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 8:07:27
Where are the rules? I know there must be some somewhere. I just can't find them.
It's clear that if you get blocked from the site it starts with 1 week, then goes up but if you are blocked from posting to a person....does this work differently?
Confused
Posted by Dinah on March 12, 2004, at 10:59:09
In reply to Can I ever post to Larry Hoover again?, posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 8:07:27
Not unless he lifts the request. There's no time limit. And all blocking works the same. First one week, then doubled or tripled thereafter depending on the nature of the violation.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 12:08:52
In reply to Re: No, you can't » Jai Narayan, posted by Dinah on March 12, 2004, at 10:59:09
> Not unless he lifts the request. There's no time limit. And all blocking works the same. First one week, then doubled or tripled thereafter depending on the nature of the violation.
*Then I have made a grave error. I had posted before I even thought about all this. What do I do now?
So this is for life?
I know ignorance is no excuse....
Where are these rules written? I couldn't find them.
Dinah thanks for responding to my information request.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 14, 2004, at 8:57:06
In reply to Re: No, you can't, posted by Jai Narayan on March 12, 2004, at 12:08:52
> I had posted before I even thought about all this. What do I do now?
> Where are these rules written? I couldn't find them.I'm not sure there's much to be done now, it's kind of up to Larry what happens next.
The rules were in various posts here, but I think it makes sense to add a section to the FAQ, so I've done that:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#harassed
If anyone has any questions, comments, or suggestions, I'd be interested. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 14, 2004, at 19:17:53
In reply to Re: feeling harassed, posted by Dr. Bob on March 14, 2004, at 8:57:06
> I'm not sure there's much to be done now, it's kind of up to Larry what happens next.
>
*So I just hang here twisting in the wind. It's a nail biter....do I have to wait for years? Is there a time limit? What if he doesn't come back for years? What is the punishment for this offense? A week? all my life? Okay I feel like I'm on death row....
I am going over the top with this.
It just gets me a little nervous....a teeny weeny intsy bintzy nervous.
I will try to meditate on this. I said try.
> The rules were in various posts here, but I think it makes sense to add a section to the FAQ, so I've done that:*thanks so much for being clear about this, I appreciate overt rules. It's all out in the open and the punishment is clear.
What is the punishment?> If anyone has any questions, comments, or suggestions, I'd be interested. Thanks,
*this reminds me of sitting in the dentist's chair and waiting for a good drilling.....without novocaine!
Jai Narayan
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 15, 2004, at 4:22:17
In reply to Dr. Bob thanks for posting the information onFAQ, posted by Jai Narayan on March 14, 2004, at 19:17:53
> do I have to wait for years? Is there a time limit? What if he doesn't come back for years? What is the punishment for this offense? A week?
I wasn't thinking there would be a time limit... If you haven't been blocked before, it would be for a week.
Bob
Posted by jane d on March 15, 2004, at 17:18:57
In reply to Re: waiting » Jai Narayan, posted by Dr. Bob on March 15, 2004, at 4:22:17
> > do I have to wait for years? Is there a time limit? What if he doesn't come back for years? What is the punishment for this offense? A week?
>
> I wasn't thinking there would be a time limit... If you haven't been blocked before, it would be for a week.
>
> BobBob,
It might make sense to have the request expire at some point. Maybe 3 or 6 months. You could even let the request be renewed. Everything else here has a time limit so why not this?
Jane
Posted by Dinah on March 15, 2004, at 18:10:57
In reply to Re: Time limits on do not post to me » Dr. Bob, posted by jane d on March 15, 2004, at 17:18:57
It's hard enough to figure out who should or shouldn't be posting to whoever now. :) I think time limits would just make it more confusing for everyone. Although fortunately it happens less than I had feared. When it first started, I figured I'd need a chart to figure out who didn't want me to post to them.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 15, 2004, at 21:26:12
In reply to Re: Time limits on do not post to me » Dr. Bob, posted by jane d on March 15, 2004, at 17:18:57
thank you JaneD that makes sense. Limits...yes why not?
Thank you for your input.
Posted by gabbix2 on March 15, 2004, at 22:04:31
In reply to Re: Time limits on do not post to me, posted by Jai Narayan on March 15, 2004, at 21:26:12
I agree with Dinah on the time limits, I think it would be very confusing. Also because it's not always obvious what the reasons are for the "do not Post to me" it might make the person who has to keep renewing the request look like the bad guy.
Also wouldn't it be uncomfortable to both people to have the situation constantly being drawn attention to by having it reposted on the admin board every few months?It's pretty easy to post a retraction of a the request and safe to assume that if someone doesn't do this that they would prefer that it stay the way it is. That's what I would think anyway.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 7:18:10
In reply to Re: Time limits on do not post to me, posted by gabbix2 on March 15, 2004, at 22:04:31
In the of the USA the law states that a restraining order has to be renewed, as well as, a "no tresspass". Both of those are issued for intense reasons but the law recognizes that change can occure. If it's complicated have a permanet date be the renew date. Have the do not post end on New Years Eve, the last day of the year. Sign up on New Years Day. Keep it simple.
Posted by NotAddicted on March 16, 2004, at 8:17:56
In reply to what about this?, posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 7:18:10
I think requests should be respected and followed until the requesting party retracts the request.
In a public forum, it stands as a safeguard and it not generally requested lightly and without true thought given to the request.
If there are difficulties between posters, attempting to work them out is fine, but that doesn't always work.
It's a matter of respecting another's boundries.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 8:38:11
In reply to Do not post requests, posted by NotAddicted on March 16, 2004, at 8:17:56
> I think requests should be respected and followed until the requesting party retracts the request.
>
> In a public forum, it stands as a safeguard and it not generally requested lightly and without true thought given to the request.
>
> If there are difficulties between posters, attempting to work them out is fine, but that doesn't always work.
>
> It's a matter of respecting another's boundries.* I agree with the fact that it's to protect another's boundries. That's not my question.
The time limit is the question for me.
Everything here on PB has a time limit and in keeping with that I was questioning the endless foreverness of this one rule.
Posted by NotAddicted on March 16, 2004, at 8:58:23
In reply to forever and ever seems like a long time, posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 8:38:11
I still believe it is up the the requestor to make the decision... they made the decision in the first place, not the Adm. of this board, such as is done in cases of violations of board policies that cause warnings and blocks.
If there is no retraction, then the request should still stand valid... that's just what I believe is just in these cases.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 9:35:52
In reply to Re: forever and ever seems like a long time » Jai Narayan, posted by NotAddicted on March 16, 2004, at 8:58:23
What is the process of change on PB?
Do people weigh in and state their beliefs, needs, desires and then Dr. B looks at all the statements and makes a decision?
Or is there already a decision and it doesn't change?
If I present a pretty good case for a change then it will be considered?
Is the process for change posted somewhere?
Where is the rebuttal process? Is there one?
Posted by gabbix2 on March 16, 2004, at 15:13:41
In reply to forever and ever seems like a long time, posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 8:38:11
From a pragmatic viewpoint I know if I'd asked someone not to post to me because I felt my boundaries were not being respected, and then saw this person trying to limit the time I could enforce my "Do not Post Request"
I would be more likely than ever to make sure I had the rule firmly established.
Posted by sienna on March 16, 2004, at 17:31:29
In reply to Re: forever and ever seems like a long time » Jai Narayan, posted by gabbix2 on March 16, 2004, at 15:13:41
I agree with gabbix2.
If someone has requested to not be posted to, i think their request should stand. And I too would not feel good about someone trying to circumvent my request.Sienna
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 17:52:55
In reply to Re: forever and ever seems like a long time » Jai Narayan, posted by gabbix2 on March 16, 2004, at 15:13:41
> From a pragmatic viewpoint I know if I'd asked someone not to post to me because I felt my boundaries were not being respected, and then saw this person trying to limit the time I could enforce my "Do not Post Request"
> I would be more likely than ever to make sure I had the rule firmly established.*Thanks for the feedback.
I will never post to Larry again.The only way we will ever communicate is if he so wishes.
So I think you can rest assured that I am not asking so that I can post to him.
I just thought that forever was a long time.
Posted by shar on March 16, 2004, at 23:07:42
In reply to Respect » gabbix2, posted by sienna on March 16, 2004, at 17:31:29
I agree also.
But, I realized something while reading this thread. Someone told me not to post to them a very long time ago. Since then, I have forgotten who it was (their name). I forget everything these days.
I think I'd remember the name if I saw it again, though, and not post to that person.
It's sort of funny to me. Don't remind me if anyone knows, I'd like to see if I can come up with the name myself.
:)
Shar
> I agree with gabbix2.
> If someone has requested to not be posted to, i think their request should stand. And I too would not feel good about someone trying to circumvent my request.
>
> Sienna
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 16, 2004, at 23:31:05
In reply to Dr. Bob how do things get changed on PB?, posted by Jai Narayan on March 16, 2004, at 9:35:52
> Do people weigh in and state their beliefs, needs, desires and then Dr. B looks at all the statements and makes a decision?
> Or is there already a decision and it doesn't change?
> If I present a pretty good case for a change then it will be considered?People continually state their beliefs, etc., and I continually review the policies.
I consider all cases, pretty good or not. :-)
Bob
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