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Posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:26:10
In reply to Lou's response to zenhussy's post-DFM, posted by Lou Pilder on August 19, 2003, at 15:44:31
> zenhussy,
> You wrote,[...I hate to see anyone run off because of lack of control shown by others...].
> Could you identify who the "others" are that you are referring to in your post here? If you could, then I could respond accordingly.
> Could you also clarify what it is that you constitute the "lack of control" means in your post here? If you could, then I could respond accordingly.
> You see, I consider posts like yours to arrouse ill-will toward others and without you identifying who the posters are that you are referring to, anyone that is involved in the thread(s) in question could think that you are referring to them. Also, without identifying what you mean by "lack of control shown by others", your post has the potential to be considered defaming to those in the thread and we do not know which ones you are referring to. Am I one of "the others"?.
> I am participating in a discussion group that has an administrative board that is used to discuss changes in the mental health community and being a discussant here could mean that you are referring to me as one of those that "shows lack of control". If you are referring to me as one of the others that show lack of control, I consider your statement to constitute defamation toward me. And if that is the case, please do not defame me anymore, even if the moderator here allows your type of posts here.
> Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:30:08
In reply to Lou's response to zenhussy's post « Lou Pilder, posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:26:10
Re: Redirect: identifying who the posters are
Posted by paxvox on August 19, 2003, at 18:32:24
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030818/msgs/252273.html
OK, I can't sit back and watch this happen again. Zen has the perfect right to NOT have to respond to inquiries from third parties to whom her posts are not directed. If a third party wishes to join a conversation, then that content should be productive,not pervasive or invasive. Dr. Bob, we have run this race before, why must you allow it to cause a whole lot of blockings before it's all said and done? You CLEARLY know who is the instigator in these issues, and you also know that the rest of us have a right to NOT respond to intrusive inquisitions by that party. I'm sorry, but if you allow this to happen again, I'm afraid that I will have to take corrective action of my own with the U of C.
PAX
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thank you (nm) » paxvox
Posted by zenhussy on August 19, 2003, at 18:41:00
In reply to Re: Redirect: identifying who the posters are, posted by paxvox on August 19, 2003, at 18:32:24
Posted by zenhussy on August 19, 2003, at 20:51:05
In reply to Lou's response to zenhussy's post « Lou Pilder, posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:26:10
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030818/msgs/252216.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030818/msgs/252225.html
If you are going to move posts about please do so in an orderly fashion and remove the above posts from PSB so that they can be here on PBA where you have deemed them to belong.
Consistency dear Doctor. Please.
zh
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:51:36
In reply to Redirected: identifying who the posters are, posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:30:08
> Zen has the perfect right to NOT have to respond to inquiries from third parties to whom her posts are not directed... Dr. Bob, we have run this race before, why must you allow it to cause a whole lot of blockings before it's all said and done?
Did I say anyone was obligated to respond to inquiries?
Why must I allow something to cause people to be blocked? Uncivil posts cause people to be blocked. Are you asking why I allow uncivil posts?
Bob
Posted by zenhussy on August 19, 2003, at 20:56:50
In reply to Re: responding to inquiries, posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:51:36
Pax--->> Zen has the perfect right to NOT have to respond to inquiries from third parties to whom her posts are not directed... Dr. Bob, we have run this race before, why must you allow it to cause a whole lot of blockings before it's all said and done?
Dr. Bob--> Did I say anyone was obligated to respond to inquiries?Well Dr. Bob, one must respond to an inquiry from another poster if one wants that poster to no longer post to them. Therefore a response is required at times. Obligatory, no. Required to maintain civility, yes.
Dr. Bob--> Why must I allow something to cause people to be blocked? Uncivil posts cause people to be blocked. Are you asking why I allow uncivil posts?This is eerily like your reference to Star Trek for admin policies. Again I ask, are you serious when you ask Pax this Dr. Bob???
zh
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 22:53:02
In reply to Re: responding to inquiries » Dr. Bob, posted by zenhussy on August 19, 2003, at 20:56:50
> If you are going to move posts about please do so in an orderly fashion and remove the above posts from PSB so that they can be here on PBA where you have deemed them to belong.
I did do it in an orderly fashion, I moved the ones after my redirect. It's OK with me if the earlier ones stay there. For an earlier discussion of moving posts, see:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030808/msgs/250534.html
> > Why must I allow something to cause people to be blocked? Uncivil posts cause people to be blocked. Are you asking why I allow uncivil posts?
>
> are you serious when you ask Pax this Dr. Bob???It's rhetorical, maybe, but the point I'm making is serious, yes.
Bob
Posted by Simcha on August 24, 2003, at 1:51:29
In reply to Redirected: identifying who the posters are, posted by Dr. Bob on August 19, 2003, at 20:30:08
Pax,
I'm concerned with all of the legal wrangling that has gone on lately here in Admin. I'm not sure what jurisdiction the U of C would have over Dr. Bob or even if they would wish to get involved in this site. As I understand it, Dr. Bob has had his own way of doing things. I disagree with the way he has handled this entire situation with Lou Pilder, except of course banning Lou.
I'm not sure what jurisdiction would be responsible for regulating a personal site set up by Dr. Bob. I doubt very much that all these threats of legal action does anything to change the way that Dr. Bob runs this site. If anyone does actually serve Dr. Bob with a subpeona I would be very surprised. This would be an interesting legal case. Like I said I don't know what jurisdiction anyone would appeal to in order to serve an actual subpeona to Dr. Bob.
Even if you all succeed in prosecuting Dr. Bob I'm not sure it would do much good.
Well, my 2 cents,
Simcha> Re: Redirect: identifying who the posters are
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> Posted by paxvox on August 19, 2003, at 18:32:24
>
> In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030818/msgs/252273.html
>
> OK, I can't sit back and watch this happen again. Zen has the perfect right to NOT have to respond to inquiries from third parties to whom her posts are not directed. If a third party wishes to join a conversation, then that content should be productive,not pervasive or invasive. Dr. Bob, we have run this race before, why must you allow it to cause a whole lot of blockings before it's all said and done? You CLEARLY know who is the instigator in these issues, and you also know that the rest of us have a right to NOT respond to intrusive inquisitions by that party. I'm sorry, but if you allow this to happen again, I'm afraid that I will have to take corrective action of my own with the U of C.
>
> PAX
>
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>
> thank you (nm) » paxvox
>
> Posted by zenhussy on August 19, 2003, at 18:41:00
>
> In reply to Re: Redirect: identifying who the posters are, posted by paxvox on August 19, 2003, at 18:32:24
This is the end of the thread.
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