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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 19:54:40
Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont » Dr. Bob
Posted by Daphnis on July 24, 2003, at 22:20:06
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/244991.html
Oh, woops! but how does one sort that out, really? I mean, I am thinking about whether or not to pursue the Effexor thing, and exploring all this new stuff, and people who have experience. and I don't WANT to go off somewhere else...The medication issue is behind it all. (Sorry to be contrary.
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Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont
Posted by Yankeegirl on July 24, 2003, at 22:29:14
In reply to Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont » Dr. Bob, posted by Daphnis on July 24, 2003, at 22:20:06
> Oh, woops! but how does one sort that out, really? I mean, I am thinking about whether or not to pursue the Effexor thing, and exploring all this new stuff, and people who have experience. and I don't WANT to go off somewhere else...The medication issue is behind it all. (Sorry to be contrary.
Daphnis, I agree with you. And Dr. Bob, other posters are talking about their issues. Why was my post deleted? Do you want ALL of us to go to the other site to talk about the reasons we are taking Effexor??? Yankeegirl
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Re: Redirect: » Yankeegirl
Posted by Daphnis on July 24, 2003, at 22:48:39
In reply to Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont, posted by Yankeegirl on July 24, 2003, at 22:29:14
this is sort of amusing, the title and all... Other posters are totally talking issues and giving support, talking about their days, their moods, their pasts and their feelings... I think I did read your long post somewhere, tacked onto the end of a letter., another post. Maybe it was a computer glitch? I guess not, with the "redirect" label and all.
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to Daph, merc, Kim, Willie, Cher, Susy, et al. and » Yankeegirl
Posted by zinya on July 24, 2003, at 23:45:40
In reply to Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont, posted by Yankeegirl on July 24, 2003, at 22:29:14
I just got to these posts and i TOTALLY agree with you. Separating out Effexor issues from social issues and compartmentalizing just won't work. I say mush on. We're doing fine.
(and you thought *you* were contrarian! :))Yg, are you sure it was deleted? At least once, i forget to hit the second 'submit' that says "confirm" ... Try paging back to see if you can find it and try again?
hugs,
zinya--
Re: to Daph, merc, Kim, Willie, Cher, Susy, et al. and
Posted by Yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 1:23:40
In reply to to Daph, merc, Kim, Willie, Cher, Susy, et al. and » Yankeegirl, posted by zinya on July 24, 2003, at 23:45:40
> I just got to these posts and i TOTALLY agree with you. Separating out Effexor issues from social issues and compartmentalizing just won't work. I say mush on. We're doing fine.
> (and you thought *you* were contrarian! :))
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> Yg, are you sure it was deleted? At least once, i forget to hit the second 'submit' that says "confirm" ... Try paging back to see if you can find it and try again?
>
> hugs,
> zinyaHi Zinya, Hey, thanks for your support! Wasn't I a good little girl, doing as I was told and saying goodbye after being told I don't belong here? "ok, I'll just put my tail between my legs, sorry I broke your rules, bye'
I'm pretty sure it was deleted - I did get that page message that it was posted, but then it wasn't there. In it I did some MINOR male bashing, and how I came to discover my husband was a verbal abuser and not just 'says mean things occasionally' - all in the context of my belief that the controller chooses the doormat, not that the woman intentionally chooses a man who will abuse her. Except for the male bashing, I certainly had nothing in there that wasn't like all the other posts here - about all the stuff that causes our depression and anxiety in the first place. If he wants this to really be about Effexor, fine, but how come all the other posts have been all right? I'm stumped, and this feeling of rejection sure isn't good for my avoidant personality disorder hee hee :) Yankeegirl
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Re: Redirect: Dr Bob, I take medication » Dr. Bob
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 3:09:26
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/244991.html
Dear Dr. Bob: I AM on Effexor XR, now up to 300mgs per day. My needs are psycological and I do see a psychiatrist. If you've followed my previous posts, you would have seen that I have supported, been responsive, and have shared my own experiences regarding the drug Effexor, which is a anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, and falls in line with "psycological treatment" right? We also discuse SE's of med's. I beleive that what led us to be on medication are "medication issues". I don't see any postings by any psycologist here.
Most importantly, all my very caring psycobabble friends have helped me out so much with my "psycological issues" by discussing their "psycological issues".
I guess I'm not understanding the point here but anyway thanks for the suggestion. I'm not the social type (another psycological issue of mine) so I guess I'm staying here.
Mercedes
**************************> > I just had to go back and resurrect this subject...
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> I don't mean to disrupt this very nice discussion, but I'd like to ask that follow-ups be redirected to another board if they don't relate to medication issues. Psychological Babble is about psychology and psychological treatments, Psycho-Social-Babble is for general support and "just" being social, etc. Here's a link to the latter for this topic:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030719/msgs/244989.html
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> Thanks,
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> Bob--
This is fascinating. » mercedes
Posted by Daphnis on July 25, 2003, at 7:22:16
In reply to Re: Effexor Your post to me » Yankeegirl, posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 3:48:55
Soma amazing things going on here. Like: "Whose internet is it?"
And the site rules.
and the legitimacy of that, but the control issues of womens free discussion. I see some gender issues here. You can't delineate and prioritize the freedom and inclusiveness of womens conversation. that's sort of a male model.
At the same time, the forum is provided, and that's great. We may need another meeting place in the event of revolutionary freedom and growth.
Let me clarify that I have no hard feelings here. Just concern.--
Re: To read Y's post here - Dr. Bob » Yankeegirl
Posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 7:36:42
In reply to Re: Redirect: Resurect'g Pleasers w/men who are Cont, posted by Yankeegirl on July 24, 2003, at 22:29:14
Please cut & paste the following to get Yankeegirl's original post.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030719/msgs/244989.html
OH MY GOSH. I'm surprised all my posts are not deleted and Yankee - that's what I mean by being strong.If a man got in my face about something - I'd probably kick his butt - but something as minor as what Dr. Bob did by asking for us to move that discussion to another site actually gave me tears in my eyes because I was embarrassed.
1. for you because I didn't want your feelings hurt; and
2. because I always post myself babbling here in the effexor site about nothing & everything and now I'm really just embarrassed.I hope none of us have to leave here - but...dang I guess I'm too sensitive cause now I'm like - alrighty dumb a** see now everything is going to be messed up and you shouldn't have talked about anything but effexor and now others are getting in trouble etc. That's how I feel. I'm a friggin' adult and that's how I feel - upset by a comment by Dr. Bob - our host - and now my world is upside down.
See I'm nuts.
Love,
Cher--
Re: To read Y's post here - Dr. Bob » CherC68
Posted by Daphnis on July 25, 2003, at 7:48:13
In reply to Re: To read Y's post here - Dr. Bob » Yankeegirl, posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 7:36:42
Hey, cher. You didn't do a bad thing. We are all so sensitive. and now we all are struggling with being shamed. Not that DB's intentions are bad. He is just trying to run the site in the way he envisions it. Remember, He is doing research and it is just easier and clearer for him if it is organized by category. and I am sure he thinks it is easier for "seekers" or "searchers" to get what they need if it is "cleaner and clearer" (sorry to speak for you here, DB, but I am just working through this. I understand I may be way off the mark) but women work through things by talking like this. And our lives are all of a piece, not compartmentalized and fragmented.
and, everyone, if you have noticed, he is not intruding here, whether by choice or because he is busy. So we are doing just fine.
Toxic shame is at the core of a lot of this stuff.
All the posts I have read are relevant and helpful. I am going to be late to work, so more later....--
Re: Cher
Posted by willie on July 25, 2003, at 7:48:42
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/19991028/msgs/13781.html
Cher...just read your message before I signed off. Don't be upset. If Dr. Bob wants us to use the social site, then we'll move. Who knows, we may even find other great people to communicate with. It doesn't mean we have to stop communicating. I think Dr. Bob just wants this site to be a resource to people who are experiencing side effects and need support with the drug. With all of us talking about other things...a person who may come to this site looking for answers, could turn away as they will not find the information they are looking for.
Sorry if this not the reason behind it Dr. Bob, but I just wanted to let Cher know not to feel negative about it.
Take care Cher...I want to hear about your Pdoc when I get back okay????Willie
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Re: Willie Daph
Posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 8:31:54
In reply to Re: Cher, posted by willie on July 25, 2003, at 7:48:42
Thank you guys. I'm fine with it - but sometimes I get embarrassed or feel dejected or rejected by little things.
I do understand what Dr. Bob means totally - but its sometimes hard to separate the different parts of our lives and I could feel the tension and some hurt from the other posters, which made me hurt too.
Take care on vacation Willie and I hope you have a safe and happy trip.
Love,
Cher--
Re: Everyone re. the redirect
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 10:16:52
In reply to Re: Willie Daph, posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 8:31:54
Dr. Bob wasn't banishing you from the site. Psycho-Social is just a separate board on this site. Dr. Bob likes to keep Psycho-Babble as a medication resource and discussion, and prefers social interaction to be directed to Psycho-Social Babble and talk about therapy to be directed to Psychological Babble, faith to be discussed at Psycho-Babble Faith, etc.
It probably has to do with the archives and keeping it a place to search for medication issues. It certainly isn't a rejection or anything. Psycho-Social Babble is as much a part of Dr. Bob's site as this board is.
You'll see some of the same posters, and maybe some new ones. Come on over. It's a nice place to be.
(And a big welcome to Psycho-Social Babble)
Dinah
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Re: Everyone re. the redirect » Dinah
Posted by zinya on July 25, 2003, at 10:40:41
In reply to Re: Everyone re. the redirect, posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 10:16:52
Dinah,
You are a 'monitor', I presume?
I am going to ask you to understand *why* some people on this board immediately took this as a kind of banishing or rejection whether it was intended that way or not.
In just the past few weeks, an incredibly rich bond has developed among the current frequenters to this site. Everything that brought us here has to do with Effexor and our drug issues, but it is entirely to be expected that in a very fluid way of exploring with each other how we arrived at our respective points of seeking or exploring a drug route to dealing with our depressions and anxieties, that we have bit by bit shared with each other more and more of the paths that led us here and the things we've learned along the way about what works and doesn't work for our dealings with depression, anxiety etc.
For us to suddenly be told to "compartmentalize" our talk -- when our posts flow in the same post back and forth between Effexor and other drug issues, side effects etc to the broader issues we're dealing with that are "psychosocial" would, in my opinion, be artificial and frankly impossible. The other site seems fine for people who arrive at psychobabble seeking general discussion and therapy. But to expect a group which has bonded and in that VERY process doing each of us a world of good because we have come to trust and care about each other -- in THIS environment -- on THIS site -- as a home of sorts where we've found a security that allows us to deal with the very interwoven complex of drug and non-drug issues we are facing to "divide up" each of our thoughts and post only the specifically medical ones here and the others somewhere else??? Well, it suggests to me a misunderstanding of what is realistic for us especially given just how hard it is in each of our situations to even start opening up to others. We've slowly but surely come to that point, and suddenly we're told to divide ourselves up into separate groupings.
I find it frankly counterproductive. I for one intend to stay here. I would feel overloaded by having two separate sites to check and monitor and then have to monitor myself to make sure i only talked about Effexor here and related topics somewhere else.
I'm sure in the course of this site, these things come and go, as they should. It doesn't mean this site is going to become something different than its original purpose. We all respect and are grateful for that. Which puts us all in a very awkward position, where there is an enormous power dynamic being tapped into here, tapping into each of our respective submissions to power where we feel we have to be grateful and therefore how dare we have a sense of justice for our own needs. And yet we do. I highly encourage you to just let us be. Over time, you will see, i'm sure, that the basic purpose of Effexor linkage is precisely what is at the heart of everything we are doing here, but at the moment a wonderful convergence has happened here with a unique bonding through this original purpose that brought us each here, and I urge you to respect and even I would hope take satisfaction in seeing just what a wonderful support group has evolved that for now means our group is in the process of exploring each other's backgrounds to what led us here, but we need to do that in the 'safety' and 'context' of this grouping here that caused us each to start opening up in the first place. We can't talk uproot to another locale and feel the same vibe that has prompted this whole evolution to take place.
Frankly, I'm sorry Dr. Bob didn't see this in context and realize it was a natural flowering of what this site has made possible. We do continue to deal with our drug issues here, and I urge you not to censor us from discussing the other issues we bring up in the same flow of our mutual sharings.
Thank you.
sincerely,
zinya
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Re: Everyone re. the redirect » zinya
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 10:55:47
In reply to Re: Everyone re. the redirect » Dinah, posted by zinya on July 25, 2003, at 10:40:41
I'm a deputy, yes. But my post wasn't written as a deputy. Just as someone who wished to welcome you to Psycho-Social Babble and to assure you that Dr. Bob certainly didn't mean to hurt you. I saw that people were upset, and I just wanted to help.
This isn't a new topic, the separation of boards has long been debated. And most of us on Psycho-Social originally found this place through a search on medication and formed bonds here.
It's Dr. Bob's site, and he has his preferred way of doing things. It isn't directed to anyone in particular.
And just to make things even more confusing, discussion of posting policies really belongs at Psycho-Babble Administration, so we'll probably get a redirect there. :)
I hope this and my original post are taken in the spirit they were intended.
Best wishes,
Dinah
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Re: Pssstt.......
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 11:09:03
In reply to Re: Everyone re. the redirect » zinya, posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 10:55:47
If the idea of moving to Psycho-Social Babble is that unpleasant to you (and I will try not to be offended :) ), I will let you in on a long known secret. (And hope Dr. Bob doesn't get annoyed with me for sharing it.) Just spend a bit of time in each post talking about medication. Even if a post has social content, Dr. Bob doesn't generally redirect as long as it is also medication related.
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Re: Everyone re. the redirect » Dinah
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 13:51:07
In reply to Re: Everyone re. the redirect, posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 10:16:52
To Dinah the deputy. I went there..to the social babble link we were directed to. There are four posts. One is me responding to someone, and the one that was redirected by you all, dated 07/21 = 3. What's social about that? You say there are alot of poster's. Where are they? I'm serious hear, not being sarcastic, maybe I don't know how to get past the 4 postings. I'm staying here but will try to reiterate that I'm on psyco drugs in my future postings.
Mercedes
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> Dr. Bob wasn't banishing you from the site. Psycho-Social is just a separate board on this site. Dr. Bob likes to keep Psycho-Babble as a medication resource and discussion, and prefers social interaction to be directed to Psycho-Social Babble and talk about therapy to be directed to Psychological Babble, faith to be discussed at Psycho-Babble Faith, etc.
>
> It probably has to do with the archives and keeping it a place to search for medication issues. It certainly isn't a rejection or anything. Psycho-Social Babble is as much a part of Dr. Bob's site as this board is.
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> You'll see some of the same posters, and maybe some new ones. Come on over. It's a nice place to be.
>
> (And a big welcome to Psycho-Social Babble)
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> Dinah--
Re: Everyone re. the redirect » mercedes
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 14:45:34
In reply to Re: Everyone re. the redirect » Dinah, posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 13:51:07
Yes, if you follow the direct link to that post, that's all you'll see. But if you go to the top of this page, under the Shark picture, you'll see a list of all the boards Babble has to offer. One of them is Psycho-Social Babble. If you click there you'll see the whole board.
Hope that helps. :)
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 21:39:29
In reply to Redirected: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 19:54:40
> how does one sort that out, really? I mean, I am thinking about whether or not to pursue the Effexor thing, and exploring all this new stuff, and people who have experience. and I don't WANT to go off somewhere else...
>
> Daphnis> For us to suddenly be told to "compartmentalize" our talk -- when our posts flow in the same post back and forth between Effexor and other drug issues, side effects etc to the broader issues we're dealing with that are "psychosocial" would, in my opinion, be artificial and frankly impossible.
>
> I would feel overloaded by having two separate sites to check and monitor and then have to monitor myself to make sure i only talked about Effexor here and related topics somewhere else.
>
> I urge you to respect and even I would hope take satisfaction in seeing just what a wonderful support group has evolved
>
> zinyaI know it's not as natural, and not as easy, sorry.
And I do think it's great that *two* wonderful support groups have evolved. :-)
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> Why was my post deleted?
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> Yankeegirl> are you sure it was deleted? At least once, i forget to hit the second 'submit' that says "confirm" ...
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> zinyaI didn't delete it, I didn't even move anything until tonight...
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> Soma amazing things going on here. Like: "Whose internet is it?"
> And the site rules.
> and the legitimacy of that, but the control issues of womens free discussion. I see some gender issues here. You can't delineate and prioritize the freedom and inclusiveness of womens conversation. that's sort of a male model.
> At the same time, the forum is provided, and that's great. We may need another meeting place in the event of revolutionary freedom and growth.
>
> DaphnisHmm, I never thought of it as a male model, but maybe you have a point there. But in women's clothing stores, they keep different styles in different areas, too, don't they?
> I think Dr. Bob just wants this site to be a resource to people who are experiencing side effects and need support with the drug. With all of us talking about other things...a person who may come to this site looking for answers, could turn away as they will not find the information they are looking for.
>
> willieExactly!
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> I always post myself babbling here in the effexor site about nothing & everything and now I'm really just embarrassed.
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> CherC68There's no need for any of you to feel embarrassed, and none of you are in trouble. Your discussion just evolved beyond the scope of that board, that's all. Sorry if I should've explained things more at the time...
> Dr. Bob wasn't banishing you from the site. Psycho-Social is just a separate board on this site...
>
> DinahThanks again for helping out...
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> if you go to the top of this page, under the Shark picture, you'll see a list of all the boards Babble has to offer. One of them is Psycho-Social Babble. If you click there you'll see the whole board.
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> DinahAlso, each page with a post has at its top a link to the board it's on...
Bob
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 22:52:16
In reply to Re: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 21:39:29
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> Also, each page with a post has at its top a link to the board it's on...
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> BobEvery day I learn something new and fascinating.
(And I hope I'm not in trouuuble for the hint about medications)
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:21
In reply to Redirected: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 19:54:40
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 21:32:25
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 20:57:07
YG, I went to the social babble site and there are 13 posts and of those 13, 9 are Dinah's or a response to Dinah. I think there are a total of 4 persons (I'm talking about a separate site, not the one where Susy and I posted, the hysterical one). I donwanna go there. I'd feel like I was being policed every time I wrote.
Just a comment, like you asked.
mercedes
***************************After absorbing Dinah's comments, wouldn't it be ok if we decided as a group to go there together? Maybe there would be other people who have already gone through this who could enlighten us? You guys are the experienced ones who always help the newbies with their questions from 'Day 1 on Effexor', etc. Maybe it's time to move to a site where other people can help you (us) to make our OWN progress?????
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Re: Posts didn't disappear. » Dinah
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 21:46:28
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/245322.html
I was just in both a short while ago. I didn't see an apology. Did he just do it like within the last 15 minutes?
How do we know whether our messages went to Social or Admin? And what would deferenciate where he chooses to redirect them? I just read Zinya's extreemly kind post to me and now it's gone. Did it get re-directed to Social Babble or Administration? I'm spinning my wheels here (and due to my illness, and my conprehension problem, my wheels don't spin very fast) and I find this very frustrating.
Mercedes
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> Dr. Bob just moved them all to Psycho-Social Babble, as is his custom. And the others to Psycho-babble Administration.
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> And he made a very nice apology to you on Psycho-Social Babble. That alone should be worth a trip there. :)
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> Thanks for the kind words, Yankeegirl.--
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:01:51
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 21:32:25
Hi Mercedes,
In response to your post about psycho-social and 13 posts from Dinah, I don't know where that is. The section Dinah sent me to had a subsection title about pleasers and controllers- it had a gray box saying "yankeegirl" that i clicked on, and when I got to psycho-social, those posts were in red.
About your last post as to my 2 'missing' posts, the first one was in response to yours about why your husband really wanted you back (so he could abuse you somemore) and my reply was how I came to discover my husband was a verbal abuser. That post was sent to psycho social under 'pleaser and controller'.
The other reply I did this morning about this whole mess was sent to psycho-administration and I haven't even been there yet!
Brother, we have to figure out l place to go to.
I'm going to ask Dinah for details.
Oh, also, Mercedes, I mentioned how I was having a hard time remembering who said what! Oh dear, I even called Zinya - 'Ninya' Yikes! I see now it was you, not Cher, who was most upset by yesterday's developments. Please don't blame yourself, because I blamed myself. Hee Hee. Actually it is nobody's fault - we turned the site into something WE needed, we just need to figure out now, where that is, if it's a different place. Yankeegirl
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Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » mercedes
Posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 22:44:54
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 21:32:25
> YG, I went to the social babble site and there are 13 posts and of those 13, 9 are Dinah's or a response to Dinah
Hi Mercedes. I think from your description that you must have followed the link to the post Dr. Bob redirected to Administration, rather than Social Babble.
While I have been described as a prolific poster, I don't think that 9/13 of Social, Admin, or even Psychological Babble (tho I might have to count posts on Psychological) could possibly be mine. :) So I think you just reached this thread on Admin. Since I was trying to help you guys with the posting policies of the site, my posts to you and your replies were redirected to Admin, and this post will be redirected there as well.
My suggestion would be to look at the top or bottom of this screen, find Psycho-Social Babble, or Psycho-Babble Administration, or both, and just scroll down till you reach your thread. That way you could get a good overview of the whole site, rather than just getting disjointed glimpses of just parts of your thread.
Again, I know it's confusing. But this is a great place overall. I hope you decide to give it a bit of effort.
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Re: Trying to understand
Posted by Susy on July 25, 2003, at 22:46:49
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/245322.html
Hello, all of you, ok, I am still trying to understand everybody's points of view.
Now, the question of the Million Dollars,
HOW CAN I GET TO THE PSYCHO SOCIAL BABBLE??????I will appreciate any help
Susy
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Re: Trying to understand
Posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:52:22
In reply to Re: Trying to understand, posted by Susy on July 25, 2003, at 22:46:49
> Hello, all of you, ok, I am still trying to understand everybody's points of view.
> Now, the question of the Million Dollars,
> HOW CAN I GET TO THE PSYCHO SOCIAL BABBLE??????
>
> I will appreciate any help
>
> SusyHi Susy,
You click at the top of this screen on Psycho-Babble, and the next screen has a list of all the different psychos - click on psycho social babble, then if you scroll down is there a gray box? Mine says yankeegirl, does your say that or does your say susy? If the gray box doesn't get you to our little section, you would have to keep scrolling down until you see the little section headline that starts Re: Pleasers and Controlling men...
Hope that helps.. Yankeegirl
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Re: Trying to understand
Posted by Susy on July 25, 2003, at 22:59:26
In reply to Re: Trying to understand, posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:52:22
Hi Yankeegirl, thanks for your answer, the thing is not up, nor down, I have a Phsyco-Social-Babble
I just see
Starting a New Thread
Phsyco Babble
Thread
Post Follow Ups
Framed
FAQ
Above and at the bottom.
If you can help it's ok, if not don't worry I will keep on trying.Hugs, Susy
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Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » Dinah
Posted by mercedes on July 26, 2003, at 2:44:21
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » mercedes, posted by Dinah on July 25, 2003, at 22:44:54
No Dinah, I went to social babble through the link and then clicked on social babble and there were 13 posts which I referred to. I have been on the admin site and that is where there were 4 posts which now include the redirect from Bob which is all in one big lump. Now I can't even get to either one.
I beleive you all just got us all "disjointed" when we were fine. Go to social for what? and admin for what? Why are we in admin when admin is for the administration of the site. Are we administrators now? I don't mean to sound like I'm a little upset. I'm alot upset. Anyway "sorry about that" should fix everything.
Thanks for your help anyway.
mercedes
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> > YG, I went to the social babble site and there are 13 posts and of those 13, 9 are Dinah's or a response to Dinah
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> Hi Mercedes. I think from your description that you must have followed the link to the post Dr. Bob redirected to Administration, rather than Social Babble.
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> While I have been described as a prolific poster, I don't think that 9/13 of Social, Admin, or even Psychological Babble (tho I might have to count posts on Psychological) could possibly be mine. :) So I think you just reached this thread on Admin. Since I was trying to help you guys with the posting policies of the site, my posts to you and your replies were redirected to Admin, and this post will be redirected there as well.
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> My suggestion would be to look at the top or bottom of this screen, find Psycho-Social Babble, or Psycho-Babble Administration, or both, and just scroll down till you reach your thread. That way you could get a good overview of the whole site, rather than just getting disjointed glimpses of just parts of your thread.
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> Again, I know it's confusing. But this is a great place overall. I hope you decide to give it a bit of effort.--
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » mercedes
Posted by Dinah on July 26, 2003, at 5:47:12
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » Dinah, posted by mercedes on July 26, 2003, at 2:44:21
Well, I've done my best. I'm sorry it wasn't more helpful. I guess you need to take the rest up with Dr. Bob.
All the best to all of you.
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Re: Trying to understand » Susy
Posted by theo on July 26, 2003, at 9:54:44
In reply to Re: Trying to understand, posted by Susy on July 25, 2003, at 22:46:49
> Hello, all of you, ok, I am still trying to understand everybody's points of view.
> Now, the question of the Million Dollars,
> HOW CAN I GET TO THE PSYCHO SOCIAL BABBLE??????
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> I will appreciate any help
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> SusyAll the links are between the Previous "new" indicators and Search last year for....Google. I can understand, myself I do work and like to zip through these threads on info about dosage, side effects etc. It only makes since to socialize on Psycho-Social and do post your dosage and med specific posts on this site out of respect to people on the go, and I'm not posting this just to be about "self."
Posted by shar on July 27, 2003, at 16:16:39
In reply to Redirected: Follow-ups, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:21
Lingo:
Post=an individual message, submitted by an individual. This right here is a post. The word post is equivalent to a message. When it's a noun. It can also be a verb like "I tried to post my message but it didn't show up."
Thread=A set of messages, all the posts that are submitted in response to a particular topic. This 'thread' begins with the post titled "Redirected Redirects" and it has a little bullet by it, indicating that it's the beginning of a new topic.
Poster=Someone who submits a post or message.
Board=One of the Babble boards, such as Admin, PsychoBabble 2000, Psycho-Social Babble, Psycho Babble, Psychological Babble, Psycho Babble Faith, etc. Sometimes abbreviations are used for the boards, such as PB for Psycho Babble (the med board) and PSB for Psycho Social Babble.
Site or Website=All of the boards make up this website. Sometimes called (by me, mainly) The Babbles, meaning the whole shebang, all of the boards.
Figuring out where you are: Scroll to the very top of where you are, using the scroll bar, and there should be a title or note that helps you determine if you are on a board (it'll have the title of the board) or reading a message or post (it'll have the title of the post).Another way to find out 'where you are' on this website is to look at the address that shows in the window of your web browser (at least Internet Explorer shows it).
Where it has the URL such as
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/ . That URL means you're on the admin board. Each board has its own URL that should be clear enough to tell you where you are. The med board ends with the
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble piece.All the other boards have some sort of name after /babble like
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin or http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/2000
or ...well I can't remember the one for social, it might just be
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social.If you are on a board, such as social or admin, you can get to other boards by scrolling to the top or bottom of the board you're on, and then clicking on the link (which is the name of the board) for the board you want to go to.
For example, if you are on Admin and want to go to the meds board, you can scroll to the top or bottom of the Admin Board and see the word Psycho Babble, and it should be blue (or it is for me) and click on it, and you will be taken to the meds board.
A URL that shows you are reading a message (or post) will have the URL of the board, plus "msgs" somewhere in it, plus the number of the message (or post). For an admin message or post it would be like:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030508/msgs/245795.html
with a different set of numbers at the end of each message.If you are reading a message (or post), you can only get back to the board the message is from. You can scroll down and at the end of the message it will have a link to click on to get you back to the board you were on. I don't think you can be reading a message from admin, and get to the social board from there. You'd have to go back to the admin board, then click on psycho-social babble.
A URL that shows you are in the midst of posting a message (like I am now) will be something like:
http://www-dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/babble.pl . I can't do anything from here except post (submit your post) or reset, and reset would erase this oh-so-wonderful and incomprehensible post, giving me a clean slate to start over on. If I use the "back" button on my browser from here, I always lose my post (I don't know if this is true for everyone).This is very basic, I hope it makes sense, and I hope it's accurate!! It's great to read the FAQ's also. That's all I can think of and this may hurt more than help. Just thought I'd give it a shot, and try to splain a bit.
Shar
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 23:17:34
In reply to Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by shar on July 27, 2003, at 16:16:39
Posted by shar on July 28, 2003, at 0:56:15
In reply to Re: thanks! (nm) » shar, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 23:17:34
Posted by shar on July 28, 2003, at 1:04:17
In reply to Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by shar on July 27, 2003, at 16:16:39
Oh, one other thing that was mentioned by someone else but may bear repeating. The boards here 'flip' or start over when they reach a certain size (like bytes or kilobytes or some computer measurement). So, one day it is possible to go to a board, and it won't be the same board with the same posts as before.
Usually, the most recent posts are carried over, and no threads are lost, but it can be a shock because it may be only the last post in a thread that is carried over.
Near the top of each board, just before the posts start, there's a list called "Previous Periods" and you can click on the last set of dates to get to the board that existed before it flipped or started anew.
Sometimes that is confusing.
Shar
Posted by yankeegirl on July 28, 2003, at 2:02:44
In reply to Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by shar on July 27, 2003, at 16:16:39
THANK YOU SHAR!!!!!
THANK YOU FOREVER!!!!
I just wrote Dr. Bob telling him this was all new to us, and that I didn't even know what to call things!
Now I do!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to do that for people like me..
Yankeegirl
Posted by shar on July 28, 2003, at 10:41:23
In reply to Re: Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by yankeegirl on July 28, 2003, at 2:02:44
Posted by Greg on July 28, 2003, at 14:43:26
In reply to You're very welcome! (nm) » yankeegirl, posted by shar on July 28, 2003, at 10:41:23
You are so very hepful... Would you please be my friend?
Seriously, it's pretty cool what you did girl.
Greg
Posted by medlib on August 3, 2003, at 7:31:01
In reply to Redirected: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on July 25, 2003, at 19:54:40
Dr. Bob--
I think that Shar's terrific post would make a great addition to FAQ, perhaps linked to a question about "getting around all these different boards", or something like that.---medlib
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 4, 2003, at 6:25:33
In reply to To Dr. Bob re Shar's Navigation and Lingo post, posted by medlib on August 3, 2003, at 7:31:01
> I think that Shar's terrific post would make a great addition to FAQ, perhaps linked to a question about "getting around all these different boards", or something like that.
Good idea, thanks! How about this, I just linked to it:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#lingo
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#navigationI know there have been other lingo posts, too, if anyone has those links, I'd be glad to add them...
Bob
Posted by duck on April 16, 2004, at 22:57:39
In reply to Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by shar on July 27, 2003, at 16:16:39
I'm sorta glad I found this posting---I've visited several board and cannot, CANNOT, figure out how to get to where you post, or where you read others' postings. Somehow, mysteriously, I end up in Yahoo! I even registered in Yahoo!---I am guessing that one must be registered in Yahoo! in order to post. Is this correct?
Whenever I see the list of boards, I click on the Psycho Babble Social. But I get an explanation of that board, but NO place to post! The Social board is what I want mostly to post from & to read posts. Help!
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2004, at 13:59:41
In reply to Re: Navigation and Lingo (Excruciatingly Long), posted by duck on April 16, 2004, at 22:57:39
> The Social board is what I want mostly to post from & to read posts. Help!
You figured this out, right? Sorry it's so confusing...
Bob
Posted by duck on April 17, 2004, at 15:23:40
In reply to Re: how to get to where you post, posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2004, at 13:59:41
If I go into Psycho Social
Babble, it doesn't direct you to where you post messages. I somehow got into Archives, clicked on a topic of interest, and went from there. I am assuming that that's how one gets to the posting areas---through clicking on an already-existing message. Right?---Duck
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2004, at 15:54:31
In reply to Re: how to get to where you post, posted by duck on April 17, 2004, at 15:23:40
> If I go into Psycho Social Babble, it doesn't direct you to where you post messages.
To start a new thread, (1) click the "Start new thread" link above the first Google search area or just scroll down to that section and (2) click the "Go to form" button.
> I somehow got into Archives, clicked on a topic of interest, and went from there. I am assuming that that's how one gets to the posting areas---through clicking on an already-existing message. Right?
To post a follow-up, right.
Bob
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