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Posted by OddipusRex on January 17, 2003, at 8:51:57
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20021227/msgs/1612.html
This quote is part of a body of verses from the Christiandom bible that has been used for about 2000 years to arrouse anti-Semitic feelings toward jews. ~~~~~~~~~
How is this opinion supportive? Lou may sincerely hold this belief but that doesn't mean that this forum is the place to support it. Suppose someone quoted something from the Old Testament and then posted something like thisThis is a quote from the Jewdom bible that has been used for 1600 years to arouse anti-Muslim feelings toward Muslims.
or
This is a quote from the Jewdom bible that has been used for 300 years to arouse anti-Palestinian feelings toward Palestinians.
Just because someone believes something sincerely doesn't mean it should be posted here. Wouldn't it be better if posters on the Faith board confined themselves to discussing their own beliefs without making accusations (true or otherwise) against other faiths or their holy writings?
With all due respect Lou I am not interested in discussing your beliefs here. My question is for Bob reguarding posting policy. Thanks
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 17, 2003, at 10:20:58
In reply to Is this supportive Bob?, posted by OddipusRex on January 17, 2003, at 8:51:57
OR,
You wrote,[...Is this supportive?...]
In the following link, you will see the body of verses that have been used to arrouse anti-Semitic feelings toward jews . It is my intention here to show that all of those verse DO NOT support anti-Semitism by explaining what they really could mean in their contexts that show that the verses are NOT anti-Semitic. I wrote that the verse[....if you deny me to men , I will deny you to my father..] could have a different meaning than the meaning used by those that want to use that verse to arrouse ant-Semitic hatred by saying that that verse means that all jews can not "go to heaven" because they [deny] jesus. I could go through the hundresds of verses in the new testament that have been used to arrouse anti-Semitism and show a different picture to this community. When the poster here wrote, verses about the religious leaders of ancient Israel being [hypocrites] and that they sought to kill jesus and other posted referrences to [the jews killed christ doctrine], [those] posts were [not] deemed "unsupportive" .
I beleive that for me to show that a verse that has been used to arrouse anti-Semitic feelings can be shown to [not] be anti-Semitic [IS] supportive. The following is a link that lists each verse. I do not share the opinions of the writer in this link. My only use of the link is to show the list of verses that have been used to arrouse anti-Semitism. Evryone's cooperation will be appreciated to look at this list only for the purpose of identifying the verses.
Thanks,
Lou
http://www.messiahtruth.com/anti.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 17, 2003, at 11:11:51
In reply to Is this supportive Bob?, posted by OddipusRex on January 17, 2003, at 8:51:57
OR,
You wrote,[...is this supportive...]
Let us reason together. I wrote; [...the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's jesus..]
The other poster responded:
[...if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my father...]
Then my response to that response was that I considered the verse [...deny you before my father..] to be in a body of verses that have been used to arrouse anti-Semitic feelings toward jews. When I was growing up, I was taunted by others saying,"[...you jews are going to hell because you {deny} jesus...]. [...christ killer...][...etc., etc...]. Now since then, It has been revealed to me that that verse has a different meaning than the way it was used toward me. And I explained that in the post, that you are questioning for a determination as to whether it is supportive or not, and I believe that my reply to the poster that wrote [...will deny you to the father...] is exteamly [supportive]. For the poster wrote [...if you deny...I will deny you to the father..] as a response to me writing that the Rider on the white horse in my experiance is not christiandom's jesus. Could not one ask if the other poster's post,[...if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my father...]was supportive?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 17, 2003, at 11:35:44
In reply to Is this supportive Bob?, posted by OddipusRex on January 17, 2003, at 8:51:57
OR,
You wrote,[...is this suppotive?...]
The faith board was constructed [because] faith is [not] supportive to, as Dr. Bob writes, atheism, agnosticism], and those are not supportive to faith.. And that the the faith board ,[...is in a state of flux...].
Now I have been writing that [...it goes without saying...] that different faiths do not support other faiths. But I am asking that we all make that a [given] on the faith board, so that we can practice [tolarance]. I know that there is animosity between religions and I know that Dr. Bob has wrote that [...he wants to give it a try to discuss faith here...] ,And so do I. Dr. Bob has wrote that [...the social board can be used to write objections to faith...]. So it is my understanding that because of the previous posts by Dr. Bob , that "support" on the faith board takes on a differnt perspective than "support" on the other boards. And I agree with him!
Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 18, 2003, at 16:55:42
In reply to Is this supportive Bob?, posted by OddipusRex on January 17, 2003, at 8:51:57
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20021227/msgs/1612.html
> > This quote is part of a body of verses from the Christiandom bible that has been used for about 2000 years to arrouse anti-Semitic feelings toward jews.> Wouldn't it be better if posters on the Faith board confined themselves to discussing their own beliefs without making accusations (true or otherwise) against other faiths or their holy writings?
Accusations are definitely a problem, but IMO, that statement doesn't accuse Christians in general (or their bible) of being anti-Semitic. It does say people have used it that way, but he doesn't say who those people are.
Bob
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