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Posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 6:35:13
I noticed that Colin got a PBC and then a block, I think in the same week. This is the second time he's been blocked, and you gave him four weeks instead of two. What gives? And why would someone (scared) who made several (four?) uncivil posts at once (which earned about two PBCs and one block) get only a week?
I know you have just revised your civility policy and are asking us to trust you. But it's really not a question of trust; it's one of understanding. This is your board, and you are certainly entitled to do with it what you will. But I and others have trouble understanding how you issue the blocks. If, indeed, you give a PBC first, then a week, then two weeks, then four weeks, then maybe you made a mistake with Colin (or maybe I missed a two-week block)? But if you change that depending on how heinous the crime, I understand that (and applaud it) too.
What I don't understand is why Colin's post was heinous enough to earn him four weeks, and scared's multiple evil posts got a week.
beardy : )>
Posted by Phil on May 4, 2002, at 8:17:14
In reply to Question about blocking: Dr. Bob, posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 6:35:13
Right now, I think Dr. Bob, even if we don't agree, deserves a few get out of jail free cards.
nomatter will be taken care of; colin knows the rules, and Dr. Bob deserves a break.
I got a PBC, I deserved it, case closed. I'll try to live on. yukyuk
I'm not trying to pick on anyone here but when Dr. Bob has to say."You know, I'm not perfect but I'm trying." If he screws up now and then, I try to remember the big picture.
Whether people think he's using us or whatever, he's given us a sanctuary to air our frustrations with this disease. I'm not going to make his life more difficult; I think he's gone through enough.
Oh, Dr. Bob, you spelled my name wrong on the last check, it's one 'L'. And the pen and pencil set, you didn't have to do that.
Posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 8:37:09
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob..get outta jail free » beardedlady, posted by Phil on May 4, 2002, at 8:17:14
Phil:
What you saw as a criticism was a question. I'm trying to understand the rules, not change them or bend them. From my first day on this board, I have defended and appreciated everything Dr. Bob has done and tried to do. Even when I have disagreed with him, I've held nothing but the utmost respect for him—and for his decisions. And I hope that has come across in most of my administrative posts.
There is no question that Dr. Bob has a difficult job. But I do bite, so when I decide to take a chunk out of someone's leg, I want to see how blocked I'm going to get. Will it be a week, since I've only had a PBC? Or will it be two weeks if something I say is truly evil? And because I can't imagine ever saying something in offense--as in scared's posts, I want to know what self-defense gets: a week or life?
This is all a very stiff, very proper way of saying that I think you're barking up the wrong tree! There are plenty of folks here whose questions and comments do suggest a lack of faith in the doc's decision-making skills. On one or two circumstances, I may have beat a dead horse until it came back to life to grant me a "good point," but digreement and argument are healthy. (Polite disagreement and argument, though challenging, are really healthy!)
I was never a supporter of, "America: Love it, or Leave it." I was the one shouting, "America: Love it? Then Make it Better!"
My question to--not criticism of--Dr. Bob stands.
But that's okay, Phil. You're still cute. (The thong, however, may be a bit tight.)
beardy : )>
Posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 8:39:52
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob..get outta jail free » beardedlady, posted by Phil on May 4, 2002, at 8:17:14
Posted by Phil on May 4, 2002, at 15:19:36
In reply to Criticism v. Questions » Phil, posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 8:37:09
I stand corrected and yes, I'm growing out of the thong...really, really not good.
I'm also 3 months behind with electrolysis bill.
Starting to look like Don Johnson on Miami Vice back there. I'm really going to be sorry I said that.
Posted by Zo on May 5, 2002, at 15:02:20
In reply to Re: Criticism v. Questions » beardedlady, posted by Phil on May 4, 2002, at 15:19:36
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 20:08:17
In reply to Question about blocking: Dr. Bob, posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 6:35:13
> I noticed that Colin got a PBC and then a block, I think in the same week. This is the second time he's been blocked, and you gave him four weeks instead of two. What gives?
Sorry, but I'm afraid I'm not able to get into that here. But I think he knows. And if he doesn't, he can email me.
> And why would someone (scared) who made several (four?) uncivil posts at once (which earned about two PBCs and one block) get only a week?
What's important to me is whether people respond when I ask them to be civil. If I'm busy and don't ask them to be civil until after they've posted a number of times, well, part of it was me being busy, and I'm not sure it would really be fair for me to penalize them for that.
Bob
Posted by Zo on May 6, 2002, at 3:12:02
In reply to Re: Question about blocking, posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 20:08:17
Um, hi Bob. Were you saying something about. .. (urgle urgle choke) . . trust?Zo
Posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 4:00:44
In reply to Question about blocking: Dr. Bob, posted by beardedlady on May 4, 2002, at 6:35:13
I have similar observations to those of beardy but a different question ...
I also noticed that someone (I don't wanna name names) who made several clearly uncivil posts at once managed to get TWO PBC's before a block, whereas others (myself among them) who uttered far TAMER things got only ONE PBC before being blocked!
If, indeed, you give a PBC first, then a week of blocking, maybe you simply made a mistake or got busy when that person made their barrage of uncivil posts and (s)he actually should have been blocked after their FIRST PBC, not their second one?
What I don't understand is why do some people's posts get them just one PBC and then a block, whereas that other person's multiple evil posts got TWO PBC's before a block?
I echo beardy in having trouble understanding how you issue the PBC's and subsequent blocks ... I'm just tryin' to understand what appears to be an inconsistency here. Thanks.
Posted by beardedlady on May 6, 2002, at 5:31:58
In reply to Re: Question about blocking, posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 20:08:17
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 6, 2002, at 5:33:18
In reply to Re: OMG, who knew? WHO HERE KNEW THAT? » Dr. Bob, posted by Zo on May 6, 2002, at 3:12:02
> Um, hi Bob. Were you saying something about. .. (urgle urgle choke) . . trust?
I was, yes...
Bob
Posted by Phil on May 6, 2002, at 6:57:15
In reply to Must we discuss Phil's bikini line on ADMIN? (nm), posted by Zo on May 5, 2002, at 15:02:20
Posted by Zo on May 6, 2002, at 7:18:33
In reply to Re: OMG, who knew?, posted by Dr. Bob on May 6, 2002, at 5:33:18
Posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 17:23:23
In reply to Dr. Bob, can U pls explain this part (beardy, read, posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 4:00:44
Hi - it appears as if you missed my question in this thread cuz you answered Zo's thread, but not my question regarding the number of PBC's given before a block is issued.
My understanding from the FAQ is the first time a person gets ONE PBC, then a week's block, but I noticed that there was a person who got TWO PBC's and then a week's block - could you explain the inconsistency? Thanks.
Posted by beardedlady on May 6, 2002, at 19:10:44
In reply to Um, DR. BOB c'mere please!, posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 17:23:23
I think he explained it, Janelle, in the post to me. He said that sometimes a person commits simultaneous incivility fractions, and he catches them all at the same time. That's why you see PBCs on multiple posts.
Hope this helps.
beardy : )>
Posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 21:12:42
In reply to Re: Um, DR. BOB c'mere please! » Janelle, posted by beardedlady on May 6, 2002, at 19:10:44
Thanks for explaining that beardy! I had only posted to him here a couple of times because I just wasn't able to find a response to my question in what he said to you, but now you have explained it to me! Thanks!
Do you know - does Dr. Bob NOT answer questions that he might consider "repetitive" or that he feels he already answered when resonding to another question, like apparently my question was answered by him when he addressed your original question here?
Posted by Zo on May 7, 2002, at 0:05:11
In reply to Ah, thanks beardy! Also ... » beardedlady, posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 21:12:42
I imagine would simply be grateful for any answers people can find on their own. . .
Zo
Posted by beardedlady on May 7, 2002, at 5:27:01
In reply to Ah, thanks beardy! Also ... » beardedlady, posted by Janelle on May 6, 2002, at 21:12:42
He's just put the "Apologies and FAQs" section (you'll have to find it; it's here somewhere) in the site introduction, with a little explanation that he's not perfect and he does what he thinks is fair, which means it's subjective, so we're bound to disagree. As Zo has said, he's been called on the carpet for everything he does, and I/we think it's time to give him a break.
As we are all reminded by countless site users, without Bob, there'd be no PSB, PB, PBA, 2000, 2001, et.al.
So welcome back. But let's all cut the man some slack (I'm included). And though your argument could be the same as mine (that it was merely a question, not a criticism), many of these things have been answered before, and, as a teacher, I tend to do a lot of sighing and eye rolling when my students ask me, "How long is this paper supposed to be again?" (Every paper is the same length; it's written in the syllabus, yet someone asks every class--sometimes two people ask within an hour or minutes of each other!) So Dr. Bob may feel the same way (but be too civil to use eye rolling in his post!).
Anyway, just my take on it. You are your own person and so are free to ask what you will. This was just a friendly suggestion.
Were you able to meditate? Exercise? Take B vitamins? Please post your response on PSB! Thanks!
beardy : )>
Posted by Janelle on May 7, 2002, at 17:04:20
In reply to I think he's tired of being pestered. Yes. » Janelle, posted by beardedlady on May 7, 2002, at 5:27:01
This is the end of the thread.
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