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Posted by Alii on May 17, 2001, at 21:12:22
> > >If she is so knowledgable anyway.. and so rational, articulate.... why is she not well?< < <
Um, because she has disease? Gosh I can't believe this is being asked. Not everyone responds to the same treatment.
> > >There is so much out there to live..... so much..... try and get off the computer for a little while... maybe you won't even need so many drugs.< < <
So my grandmother with diabetes on medication who happens to use the Internet to socialize with the grandkids should just stop taking meds and get outside to enjoy life? Puhleese. This is a tired arguement. Take the hostility elsewhere.
--Alii
Posted by Mr.Spike on May 17, 2001, at 21:18:22
In reply to Re: Opiates, cowardice and screwing others up » Mr.Spike, posted by Alii on May 17, 2001, at 21:12:22
This really isn't meant to be hostility... I just don't get it. Drugs alone are never going to work. So this person with Diabetes.... does she at least DO something? Seriously... life is too short... and living it this way is bound to get her more depressed. You can defend that all you want. I know many seriously depressed people on AD's.... but also living a normal life.
> > > >If she is so knowledgable anyway.. and so rational, articulate.... why is she not well?< < <
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> Um, because she has disease? Gosh I can't believe this is being asked. Not everyone responds to the same treatment.
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> > > >There is so much out there to live..... so much..... try and get off the computer for a little while... maybe you won't even need so many drugs.< < <
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> So my grandmother with diabetes on medication who happens to use the Internet to socialize with the grandkids should just stop taking meds and get outside to enjoy life? Puhleese. This is a tired arguement. Take the hostility elsewhere.
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> --Alii
Posted by Mr.Spike on May 17, 2001, at 21:19:47
In reply to Re: Opiates, cowardice and screwing others up » Mr.Spike, posted by Alii on May 17, 2001, at 21:12:22
Hmmmmm..... now that I am looking at past posts hindsightedly.... you two are a lot alike. Hence the defense.
> > > >If she is so knowledgable anyway.. and so rational, articulate.... why is she not well?< < <
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> Um, because she has disease? Gosh I can't believe this is being asked. Not everyone responds to the same treatment.
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> > > >There is so much out there to live..... so much..... try and get off the computer for a little while... maybe you won't even need so many drugs.< < <
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> So my grandmother with diabetes on medication who happens to use the Internet to socialize with the grandkids should just stop taking meds and get outside to enjoy life? Puhleese. This is a tired arguement. Take the hostility elsewhere.
>
> --Alii
Posted by Alii on May 17, 2001, at 22:17:17
In reply to Re: Opiates, cowardice and screwing others up » Alii, posted by Mr.Spike on May 17, 2001, at 21:19:47
Mr. Spike,
I understand and agree that drug abuse is a terrible thing but what is abuse for one person is a saving grace for another. You, the HMOs, the Dalai Lama, Alan Greenspan---no one person, body, or authority knows everything about every other person which includes unique body chemistry. As I said in another post I haven't really read much of these latest fusses over "my medicine is better than your medicine."
As with anyone else on this board I merely offer my two cents.
--Alii
A person with depression has not chosen to have the disease. Just as one doesn't elect to mess with heart disease. I want to surf and swim and do all the outdoor activities that I used to do before this latest bout of depression. I get out and walk, do yoga, and keep my lungs functioning as best I can yet I still have depression. Bad. I still have suicide as the top option in my brain at most times. I, as almost all others here, aggressively seek treatment to get out of this hellish existence that depression is.
Please do not assume that because a person on this board has found efficacy with nontraditional medicine (Websters: 1 a : a substance or preparation used in treating disease b : something that affects well-being) that they are somehow the evil incarnate.
If you have had experiences in your family or within your close circle of friends with drug abuse I can understand being adamantly against any possible positive use for any substance that has been so detrimental in the past to a loved one.
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