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Posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 9:30:21
> dealing with particular posters
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> I hope you don't intend to encourage personal criticism of particular posters by other participants. I think that is a bad idea on any board. While I didn't agree with your decision to ban one poster and not to ban the other (both of whom had recieved 2 cautions from you in recent memory), do you really think a particular discussion will benefit anyone? I don't see how that is fair to the person who is not able to participate because of being banned. Remember even people who do not meet your civility standards may indeed be having crises which will not be helped by continuing criticism. If you feel unable to let someone stay on the board and recieve support, please at least do no further harm by attacking someone who is down.
> I also think it would be divisive to encourage complaints about particular posters. Maybe you could offer to recieve particular complaints by e-mail. A general discussion of the criteria you use to decide who goes and who stays might be of benefit to you if you are interested. But in the end it is your decision. I think it would be interesting to hear your ideas for dealing with suicidal posters.
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> Dasypodidae
>I'm trying to put this on the administrative board. Sorry if it doesn't get there.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2000, at 12:36:40
In reply to Problems with Particular Discussion-Dr Bob , posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 9:30:21
> > I hope you don't intend to encourage personal criticism of particular posters by other participants.
I do *not* want to encourage complaints, but they're inevitable, and, given that, I think it's better to have a separate place in which to discuss them. And civility is important here, too.
> > I don't see how that is fair to the person who is not able to participate because of being banned.
I see what you're saying, but it's *because* they weren't able to participate (in a civil way) that they were blocked in the first place.
> > I think it would be interesting to hear your ideas for dealing with suicidal posters.
What if you start with your ideas? :-)
Bob
Posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 13:12:02
In reply to Re: dealing with particular posters, posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2000, at 12:36:40
> > > I hope you don't intend to encourage personal criticism of particular posters by other participants.
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> I do *not* want to encourage complaints, but they're inevitable, and, given that, I think it's better to have a separate place in which to discuss them. And civility is important here, too.
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> > > I don't see how that is fair to the person who is not able to participate because of being banned.
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> I see what you're saying, but it's *because* they weren't able to participate (in a civil way) that they were blocked in the first place.
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> > > I think it would be interesting to hear your ideas for dealing with suicidal posters.
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> What if you start with your ideas? :-)Your board, Your responsibility!!! What I think doesn't make much difference does it? But for what it's worth:
You might start with this from the site Shar posted
http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/whattodo.htm
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You might think about how to deal with posts joking about suicide. For example pullmarine posted a Christmas parody including a loaded gun as a gift. I didn't say anything because of the hostile atmosphere surrounding "humour" on the board but as the page I posted the link to says, joking about suicide is a sign of being suicidal.
B Day also posted a "joke" to Hannah regaurding using a rope for a noose. Nothing was said in either instance.You might want to re-think your policy on how long to allow attacks against "victims" to be posted. I am thinking of Mark H's first cruel posts to Hannah for which you warned him. I think taking this so lightly is very likely to make people hesitant to reveal any vulnerabilities directly for fear of attack by the Blame the Victim faction. I think you might want to consider removing truly vicious posts such as Mark H's rather than leaving them. I did a search for "suicide" on Psychobabble and came up with yet another of his attacks on "Whining victims " in a response to someone who had posted about an overdose.
I think you might consider a positive intervention occasionally instead of only negative. For instance you might have remarked on Hannah's remarkable refusal to be drawn into Mark's provocative posts.
I think Hannah's posts to the Lumptonian thread were an attempt to join in the "fun". She was imitating the style of the posters. But if they (the posters) are truly offended, why not remove them too? If people are hurt, why keep the posts that hurt them on public display as permanent reminders of the pain it caused them?
So those are my ideas, what are yours?
In conclusion, I offer you support and encouragement and I wouldn't have your job for anything in the world! Good Luck
Dasypodidae
Posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 13:56:40
In reply to Re: dealing with particular posters, posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 13:12:02
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20000905/msgs/44710.html
The other post of Mark H's referred to eternal victims rather than whiney victims. I just read yet another post calling Hannah names on Psycho social babble. I think name calling should not be tolerated. but it is your call. I think the level of hostility has reached the unbearable level for me and I'm taking a break also. I think compassion should be considered in your definition of civility. Good Luck
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2000, at 23:59:20
In reply to Re: dealing with particular posters, posted by Dasypodidae on November 25, 2000, at 13:12:02
> you might have remarked on Hannah's remarkable refusal to be drawn into Mark's provocative posts.
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> I think Hannah's posts to the Lumptonian thread were an attempt to join in the "fun". She was imitating the style of the posters.> I think the level of hostility has reached the unbearable level for me and I'm taking a break also.
I'm sure Hannah appreciates your defense of her. Enjoy your break. If you return, please remember to be civil.
Bob
Posted by Dasypodidae on November 26, 2000, at 9:33:08
In reply to Re: dealing with particular posters, posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2000, at 23:59:20
> > you might have remarked on Hannah's remarkable refusal to be drawn into Mark's provocative posts.
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> > I think Hannah's posts to the Lumptonian thread were an attempt to join in the "fun". She was imitating the style of the posters.
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> > I think the level of hostility has reached the unbearable level for me and I'm taking a break also.
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> I'm sure Hannah appreciates your defense of her. Enjoy your break. If you return, please remember to be civil.
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> BobThanks for your encouragement. It's nice to be appreciated by anyone :) It's a defense of compassion and fairness as well as a defense of her. Though I think it is important not to lose sight of the individual. Good luck
Dasypodidae
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