Shown: posts 1 to 11 of 11. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 17, 2001, at 14:22:04
Any chance of a link to the article being discussed. I'd really like to read it.
Ta
Nikki
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2001, at 18:24:56
In reply to The guinea pig stuff...., posted by NikkiT2 on January 17, 2001, at 14:22:04
> Any chance of a link to the article being discussed. I'd really like to read it.
I think we need to wait for it to be published first! Then, if it's not available at their web site, you can be sure I'll try to get it here.
I'll be curious what everyone thinks... :-)
Bob
Posted by Noa on January 18, 2001, at 19:18:41
In reply to The guinea pig stuff...., posted by NikkiT2 on January 17, 2001, at 14:22:04
WHEN is it due out?
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2001, at 5:20:58
In reply to Re: link to the article, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2001, at 18:24:56
> I think we need to wait for it to be published first! Then, if it's not available at their web site, you can be sure I'll try to get it here.
It's there now. FYI, they want to charge me $250 to make it available here. I'm trying to see if I can negotiate some other arrangement...
Bob
Posted by Cam W. on January 23, 2001, at 7:05:10
In reply to Re: link to the article, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2001, at 5:20:58
> > I think we need to wait for it to be published first! Then, if it's not available at their web site, you can be sure I'll try to get it here.
>
> It's there now. FYI, they want to charge me $250 to make it available here. I'm trying to see if I can negotiate some other arrangement...
>
> BobDr.Bob - Tell them that you will lower the quality of their publication by no longer writing articles for them. Also, deny them access to your site (probably where they get their best info anyway).
I was going to spend the $28 US ($50 CDN + tax) to buy the article online, but if they won't release one article to the site that the article s written about, I doubt that this is a journal that I will subscribe to, or follow, regularily. Besides, who is going to use or read this article on this site unless: a) they saw it first in the journal and thus obviously have access to a subscription or, b) frequent this site (and we really do have to admit that not everyone online reads this site; contrary to what we think). I guess that I will check the two major university medical libraries in Alberta to see if they carry it and photocopy it for under $1 CDN.
I would say that I would give $25 US toward the posting of this article on PB, but unless they bring the price down, I don't think that we should have to pay that much for information about us.
Isn't there some way of posting this article that would make it difficult to print off and only allow it to be read at this site (eg make the background a lovely shade of burgundy - Napa Valley, 1988? - with dog-pee-in-snow yellow writing). The propeller-heads out there (Greg?) should have some ideas about this.
Don't cave on giving the money, yet Dr.B. We should have many lurking lawyers here who can help us get around copyright laws.
Eagerly awaiting the article, but not holding my breath - Cam
Posted by Rzip on January 23, 2001, at 7:29:02
In reply to Re: link to the article - That's silly » Dr. Bob, posted by Cam W. on January 23, 2001, at 7:05:10
Cam,
I think most of the large, private Universities will have on-line access to the magazine. You could print the article right off the computer. You can use the on-line magazine linkage from Dr. Bob's home page. That is one way.
Another way is the mail chain service. It can work something like this. For instance, Dr. Bob can mail one copy of the article to participant A. That participant can photocopy the article and mail it to participant B, C, and D. Those participants can mail it to E, F, and G. You get the idea. Just need a little bit of e-mail and address exchanges.
Hope that helps.
- Rzip
Posted by Rzip on January 23, 2001, at 7:46:08
In reply to Re: link to the article , posted by Rzip on January 23, 2001, at 7:29:02
The third way is to take up a collection. If nine or so people are willing to contribute $25, then Dr. Bob will be able to post the article.
- Rzip
Posted by Greg on January 24, 2001, at 14:26:28
In reply to Re: link to the article - That's silly » Dr. Bob, posted by Cam W. on January 23, 2001, at 7:05:10
Cam,
I'm going to purchase the article (as soon as I figure out how...) and I'll see that you get a copy of it.
Greg
> > > I think we need to wait for it to be published first! Then, if it's not available at their web site, you can be sure I'll try to get it here.
> >
> > It's there now. FYI, they want to charge me $250 to make it available here. I'm trying to see if I can negotiate some other arrangement...
> >
> > Bob
>
> Dr.Bob - Tell them that you will lower the quality of their publication by no longer writing articles for them. Also, deny them access to your site (probably where they get their best info anyway).
>
> I was going to spend the $28 US ($50 CDN + tax) to buy the article online, but if they won't release one article to the site that the article s written about, I doubt that this is a journal that I will subscribe to, or follow, regularily. Besides, who is going to use or read this article on this site unless: a) they saw it first in the journal and thus obviously have access to a subscription or, b) frequent this site (and we really do have to admit that not everyone online reads this site; contrary to what we think). I guess that I will check the two major university medical libraries in Alberta to see if they carry it and photocopy it for under $1 CDN.
>
> I would say that I would give $25 US toward the posting of this article on PB, but unless they bring the price down, I don't think that we should have to pay that much for information about us.
>
> Isn't there some way of posting this article that would make it difficult to print off and only allow it to be read at this site (eg make the background a lovely shade of burgundy - Napa Valley, 1988? - with dog-pee-in-snow yellow writing). The propeller-heads out there (Greg?) should have some ideas about this.
>
> Don't cave on giving the money, yet Dr.B. We should have many lurking lawyers here who can help us get around copyright laws.
>
> Eagerly awaiting the article, but not holding my breath - Cam
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2001, at 1:04:57
In reply to Re: link to the article - That's silly » Dr. Bob, posted by Cam W. on January 23, 2001, at 7:05:10
> I was going to spend the $28 US ($50 CDN + tax) to buy the article online, but if they won't release one article to the site that the article s written about, I doubt that this is a journal that I will subscribe to, or follow, regularily.
It's a good journal, don't just write it off because they're hard-nosed about their bottom line. :-)
Bob
PS: I'm still waiting to hear back from them again, so I assume they're considering a discount...
Posted by shar on January 25, 2001, at 9:11:25
In reply to Re: not subscribing to or following the journal, posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2001, at 1:04:57
I would never suggest that anybody who is richer than me buy a copy of the article, scan it into their computer, and post it on ASH, or Psycho Babble Open, or anywhere else, for that matter. Even if it was just for educational purposes and everyone got full credit, and the Journal name was displayed, etc.
That would be a terrible thing to do.
Shar> > I was going to spend the $28 US ($50 CDN + tax) to buy the article online, but if they won't release one article to the site that the article s written about, I doubt that this is a journal that I will subscribe to, or follow, regularily.
>
> It's a good journal, don't just write it off because they're hard-nosed about their bottom line. :-)
>
> Bob
>
> PS: I'm still waiting to hear back from them again, so I assume they're considering a discount...
Posted by Greg on January 25, 2001, at 9:15:38
In reply to Scan It, posted by shar on January 25, 2001, at 9:11:25
I would never be a part of anything like that either :)
Details to follow (did I say that outloud?...)
Greg
> I would never suggest that anybody who is richer than me buy a copy of the article, scan it into their computer, and post it on ASH, or Psycho Babble Open, or anywhere else, for that matter. Even if it was just for educational purposes and everyone got full credit, and the Journal name was displayed, etc.
>
> That would be a terrible thing to do.
> Shar
>
>
>
> > > I was going to spend the $28 US ($50 CDN + tax) to buy the article online, but if they won't release one article to the site that the article s written about, I doubt that this is a journal that I will subscribe to, or follow, regularily.
> >
> > It's a good journal, don't just write it off because they're hard-nosed about their bottom line. :-)
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > PS: I'm still waiting to hear back from them again, so I assume they're considering a discount...
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Administration | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.