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Posted by farshad on March 15, 2018, at 14:21:02
wellbutrin,selegiline,Armodafinil,Pramipexole & adderall when needed.
Posted by linkadge on March 15, 2018, at 16:54:56
In reply to is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 15, 2018, at 14:21:02
I would have to say no (just looking at the surface).
This is a LOT of stimulation. If you are currently not taking some of these meds DO NOT take all those meds at once.
All of these medications (to varying extents) inhibit the breakdown of dopamine and norepinephrine. They are acting via different pathways which could result in neurotransmitter excess.
Combining a MAO and DAT inhbitor could be very strong. Also, selegiline metabolises to a stimulant itself. Selegiline and wellbutring would potentiate the adderal.
Linkadge
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 6:51:06
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by linkadge on March 15, 2018, at 16:54:56
You are barking up the wrong tree. Now you can go hostile on me but i allow myself to say this. You wont even tell what you are trying to treat.
Posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:39:28
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 6:51:06
> You are barking up the wrong tree. Now you can go hostile on me but i allow myself to say this. You wont even tell what you are trying to treat.
>Im not trying to treat anything. I just want as much dopamine as possible . Becuase I believe dopamine is the key neurontransmitter to intelligence.
Im already taking wellbutrin,selegiline,Armodafinil and Pramipexole and its working great the only side effects are weight loss and I dont eat as much which I dont mind to be honest, eating is just a waste of time imo. But I feel great. I wanna add Adderall only when needed thats why I wanted to ask here if its safe.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 7:55:48
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:39:28
Hmm excess dopamine could lead to psychosis. And i dont think very many people have tried this combo.
Posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:59:54
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 7:55:48
> Hmm excess dopamine could lead to psychosis. And i dont think very many people have tried this combo.
What? so should I go off this combo? I have been on it for like 2 months now. Im feeling great its like an constant euphoria. I do have less empathy but its not too bad. Should I just avoid the adderall ?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 8:11:05
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:59:54
Hmm i would certainly watch out for symptoms like paranoia, suspiciousness and so on and personally i would not add Adderall. You have to think about what will be best for you long term, not just a few months of euphoria.
So you are kind of a lifestyle user? These are very potent drugs. I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in here. I have ruined myself with dopaminergic drugs. You may not have the same vulnerability but you must watch out and react when your state of mind goes in the direction of psychosis. Because then you have a real medical condition.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 16, 2018, at 8:26:14
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:59:54
>Should I just avoid the Adderall?
I would definitely avoid it. I think it could be a route to becoming very unwell.
Posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 8:29:50
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 8:11:05
> Hmm i would certainly watch out for symptoms like paranoia, suspiciousness and so on and personally i would not add Adderall. You have to think about what will be best for you long term, not just a few months of euphoria.
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> So you are kind of a lifestyle user? These are very potent drugs. I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in here. I have ruined myself with dopaminergic drugs. You may not have the same vulnerability but you must watch out and react when your state of mind goes in the direction of psychosis. Because then you have a real medical condition.
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Well I have been on this combo for almost 3 months now. Theres many reasons I choose these dopaminegeric drugs. Motivation, for depression, happiness, euphoria , focus etc . I can now read a book and understand it without getting bored. The effects have lessend a tiny bit becuase you get used to the effects so you dont feel them as much even tho they are there. But I can still tell the drugs working etc. and I know for a fact if I go off I will go into the bad state I was in before. Dopamine drugs have been a lifesaver for me. And I stay within the normal dosages with the drugs of course I dont go overboard.
I dont think the drugs have made be crazy, well I dont feel crazy or schizpoprehnic (I think high dopamine sometimes causes this). But I do feel less fear and empathy thats for sure. But its not too bad in that it causes problems.
Sleep is ok I sleep about 7 hours a day. I can see myself being on this combo for life unless some problems come up in the future . Which I doubt I mean they would have come by now , like 3 months is some time.
Posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 8:31:07
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo???? » farshad, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 16, 2018, at 8:26:14
> >Should I just avoid the Adderall?
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> I would definitely avoid it. I think it could be a route to becoming very unwell.
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unwell as in? disorders caused by too much dopamine?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 16, 2018, at 8:35:27
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 8:29:50
Being able to take dopaminergic drugs to increase motivation is a luxury i dont have. Dont go overboard.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 16, 2018, at 10:28:54
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 8:31:07
>unwell as in? disorders caused by too much dopamine?
I think you're at the point where more would not be better. Wouldn't want to induce a manic or psychotic episode, or something.
Posted by linkadge on March 16, 2018, at 15:57:34
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by farshad on March 16, 2018, at 7:39:28
Have you ever seen the posters that say...
"Drink coffee....do dumb things faster"
There is no neurotransmitter to intelligence.
Intelligence likely has more to do with the complexity & efficiency of the brain's synaptic connectivity than it does with the level of any one neurotransmitter.
Increasing any one neurotransmitter out of balance will likely only decrease the function of the brain. Too much dopamine can give insomnia, paranoia etc.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 17, 2018, at 7:39:49
In reply to Re: is this a Safe drug combo????, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 16, 2018, at 10:28:54
Also, not to mention that if you damage your brain, this is not going to help improve intellegence.
Linkadge
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