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Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:19:46
So i am suicidal right now. I guess its because the 4 hour job in the supermarket did not work out. It is way too boring for me to continue with this job. I had to torment myself.
I went from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg but i am still suicidal. It seems to have nothing to do with my meds. If anything maybe the Trazodone is giving me a paradoxical reaction now?
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:29:04
In reply to I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:19:46
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Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 7:40:34
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:29:04
I didnt take my supplements for a week. Magnesium, Selenium, Taurine, Threonine, Arginine and Proline.
Maybe i should take them.
Posted by beckett2 on October 27, 2017, at 9:38:19
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 7:40:34
For many, Lithium can stop suicidal thoughts rather quickly. If I recall correctly, I began to feel relief starting at 300 mg.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:45:33
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal » Lamdage22, posted by beckett2 on October 27, 2017, at 9:38:19
Hi beckett,
i take the Lithium Orotate in low dosage. I dont know if 300mg Carbonate would do more for suicidal thoughts than my small dose of lithium orotate does.
Anyway i took 1mg Lorazepam and the thoughts are gone. And i will take my supplements vigorously once i am back home on sunday. I am at my moms a few kilometers south. Until then i will take 1mg Lorazepam a day divided in two doses.
I think the supplements are helping.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:46:14
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:45:33
They were helping when i took them.
Posted by SLS on October 27, 2017, at 9:48:41
In reply to I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:19:46
> So i am suicidal right now. I guess its because the 4 hour job in the supermarket did not work out. It is way too boring for me to continue with this job. I had to torment myself.
>
> I went from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg but i am still suicidal. It seems to have nothing to do with my meds. If anything maybe the Trazodone is giving me a paradoxical reaction now?
>
>Trazodone is metabolized to 1-CPP in the body. People often react badly to 1-CPP.
Do you have anxiety or agitation?
I would discontinue the trazodone immediately and completely. See what happens. If trazodone is not the culprit, you can always go back to it.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:52:59
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on October 27, 2017, at 9:48:41
> Trazodone is metabolized to 1-CPP in the body. People often react badly to 1-CPP.
>
> Do you have anxiety or agitation?I do. What kind of witchcraft is Trazodone!??
> I would discontinue the trazodone immediately and completely. See what happens. If trazodone is not the culprit, you can always go back to it.
I respect Trazodone too much to do that. Going back on 45mg on monday. I dont have a scale here at my mother`s. The people from the withdrawal website recommended 5% steps instead of 10%. But they dont know that i am worse now that i have gone back from 45mg to 50mg.
I will tell them.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:58:39
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:52:59
It is mind boggling that people make themselves lab rats voluntarily.
Ive done it myself, so i understand.. But this has to come to an end.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 10:21:03
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal » Lamdage22, posted by beckett2 on October 27, 2017, at 9:38:19
I wouldnt take lithium on an ongoing basis because it really messes me up metabolically. Are the benefits immediate? Would 300mg as needed make sense?
Posted by joe f on October 27, 2017, at 12:57:07
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 10:21:03
why are you on both zyprexa and seroquil?
Posted by SLS on October 27, 2017, at 14:11:24
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 9:52:59
> > Trazodone is metabolized to 1-CPP in the body. People often react badly to 1-CPP.
> >
> > Do you have anxiety or agitation?
>
> I do. What kind of witchcraft is Trazodone!??
>
> > I would discontinue the trazodone immediately and completely. See what happens. If trazodone is not the culprit, you can always go back to it.
>> I respect Trazodone too much to do that.
Okay. Fair enough.
> Going back on 45mg on monday. I dont have a scale here at my mother`s. The people from the withdrawal website recommended 5% steps instead of 10%. But they dont know that i am worse now that i have gone back from 45mg to 50mg.
I don't believe that one size fits all with respect to taper schedules. I don't think that it is necessary to reduce the dosage of trazodone by only 10% every 4 weeks. Better safe than sorry, I guess.
Everyone is different regarding how fast they can taper any given drug.
My experience with trazodone was that I was able to discontinue 300 mg/day within two weeks. I was able to stop 75 mg/day within a few days. That's just me, of course.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on October 27, 2017, at 16:29:47
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by SLS on October 27, 2017, at 14:11:24
45mg --> 50mg of trazodone?
Do you mean 450mg --> 500mg?
5mg of trazodone is 1/10th of the smallest dose available. This is an incredibly small change. I suppose any reaction is possible, but you may want to look at what else may have change in this time.
Linkadge
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 2:48:10
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by linkadge on October 27, 2017, at 16:29:47
Thanks for your posts. Yes i think it is the lack of nutrients. I have had a blood test that showed i am deficient in certain nutrients.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 5:03:14
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 2:48:10
Today and yesterday i took hefty dosages of Magnesium, Selenium, Zinc and Threonine.
I feel wired in good way. I thought that these supplements would be without effect but i think i was wrong.
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 5:09:09
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by linkadge on October 27, 2017, at 16:29:47
> 45mg --> 50mg of trazodone?
> Do you mean 450mg --> 500mg?
Nope.
> 5mg of trazodone is 1/10th of the smallest dose available.Thats the whole point. I am reducing it by %10 every couple weeks. From 50 to 45; from 45 to 40,5; from 40,5 to 36,5 and so on.
Posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 8:20:50
In reply to I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 27, 2017, at 4:19:46
I doubt it.
4 hours a day isn't much. How about looking for another job?
Eric
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 8:28:49
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 8:20:50
> I doubt it.
>
> 4 hours a day isn't much. How about looking for another job?
>
> EricAbsolutely.
Posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 8:38:59
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 8:28:49
What are you good at?
Eric
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 8:39:59
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 8:38:59
Hi Eric, math and english. I am german;)
Posted by SLS on October 28, 2017, at 9:18:16
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 8:39:59
> Hi Eric, math and english. I am german;)
Your command of the English language is remarkable.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 9:20:49
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on October 28, 2017, at 9:18:16
thanks, Scott, :)
i could picture myself translating for a living. I will do some research regarding that tonight.
Posted by phidippus on October 28, 2017, at 11:41:06
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 8:39:59
You enjoy math? Look on Indeed.com and search math...
Eric
Posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 13:28:27
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on October 28, 2017, at 9:18:16
i enjoy languages more than math ;)
Posted by joe f on October 28, 2017, at 16:22:42
In reply to Re: I have gone from 45mg Trazodone to 50mg: sucidal, posted by Lamdage22 on October 28, 2017, at 13:28:27
are you on ssdi?
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