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Posted by bkva23 on January 1, 2016, at 12:49:07
Hello All ,
Ive posted here under various different names but usualy you can notice me by my horrid grammer.
Im not a fan to say the least of ssris or almost any form of AD out there so rather then say something bad i stick to what i know.
After horrid trials with the others i came across parnate.Reading reviews on it gave me for the first time a glimmer of hope.After going through hell i got it,and yess for the first time i felt alive again,however it was short lived so what i hope to do here is shine some light on my trials to how i personaly got this valuable drug to be my godsend.
As i stated the initial response wasnt long lived,but it was a response none the less so i wasnt gonna give up on it.I started a trial and error of coctails and doses of it that last me over a decade.
Im not gonna put you through that torture aside to say i tried EVERYTHING and nothing made the drug work like i needed.Little did i know the answers were simplier for me then i thought,they were out there published by docs and embedded back here in archives.Heres without going into a decade of misery is what i learned.
1.Parnate was bought by a lone chemisct so the pharm company glaxco at the time no nothing at all really on their drug,nothing.
2 It then led to no surprise that their official data sheets were and are a mess of misinfo in my opinion,misinfo thats stopping people from truly getting better.
3. As i stated you can find out there published info on more accurate info from docs who took the time to do actual trials.
4. Problem one the dose,in articles reading PARNATE HIGH DOSE should in my view actualy read PARNATE CORRECT DOSE.Depending on your weight and severity of your illness,a typical parnate dose should be again in my view NO LESS then 30 mg TWICE a day for a total of 60 mg.I for example take mine at 9 am and 4 pm.The single once a day dosing was not right for me especialy when you look at the very very short half life of parnate which i believe is approx 4 hours.
5. For bigger people as myself,or people really in trouble a higher dose can carefully be used,for me it meant 50 mg twice daily although cases reported have shown up to 200 mg daily.
6. This was step one,i still wasnt no where i needed to be.In comes the second easy to find published article,PARNATE AUGMENTED WITH PSYCHOSTIMULANTS.I had read it but just dident feel comfortable asking for it,so i continued to seek alternatives to get parnate to work.It was by chance i stumbled up the addition of very low dose adderall to my parnate that made me feel like i was taking a entirly different medication,my brain neuros lite up like a tree.I knew i finaly found what i needed.
7. My doc dident feel comfortable giving me adderall with it but he did allow low dose ritalin.Was it as robust,no but was it a zillion times worth it,YESS.It worked and continued to with no side effects whatsoever.The only side effect was i slowly got better and with the addition of the stimulant i noticed i dident need 50 mg anymore and i now take 40 mg am 30 mg pm.
So the two popular articles found out there by googling PARNATE HIGH DOSE PARNATE WITH STIMULANT held to be more true then i ever imagined.
Let me say i know people are touchy with maoi recomendations so let me state i camme to this with much reading and made my personal choice and im passing it along not recomending you go do anything without research and safety confindance.
I will say however i noticed no ill effects ever from either the higher dose parnate use of from a single day of combined stimulant use.
I am now in a decent remission this is what i take
9 AM 40 mg parnate,100 mg caffiene pure,small dose of ritalin.I actualy get calm from this and notice no overstimulation i cant explain what the caffiene does,its not to add a stimulant effect,jjust make the cocktail feel smoother.4:30 pm i repear the above.
Bedtime i take a combo of Gabenpentin Klonopin for sleep and also because i found first the two have an incredable synergy togther,second if i take them at night they carry over well through the next day leaving me with no anxiety.I have a anxiety disorder so to say i never find myself using a klonopin as needed from time to time would be a lie.
I find its been a pure lifesaver.
Anway i think thats enough for now,please chime in on how your feel about this post,bless.
Posted by SLS on January 1, 2016, at 14:07:44
In reply to Make Parnate work and work well, posted by bkva23 on January 1, 2016, at 12:49:07
Thank you so much for telling your story. I know it will help a great many people.
I hope to one day have my neurons light up the way yours have. I have very strong memories of what that felt like.
I am very happy for you. You certainly worked hard to find your healing. I wish you continued health and happiness.
- Scott
Posted by bkva23 on January 4, 2016, at 23:57:48
In reply to Re: Make Parnate work and work well » bkva23, posted by SLS on January 1, 2016, at 14:07:44
Scott im telling you both i and suzie notice the same effect,id imagine it would work for nardil as well.
Posted by SLS on January 5, 2016, at 6:43:56
In reply to Re: Make Parnate work and work well, posted by bkva23 on January 4, 2016, at 23:57:48
I've tried Parnate 150 mg/day combined with desipramine 200 mg/day and Ritalin. It was without effect. I also switched the Ritalin to Dexedrine and added bromocriptine and T4 (thyroxine).
I think my case is unusually difficult to treat. However, I'm sure your treatment regime would help many other people.
In my years of working with Parnate and doctors who specialized in its use, I think the PDR drug label recommends dosages that are too small for most people. I think the suggested range should be 40-80 mg/day.
The same is true of Nardil. I think its range should be 60-90 mg/day.
- Scott
Posted by PeterMartin on January 6, 2016, at 17:29:18
In reply to Make Parnate work and work well, posted by bkva23 on January 1, 2016, at 12:49:07
Aspartame :) posted a thread about that a long time ago. It's probably not smart but I swear a helps kick in my Marplan (maoi) ust a little....
Posted by bkva23 on January 6, 2016, at 19:57:44
In reply to Re: Make Parnate work and work well, posted by PeterMartin on January 6, 2016, at 17:29:18
I promise the addition of ritalin causes no unwanted effcts whatsoever
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