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Posted by MuseMemento on April 29, 2015, at 19:47:17
I'm in the process of titrating up on Clomipramine and will be taking 100 mg for the first time tonight, day 13 altogether but the fatigue has been absolutely overwhelming. It seems to be making my depression worse and I actually didn't shower for consecutive days for the first time in about a year. Is it worth trying to stick it out and titrating at a slower rate or should I already be thinking about throwing in the towel?
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 29, 2015, at 20:49:00
In reply to Clomipramine Fatigue, posted by MuseMemento on April 29, 2015, at 19:47:17
> I'm in the process of titrating up on Clomipramine and will be taking 100 mg for the first time tonight, day 13 altogether but the fatigue has been absolutely overwhelming. It seems to be making my depression worse and I actually didn't shower for consecutive days for the first time in about a year. Is it worth trying to stick it out and titrating at a slower rate or should I already be thinking about throwing in the towel?
Muse,
From what you have posted here, I think that you should consider to rid yourself of this drug. I base this on the chemical structure of the drug which is chlorinated Imipramine and the fact that the drug could induce a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others in the state of mind that you are in as that you are having your depression worsened while taking the drug. The literature does state that these drugs can worsen depression and induce suicidal ideation in particular in the stage that you are in. But there is great danger here to you. You see, if you stop the drug, you could go into a mind-altered state that is worse than you are in now and be compelled to kill yourself.
I know of a way for you to be freed from the captivity of this drug so that you would live and have life more abundantly. But due to a list of prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. hsiung, I am prevented from posting that here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here.
If you become persuaded to continue taking this drug, be prepared for the potential for the drug to induce life-ruining conditions and addiction and death.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 29, 2015, at 21:20:35
In reply to Lou's response-diduevrhavtutrytudecide » MuseMemento, posted by Lou Pilder on April 29, 2015, at 20:49:00
> > I'm in the process of titrating up on Clomipramine and will be taking 100 mg for the first time tonight, day 13 altogether but the fatigue has been absolutely overwhelming. It seems to be making my depression worse and I actually didn't shower for consecutive days for the first time in about a year. Is it worth trying to stick it out and titrating at a slower rate or should I already be thinking about throwing in the towel?
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> Muse,
> From what you have posted here, I think that you should consider to rid yourself of this drug. I base this on the chemical structure of the drug which is chlorinated Imipramine and the fact that the drug could induce a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others in the state of mind that you are in as that you are having your depression worsened while taking the drug. The literature does state that these drugs can worsen depression and induce suicidal ideation in particular in the stage that you are in. But there is great danger here to you. You see, if you stop the drug, you could go into a mind-altered state that is worse than you are in now and be compelled to kill yourself.
> I know of a way for you to be freed from the captivity of this drug so that you would live and have life more abundantly. But due to a list of prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. hsiung, I am prevented from posting that here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here.
> If you become persuaded to continue taking this drug, be prepared for the potential for the drug to induce life-ruining conditions and addiction and death.
> LouMuse,
Perhaps it will help you to decide to continue the drug or get it out of your body to know the chemical history of the drug. It is called a phenothiazine which were used to make insecticides and to kill parasitic worms in animals. The chemical killed the insect and worm by attacking the nerves of them inducing death. You could do a search and find the process that kills the insect and how the nerves are killed to stop the processes of life in the insect. This process is done in living things that have nerves such as humans. It has to do with blocking nerve chemicals so that impulses do not get to where they could have life, and so the insect dies. This process is well-known going back to the 1800's and developed mainly in Germany that became the world's largest chemical manufacturer. You could read about I.G. Farben and know a lot to help you decide if you want your body to be subjected to nerve agents that are used to kill and what they can do to you.
Lou
Posted by SLS on April 29, 2015, at 21:51:49
In reply to Clomipramine Fatigue, posted by MuseMemento on April 29, 2015, at 19:47:17
> I'm in the process of titrating up on Clomipramine and will be taking 100 mg for the first time tonight, day 13 altogether but the fatigue has been absolutely overwhelming. It seems to be making my depression worse and I actually didn't shower for consecutive days for the first time in about a year. Is it worth trying to stick it out and titrating at a slower rate or should I already be thinking about throwing in the towel?
I tend to think that things will only get worse at higher dosages and with continued treatment. I could be wrong. If you discontinue clomipramine, what are the alternative treatments that you are considering? If there are none, then I guess it makes sense to go up in dosage and hope for the best. I doubt very much that there are no alternatives, though.
By the way, the elements comprising clomipramine - like phenothiazines, oxygen, and DNA - are created from supernovae. This does not mean that breathing oxygen will cause your head to explode.
- Scott
Posted by MuseMemento on May 1, 2015, at 14:48:48
In reply to Re: Clomipramine Fatigue » MuseMemento, posted by SLS on April 29, 2015, at 21:51:49
Thanks, Scott. Yeah, I'll be discontinuing it immediately and returning to a regime that offered me the most relief until now with further tweaking to follow. I'm actually beginning memantine for OCD immediately.
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