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Posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 9:40:26
And i bet some of those "lasting successes" are placebo as well. Antipsychotics do something, Antidepressants are most effective at filling their creators wallets.
How can you keep looking for that pharmaceutical miracle?
We are not wired that way. There is alot more to mental health than a few neurotransmitters.How can you expect that this stuff will change anything long-term? Over and over and over again.
Yeah i trial those meds, too.. I cant see harm in doing so. Exept for MAOI which launched me into my first psychotic episode.
But i dont cling to the idea that i may have full remission. What is full remission? Happy all the time, successful all the time.. tons of friends and a wonderful romantic relationship?
Not needing any discipline? Not needing any social support? "Auto-mode"?It seems really unrealistic to me what some folks seem to seek in medication.
I just dont understand.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 9:51:57
In reply to Re, posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 9:40:26
Yeah, no more social anxiety... Ever thought that social anxiety makes sense?
Clinging to the idea that Nardil will fix me cost me more than it has given me with its effects.So now my attitude is "whatever maybe i will have a couple weeks of SOME relief". If it sucks, get off right away.
Not running around like a lunatic fixated on the idea that Nardil helped in any way or any of those other pills
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2014, at 9:53:06
In reply to Re, posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 9:40:26
I was happy and what I'd consider normal till had panic episode. For years I got back to same. Was the throid that changed it all. Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 10:00:33
In reply to Making a fortune off of your desperation, posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 9:51:57
Antidepressants have made ZERO difference in my life. If anything, it got worse.
Im trialing Stablon.. like "whatever" "dont care".
If it makes me worse in any way, its gone
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 10:08:27
In reply to Re: Re » Lamdage22, posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2014, at 9:53:06
Quite franly they did make it worse. Now i have a huge episode of loony toon to look back to in my life.
It didnt go unnoticed either.Clinging to the idea a pill will make you happy... i wouldnt advise that!
Think about it
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 1, 2014, at 14:25:37
In reply to Re: Re, posted by Lamdage22 on April 30, 2014, at 10:08:27
Its just all the struggling. I just wish id see more people get better.
I count more on good social support now. I have approached this the wrong way. Running away from everybody and try to be someone else with the "help" of meds.
I got pretty darn angry at my people.. And not only that, everything was fueled by Meds that made me feel different.
Including wrong accusations.Idk. I want to fix my relationships as much as possible before they are gone. I want to look back and say: Yeah those were my parents and i love them.
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 1, 2014, at 14:53:48
In reply to Sorry i didnt mean to be rude, posted by Lamdage22 on May 1, 2014, at 14:25:37
And quite frankly, i dont want to be the douche that f*ck*d up their lives and gave nothing back.
I mean seriously, maybe we all would do eachother a bigger favor by hanging out and talking about life in the social forum rather than talking about that xyz alpha beta epsylon rezeptor that might magically change our lives. After so many other approaches have failed.
Im not giving up meds. Im just alot more skeptical than i used to be. Maybe it helps, thats great. But if it dont there has to be an alternative. I am discouraged by meds and encouraged by how much social support makes a difference.
Why not hang out in the social forum and see how we can reconnect?
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 3, 2014, at 9:43:06
In reply to Re: Sorry i didnt mean to be rude, posted by Lamdage22 on May 1, 2014, at 14:53:48
> I mean seriously, maybe we all would do eachother a bigger favor by hanging out and talking about life in the social forum
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> I am discouraged by meds and encouraged by how much social support makes a difference.
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> Why not hang out in the social forum and see how we can reconnect?Indeed, why not? :-)
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20140502/msgs/1065160.html
Bob
Posted by kirkglen on May 3, 2014, at 10:55:06
In reply to Re: hanging out and talking about life, posted by Dr. Bob on May 3, 2014, at 9:43:06
Lamdage22
I have to agree on some of your thoughts. The big money makers, bigger penis, grow hair, mental illness. They all fall into the same wishes. Yet we still line their pockets knowing the odds.
BUT we also do not have a choice when one hurts. The best I can do is stay with my meds and do healthy things for my body, eat well, sleep,exercise. If I can do those 3 things at least I don't have to feel ill effects from them. Then whatever the meds do.....
I'm one of the very fortunate ones. I would not be 60 yrs. old if it wasn't for Nardil. From 22 yrs. old until @2004 I lived a pretty good life. Then the pharm had to take some "inactive" ingredients out of the formula. Apparently those ingredients weren't so inactive.
But I'm not going to surrender on meds as I "know" some are helped and this is an awesome place to communicate each ones success/failure.
What you share may benefit another so pls. continue to share as I believe one day the "sun is going to shine on you" and we'll all love to read that.
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