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Posted by joef on September 6, 2013, at 23:09:28
anyone with experience with the 2 and your thoughts
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 7, 2013, at 1:01:02
In reply to klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 6, 2013, at 23:09:28
Klonopin takes longer to kick in. When I took it (2 doses, about 8-12 hours apart), it would kinda kick in after 20mins and then completely after 1 hour. Made PRN impossible.
Ativan kicks in fast and doesn't last as long. I think daylong sedation requires 3 or 4 doses vs 2 for Klonopin. Its also high potency, but I think not quite as a high potency as Klonopin is.
Klonopin is apparently notorious for causing or worsening depression. That said, I read that all BZDs can cause depression. You can get anxiety in-between doses on any benzo, but since Ativan doesn't last as long, its probably more of an issue.
I've read that shorter acting benzos, over the long haul, sometimes result in more dosage increases. I don't know if that's true or not...seems like plenty of people have to ramp up Klonopin, too.
Good luck!
Posted by joef on September 7, 2013, at 6:08:57
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by Christ_empowered on September 7, 2013, at 1:01:02
what would you consider a high daily dose of Ativan......dr. gives me 3 daily...use 1.5 to sleep and 1 mg during day....worrying about going up to high.....not addicted...wondering about tolerance
Posted by Phillipa on September 7, 2013, at 9:54:41
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 7, 2013, at 6:08:57
When was on Ativan with high doses of luvox took 3-4mg I think. I guess at some point I just went back to Xanax. Phillipa
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 7, 2013, at 15:42:34
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan » joef, posted by Phillipa on September 7, 2013, at 9:54:41
if its just a 1-4 weeks thing, I wouldn't stress out. Take it as needed (Ativan is great as needed) and then when it's time to stop, do a gradual taper. Probably not a big deal.
Issues with Ativan and other benzos usually pop up after prolonged use. Some people take benzos everyday for decades and its fine. Some people go through hell after 1 year or so. Depends.
Posted by joef on September 7, 2013, at 19:51:44
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by Christ_empowered on September 7, 2013, at 15:42:34
been on Ativan for 14 years anywhere fron 2.0 to 2.5 daily
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2013, at 22:25:06
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 7, 2013, at 19:51:44
Joe 14 years and still working same as when started? Phillipa
Posted by joef on September 9, 2013, at 6:42:39
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan » joef, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2013, at 22:25:06
a little less effective.....not sure if I should up the dose to 3 or ask for klonopin
Posted by damnthislife on September 9, 2013, at 8:58:10
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 7, 2013, at 6:08:57
I personally LOVE Klonopin, but I cannot use it during the day (makes me sleepy and that is already one of my complaints from my depression).
I take .5mgs about 30 minutes before bed to ease my racing thoughts. If it's really bad, I will take 1mgs. I usually do not take anything on the weekends to give myself a break from it so I don't become use to it and need more for effect.
Posted by joef on September 9, 2013, at 12:56:02
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by damnthislife on September 9, 2013, at 8:58:10
think i'm gonna make a change to klonopin..Ativan and even 600 mg of tegretol just doesn't stop the racing thoughts...hope dr. will prescribe it for me
Posted by damnthislife on September 9, 2013, at 13:40:17
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 9, 2013, at 12:56:02
I do not see why not. Just start slow. See if .5mgs will do it for you. You can always go up. I like how it is long lasting and doesn't smack you down like xanax does.
Posted by Phillipa on September 9, 2013, at 20:06:01
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by damnthislife on September 9, 2013, at 13:40:17
Xanax used to just give me a feeling of ahhh I feel relaxed. I wish it still did. Now for some reason it also makes me tired? Phillipa
Posted by gadchik on September 17, 2013, at 19:04:37
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan, posted by joef on September 9, 2013, at 12:56:02
"I usually start with Klonopin if there are also racing thoughts or obsessing." This is from askdrjones.com I believe klonopin helps tremendously with racing thoughts, esp at bedtime.
Posted by gadchik on September 17, 2013, at 19:07:53
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan » damnthislife, posted by Phillipa on September 9, 2013, at 20:06:01
I had that aaahhh feeling first time I took klonopin too. Miss it, feel tired now too.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2013, at 21:09:49
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan » Phillipa, posted by gadchik on September 17, 2013, at 19:07:53
Really? I wonder why? I thought I was the only one? P
Posted by gadchik on September 18, 2013, at 6:09:09
In reply to Re: klonopin/ativan » gadchik, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2013, at 21:09:49
I shouldve said it makes me tired at night-good, but in the morning when i awake, i still feel tired. I have my coffee, green tea, chocolate and seems to help. I dont feel the need to nap so i must not be tired all day, and I hike 4 mi a day. It does still control racing thoughts. I wish u could feel that ahhh feeling everynight, but then that may be why some take too much. I know better and will not go down that road.
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