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Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 0:56:38
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell » Phillipa, posted by Mimi on July 27, 2011, at 0:36:41
No unfortunately but take low doses. Have hasimotos thyroiditis a big factor when all went downhill so to speak. You sound younger and with a life's plan. I'm much older. Phillipa
Posted by Mimi on July 27, 2011, at 0:59:38
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell » Mimi, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 0:56:38
> No unfortunately but take low doses. Have hasimotos thyroiditis a big factor when all went downhill so to speak. You sound younger and with a life's plan. I'm much older. Phillipa
Phillipa,
I am 51 and also have Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I take Synthroid for that. Do you still take psych meds?
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 27, 2011, at 7:42:55
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell » Lou Pilder, posted by Mimi on July 26, 2011, at 17:46:08
> > > Haven't been on Psycho-Babble in years. Ready to get off Seroquel. Have tried in the past but ran into trouble. Does anyone succeed in living w/out Seroquel? I'm on 25mg-50mg/night. I need help in getting this drug out of my life, and lord knows the pdocs do not specialize in helping folks off meds. Thanks for any input?
> >
> > mimi,
> > You wrote,[...off Seroquel..I need help...Thanks for any...].
> > I would like to help you be free from this drug. First, I would like for you to click on what will bring up another post from here. In tthat post is a link to a web site and if you put Serpquel in the box, you could see the chemicl cinstituants of tyhe drug. Then I could go on and with my knowledge of chemistry and {nerve agents}, we could see what this drug does at the molecular level and go froom there.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110418/msgs/984024.html
>
> Okay Lou,
> What do you know that can help me to withdraw from Seroquel. I neglected to say to Phillipa just now that I am down to 25mg per night of Seroquel. I want to be free of it! I promise I will check in with this website tomorrow and not disappear for several months. I am in a ripe time for change right now.
> Thank you in advance.
> MimiMimi,
You wrote,[....Okay Lou...what do you know...withdrawal from...I want to be free of it...].
There are two ways that I know of to withdrawal from these drugs. One is by human acheivement, the other by divine accomplishment.
I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me that could have the potential to save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition, yet this is a site for support and education. The education is controlled now by the members of the administration here, which could promote an indoctrination of the members here. There are numerous unresponded to requests and outstanding notifications from me to the administration here that if they were responded to, IMHO could have the potential to have members see for themselves some of what I think could save their lives and prevent others from being murderd by someone under the mind-altering effects of these drugs that IMHO have the potential to turn one into a mass-murderer by thinking that they are the only people that could have forgivness and eternal life as the administration here allows a request by me to remain outstanding that if answerd could determine as to if the administration is or is not sponsoring what is in the post as being supportive. You see, as long as this site leaves my requests outstanding, members could think that it is good for the community as a whole to allow the potential for others to think that the administartion considers the issue to be supportive here, and good for the community as a whole, where only those that (redacted by respondent) could have eternal life and forgiveness. With that type of mind-set being allowed, and the administration posts that they do not wait to act, and that one match could start a forest fire, then IMHO the foundation of Judaism can be thought by the members to be something that could cause harm to others, where I believe that it could save lives if I was allowed to post here from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me.
Day after day, night after night, people here are led in a direction by the administration controlling the content here. The direction that I could direct you to has been revealed to me to open the Gate to life and life more abundantly without chemicals put in your system that act on the nerves. And if I was permitted to post here the historical development of nerve agents, without any prohibition, and how they were used from 1900 to 1945, I think members could think differently about allowing these chemicals to act on your nervous system and then those that killed themselves by the nature that some of these drugs could increase suicidal thinking could still be alive. And those that were victims of mass-murder from a murderer that was taking a mind-altering drug, could still be alive. And those with dyskinesia and ataxia could not have such a life-ruining condition. And those that have written here that they had their humanity taken away by these drugs and are like lifeless , sex-ruined , brain-blunted of their former thinking ability, shells of their former selves, could have their humanity as it was from their state before they were given the drugs. I am pleased that you want to rid yourself of this drug. But I am prohibitd here from posting what has been revealed to me that comes from a Jewish perspective. If there is a Day that those that are prohibiting me from posting this here will be a day that they are to be accountable for their keeping others from hearing me, then they will explain their excuse, if any, to someone Greater than me about that they think that they were doing what could be good for humanity, as being as they write to be good for the community as a whole by prohibiting me from including the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me in what I could post here.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 19:29:03
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell, posted by Mimi on July 27, 2011, at 0:59:38
Mimi yes been on benzos for 41 years low dose at night .5xanax, l0mg valium, and 50mg of luvox. Just can't seem to get off the luvox especially. Thinking after all these years that the synthroid doesn't work right for me. Some bioidentical hormone creams also doc prescribed. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 19:30:16
In reply to Lou's reply-lheykvphir » Mimi, posted by Lou Pilder on July 27, 2011, at 7:42:55
Lou do you read admin? If so that might answer your question? Phillipa
Posted by Mimi on July 27, 2011, at 19:37:57
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-lheykvphir » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 19:30:16
> Lou do you read admin? If so that might answer your question? Phillipa
Thanks, Phillipa!
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 27, 2011, at 20:17:59
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-lheykvphir » Phillipa, posted by Mimi on July 27, 2011, at 19:37:57
> > Lou do you read admin? If so that might answer your question? Phillipa
>
> Thanks, Phillipa!
>
> Phillipa and Mimi,
It is written by Phillipa the above with Mimi posting a thanks to Phillipa.
I am unsure as to what is wanting to mean by both of you. If you both could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. What is the question that might be a answerd?
B. Could you post a link to it if there is a question of mine answerd?
C. Are you aware of the subject post in my post that I am asking Mr. Hsiung to post his answer as to if the statement in question is supportive or not?
D. If not, here is the link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/977439.html
E. After reading what is in the link, if you do so, is the question from me to Mr. Hsung answerd by him on the admin board? (is the statement in question supportive?)
F. What is the point that you are trying to make , if there is one, if there is not an answewr from Mr. Hsiung to me concerning the isssue here?
G. For Mimi: What are you thanking Phillipa for if the question from me to Mr. Hsiung is not answerd?
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 21:54:34
In reply to Lou's reply/response-obphu » Mimi, posted by Lou PIlder on July 27, 2011, at 20:17:59
He doesn' seem to have been heard from or seen since March. Phillipa
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 28, 2011, at 6:40:07
In reply to Re: Lou's reply/response-obphu » Lou PIlder, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 21:54:34
> He doesn' seem to have been heard from or seen since March. Phillipa
Phillipa,
The post in question here was posted by me in January, 2011.
But that is not the only post in question. There are questins by me to Mr. Hsiung that are months and years outstanding.
I am unsure as to what point, if any, you are trying to make here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accoringly.
A. Are you aware that Mr. Hsiung has a manifesto here in that in his TOS and other posts by him he gives his intentions, motivations, etc?
B. Are you aware that his manifesto states that he does what in his thinking will be good for the community as a whole? (and to try and trust him)
C. Can ,in your opinion, others trust him that since he states that support takes precedence, that the post in question has the statement in question to be considerd to be supportive by Mr. Hsiung since it is allowed unsanctioned?
D. In your opinion, could a person taking mind-altering drugs be swayed to think that it is OK to think of Jews and others that give worshhip and service to a God that gives forgivness and eternal life by another means other than the claim in the statement in question that states that { only [redacted by respondent]) to have the potential to give some people [false] feelings of superiority? And could then those feelings be acted out by commiting mass-murder?
E. Could you go to the admin board and post from your perspective in the thread that has the post in question? If you could, then I could post my answer to you there.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2011, at 21:45:30
In reply to Lou's reply-nhghmo » Phillipa, posted by Lou PIlder on July 28, 2011, at 6:40:07
Lou sorry no the past is the past and what Dr Bob does is his agenda. I or other babblers are in no way responsible for what he does or does not do. He just isn't here. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2011, at 6:42:35
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-nhghmo » Lou PIlder, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2011, at 21:45:30
> Lou sorry no the past is the past and what Dr Bob does is his agenda. I or other babblers are in no way responsible for what he does or does not do. He just isn't here. Phillipa
Phillipa,
I do not know what you are wanting to mean by your statements above here, in particular but not limited to {the past is the past}.
The past is the past but that does not annul the fact that there are requests from me in the present to Mr. Hsiung and his deputy here that are outstanding. And that does not prevent one from reading posts here, right now, that could have the potential IMHO to arouse antisemitic feelings that are being allowed here to remain without my requests being responded to by the administration, which I think if answerd by them could head off Jews and others that give worship and service to a God that gives forgivness and eternal life in another way other that the claim in question here from being a victim of antisemitic or anti other violence, if responded to. The posts in question could then lead others to think IMHO that what is in question that I think could arouse antisemitic feelings, and also anti Islamic feelings and anti others feeling by the nature that there is a claim that the only (redacted by respondent) and could have the potential to be considerd to be supportive by Mr. Hsiung as my question to him concerning that is outstanding for months.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2011, at 6:45:40
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-nhghmo » Lou PIlder, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2011, at 21:45:30
> Lou sorry no the past is the past and what Dr Bob does is his agenda. I or other babblers are in no way responsible for what he does or does not do. He just isn't here. Phillipa
Phillipa,
I do not know what you are wanting to mean by your statements above here, in particular but not limited to {the past is the past}.
The past is the past but that does not annul the fact that there are requests from me in the present to Mr. Hsiung and his deputy here that are outstanding. And that does not prevent one from reading posts here, right now, that could have the potential IMHO to arouse antisemitic feelings that are being allowed here to remain without my requests being responded to by the administration, which I think if answerd by them could head off Jews and others that give worship and service to a God that gives forgivness and eternal life in another way other that the claim in question here from being a victim of antisemitic or anti other violence, if responded to. The posts in question could then lead others to think IMHO that what is in question that I think could arouse antisemitic feelings, and also anti Islamic feelings and anti others feeling by the nature that there is a claim that the only (redacted by respondent) and could have the potential to be considerd to be supportive by Mr. Hsiung as my question to him concerning that is outstanding for months.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on July 29, 2011, at 21:18:52
In reply to Lou's reply-ehkpsesoaree » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2011, at 6:45:40
What do the initials signify to you of the title you have changed the thread too. I was under the impression that a poster would like her questions about seroquel to be answered as this is the med board or is it faith and I"m confused. It happens. Phillipa ps you get up early
Posted by Mimi on July 29, 2011, at 21:55:02
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell » Mimi, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2011, at 19:29:03
> Mimi yes been on benzos for 41 years low dose at night .5xanax, l0mg valium, and 50mg of luvox. Just can't seem to get off the luvox especially. Thinking after all these years that the synthroid doesn't work right for me. Some bioidentical hormone creams also doc prescribed. Phillipa
Phillipa,
Oh, do you have trauma issues? What is luvox? I'm not familiar with that one. I take synthroid, too. (I may have already said that.)
Mimi
Posted by Mimi on July 29, 2011, at 22:02:13
In reply to I'm back to keep up the conversation » Phillipa, posted by Mimi on July 29, 2011, at 21:55:02
Phillipa,
I'm on day three of 12.5mg. of Seroquel, down from 25mg. So far so good. It's good to be more present in the world. I'm transitioning with the use of Bach flower essences, mixed especially for this situation. Things are looking up. A person does not need to be drugged for life.
Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2011, at 22:05:25
In reply to My withdrawal status, posted by Mimi on July 29, 2011, at 22:02:13
Hi Mimi luvox is the shortest half life of all the SSRI's orignally for OCD but in Europe approved for depression also. I just now feel wierd with the synthroid and benzos when wake late in morning. My cortisol level was low so will test again with next synthroid. But something Is Happening with the luvox, forgot 2.5 lexapro, .5 xanax and less than l0mg of valium. No idea what. Glad the taper on seroquel is going well and you are down to 12.5 mg Phillipa
Posted by Mimi on July 31, 2011, at 6:32:01
In reply to Re: My withdrawal status » Mimi, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2011, at 22:05:25
Phillipa,
Why do you take the benzos? Is your synthroid level too high?
Mimi
Posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2011, at 20:07:19
In reply to Re: My withdrawal status » Phillipa, posted by Mimi on July 31, 2011, at 6:32:01
41 years of benzos a long time and still have intolerable anxiety but have to live with it. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on August 1, 2011, at 10:31:06
In reply to My withdrawal status, posted by Mimi on July 29, 2011, at 22:02:13
> Phillipa,
> I'm on day three of 12.5mg. of Seroquel, down from 25mg. So far so good. It's good to be more present in the world. I'm transitioning with the use of Bach flower essences, mixed especially for this situation. Things are looking up. A person does not need to be drugged for life.Wow. This is rocking good news.
Best to you!
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 1, 2011, at 21:17:31
In reply to Re: Lou's response-pseairhoquell » Lou Pilder, posted by Mimi on July 26, 2011, at 17:46:08
> > > Haven't been on Psycho-Babble in years. Ready to get off Seroquel. Have tried in the past but ran into trouble. Does anyone succeed in living w/out Seroquel? I'm on 25mg-50mg/night. I need help in getting this drug out of my life, and lord knows the pdocs do not specialize in helping folks off meds. Thanks for any input?
> >
> > mimi,
> > You wrote,[...off Seroquel..I need help...Thanks for any...].
> > I would like to help you be free from this drug. First, I would like for you to click on what will bring up another post from here. In tthat post is a link to a web site and if you put Serpquel in the box, you could see the chemicl cinstituants of tyhe drug. Then I could go on and with my knowledge of chemistry and {nerve agents}, we could see what this drug does at the molecular level and go froom there.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110418/msgs/984024.html
>
> Okay Lou,
> What do you know that can help me to withdraw from Seroquel. I neglected to say to Phillipa just now that I am down to 25mg per night of Seroquel. I want to be free of it! I promise I will check in with this website tomorrow and not disappear for several months. I am in a ripe time for change right now.
> Thank you in advance.
> MimiMimi,
YOu wrote,[...OK lOu, whjat do you know that could help me withdrawal from Seroquel...I want to be free from it...].
I could tell you what I know that could make you free from this drug. In order for me to do that, I would need:
A. For you to post here that you are willing to:
1. post here that you will be a willing participant in the discussion.
2. understand that the Rider on the White Horse is not Christiandom's Jesus
3. understnad that I have prohibitions here that could keep you from knowing what could have the potential to help you rid yourself of the drug sooner if I did not have the prohibitions here from the administration.
4. understand that what you will read, if we have the discussion, is about birds
5. understand that if we have such a discussion that there will be something that you will take each day.
6. understand that what I will be saying will come from a Jewish perspective.
Lou
Posted by Mimi on August 1, 2011, at 21:57:18
In reply to Re: My withdrawal status » Mimi, posted by floatingbridge on August 1, 2011, at 10:31:06
Thank you, floating bridge!
Posted by Mimi on August 3, 2011, at 18:19:36
In reply to Re: My withdrawal status » floatingbridge, posted by Mimi on August 1, 2011, at 21:57:18
Ahhhhhhh. Did not sleep a wink last night after I cut the Seroquel to 6.25mg. Today was very difficult to live through. No sleep equals lack of ability to cope with good humour. Did make it through work though, only due to strength of character. I cannot tolerate another night of not sleeping!!!
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 3, 2011, at 18:40:12
In reply to Help! I've hit the Wall., posted by Mimi on August 3, 2011, at 18:19:36
> Ahhhhhhh. Did not sleep a wink last night after I cut the Seroquel to 6.25mg. Today was very difficult to live through. No sleep equals lack of ability to cope with good humour. Did make it through work though, only due to strength of character. I cannot tolerate another night of not sleeping!!!
Mimi,
You wrote,[..I can not tolerate another night of not sleeping...] There are numerous things like insomnia and other greater or lesser things that one experiances when they reduce the dosage of a psychotropic drug. And all those things have the potential to go on and on for years. A lot of people kill themselves during the withdrawal phase. Your statement,{I can not tolerate} could have the potential for others to think that you could kill yourself.
Now others could tell you to take this drug or that drug ect, but they might not know that another drug could induce a mind-alterd state for you to want to kill yourself or others.
You see, your body is reacting from the drug. Could not another drug, even one that induces a hypnotic state, induce even a more danagerous reaction?
If someone tells you to take a sleeping pill,{redacted by respondent}
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2011, at 21:40:36
In reply to Help! I've hit the Wall., posted by Mimi on August 3, 2011, at 18:19:36
Mimi so sorry plan for tonight? Phillipa
Posted by Mimi on August 4, 2011, at 22:31:36
In reply to Re: Help! I've hit the Wall. » Mimi, posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2011, at 21:40:36
> Mimi so sorry plan for tonight? Phillipa
My post last night misfired and doesn't appear here. In any case, I went back up to 12.5mg. on the Seroquel. Had a better day today. I'll stay at that level for awhile. Taking it slower.
Mimi
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