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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 13, 2011, at 21:52:03
It is 9:37pm central standard. Ok, I've basically repeated my posts about not being treated correctly by my doctor. The one person I hate is my doctor because she will not choose treatments ebcause im an addict. Now most of you are thinking RJ is after stimulants and will stop at nothing to get them. That is true. BUT i don't get them through a doctor and I have no desire to even work with this case because the doctor wants me off meds. She just sits there and argues all the time about why should I take medication. Now, the easy way is to say : um, doctor im leaving because you will not give me the correct treatment for my condition. But it's not that way. My MOTHER has control over alot of this and I can't even fuction to get a job becausae im disabled. I can't get any strattera, wellbutrin, parnate. I've already begged this doctor to prescibe them and will not do it and she very angry at me when I ask her about medications. She does absolutely nothing.
Listen....I may bring her here to this site and ask maybe some fellow babblers to give her suggestions but she is going to do what she thinks is best. It's just im so miserable with being iwth this doctor. I mean Strattera is the miracle because I know i never am going to be prescibed stimulants anymore and that makese me so f*ck*ng depressed I can't function and taht IS what is making me like this, Now the normal way would be a doctor would give me an alternative medication. This doctor doesnt try other medication she sits there on here f*ck*ng *ss and bitches about whats wrong with me asking my mother.
I'm really really REALLY not looking forward to living without any thing to help. The sh*t I take doesnt f*ck*ng work.
I don't have enought will power.
Matt
Posted by floatingbridge on June 13, 2011, at 22:06:34
In reply to Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 13, 2011, at 21:52:03
Matt, you may have explained this already and I missed it.
Why does your mom have so much power over your treatment?
Does anyone dispute your adhd (is it)?
I know you know there is adhd treatment for former abusers--just meaning those at risk.
I really don't see how Strattera can be abused.
I'm so sorry. Do you think getting your doctor onboard here is wise? I ask because I'm not sure this board will have much influence on her, and then you might also be losing a private venue here. At least you have friends here and can vent.
Please don't put yourself down, Matt, like saying things about your willpower. To me that sounds like someone else talking about you. Something someone said to you. It's not true.
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Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 13, 2011, at 22:23:20
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need.... » rjlockhart04-08, posted by floatingbridge on June 13, 2011, at 22:06:34
Your relationship with your doctor is private, the doctor cant tell your mother about your condition/treatment without your permission - remind her of that.
Then ask for a second oppinion from another doctor in the practice.
Even if strattera cant be abused, maybe the doctor doesnt think its right for you - maybe ask about a trial of desipramine or nortriptyline? Dont go in demanding pills and such, it puts a doctor immidiatly on their guard.
As a last resort, you can also source non addictive meds via the internet
Posted by morgan miller on June 14, 2011, at 3:41:21
In reply to Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 13, 2011, at 21:52:03
Matt, what about an SSRI? Do they help at all? I can't see how they would be contraindicated to addiction.
Posted by phillipa on June 14, 2011, at 11:33:09
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by morgan miller on June 14, 2011, at 3:41:21
Matt not being mean but time to cut the Apron strings so to speak and advocate for you. Phillipa
Posted by Christ_empowered on June 14, 2011, at 14:26:50
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by phillipa on June 14, 2011, at 11:33:09
dude, when parents are in charge of your mental health, they always screw it up. When I was 19-20, I lived at home and my parents made me see the most asinine, incompetent therapist ever. They liked him for some reason, at the time. Years later--they see my point. When I was hospitalized, I asked them to use their influence to get me a new shrink. They thought I needed a controlling douche bag (OK, not the terms they used, but you get where I'm going with this). Years later...they see my point.
If you can't move out yet or get your own doc, at least stop putting up with this one. I mean, she sounds like a bully, and you (or your parents) pay her for this crap "treatment." All she does, it sounds like, is treat you like a junkie. That's ridiculous. If you need prescriptions, go to a family doctor. You don't need some self-important, unhelpful shrink talking down to you and putting you high dose neuroleptics and wasting time and money.
Even the shrinks will respect you. I had this one shrink who prescribed me lots of Adderall but wouldn't give me benzos ("too addictive"--nice logic, right?). Anyway, I ended up being hospitalized and taken off the Adderall b/c I went nuts. She wanted me to do drug test and take depakote, and I walked out--I just plain refused to play that game, because I figured she'd just treat me like a drug abuser (kind of like your shrink treats you). 2 1/2 years later, I had to go back to her b/c the mental hospital I was locked in for a manic psychotic episode called her (God only knows why). This time around, we got along. She took me seriously. She gave me a couple months worth of Klonopin and sleeping pills.
There's a lot of bullying and name-calling built into the psychiatric system. If you stand up to them, they get pissed, but if you keep doing it, they'll start working with you and drop all the BS.
I think you should try to stop going to this doc, stop thinking about stimulants and your add/adhd, talk to general practitioner about setting up a more reasonable med combo (or taper off if they're really not helping), and live your life. Work on getting a job, going to school, making friends, whatever. Negotiate a better set-up with your parents.
I wish you luck, but you have to realize that you a) are capable of changing your life and b)are, at the end up the day, responsible for creating and living a productive, meaningful life. No shrink or amphetamine can do that for you, as I'm sure you're aware.
Posted by emmanuel98 on June 14, 2011, at 19:06:17
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by Christ_empowered on June 14, 2011, at 14:26:50
I've said this before, but I'll say it again. Have you considered AA/NA meetings. Other addicts can really understand and help you with your obsessive thoughts about stimulants. They can help you assess your life and your situation and improve it. It's a great way to meet people and develop strong emotional connections independent of your family and mother.
Posted by zonked on June 15, 2011, at 0:31:24
In reply to Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 13, 2011, at 21:52:03
Matt,
If I were in your situation, I would probably do anything I could to get out of it.
I am not being critical - just inquisitive - but why does your mother control so much of your life? Is it because you still live at home? Is there any way you could save some money and get away from your mom somehow?
If this woman isn't helping you, maybe you should get as far away from your mom as possible and somehow see a new doctor. Do you have a friend you could stay with? Do you know how your health coverage works (if you have it) or what's available in your area to people without insurance?
Do you have your insurance card? Could you call another doctor's office or the 800 number on the back of your card to get a referral? If you're over 18, your mom doesn't have a right to your health information unless you have signed consent forms--unless she is legally your conservator.
This is critical stuff - you need to know what your options are, and what steps you can take to get out of the mess you're in.
If you don't have any insurance coverage:
In the US, you can call 211 from any phone to get in touch with referrals to social services. This may include doctors or psychiatric services.You're an adult, man - get out from under your Mom's influence if at all possible; and if you can't, start stashing away bits of cash until you can. It sounds like that's the limiting factor for you. Someone (an insurance company, the government, or your parents) appears to be wasting money sending you to this doctor and filling drugs that don't work for you! That *really* sucks.
-z
Posted by sigismund on June 15, 2011, at 2:18:19
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need.... » rjlockhart04-08, posted by zonked on June 15, 2011, at 0:31:24
Matt, you want amphetamine. Fair enough, I guess.
Either you can get it, or you can't.
But why should you be taking all this Prozac and Zyprexa for so little benefit?
You have it in your power to stop taking that over time.
Then you may feel strong enough to consider whether you need the amphetamine.
When you feel terrible all the time, of course you want something to make you feel better.
Posted by Zyprexa on June 15, 2011, at 5:16:55
In reply to Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 13, 2011, at 21:52:03
Dude, your in withdraw from the adderal and nothing else will fill that void. Its not the doctor. She just hopes you will get over the addiction. I'm not going to argue that you don't need some thing for the ADD, and maybe strattera would help. Why don't you ask your doctor why she won't go along with that one? Find out what she is thinking. Your not a drug addict and its not your foult that they put you on the adderall to begin with. 'but now you are hooked and it may take years for you to get over the adderall if ever. I wish I could help you but that is the way it is.
Posted by Phillipa on June 15, 2011, at 19:23:25
In reply to Re: Going with out alot of medications I need...., posted by Zyprexa on June 15, 2011, at 5:16:55
Matt what Zyprexa says is true. Are you attending your meetings? Phillipa
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