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Posted by Michael Bell on May 17, 2010, at 22:53:59
Hi, I am going back and forth in my mind whether to add Nardil to my Risperdal regimen. The Risperdal is pretty helpful with anger/frustration issues as well as with social paranoia. But I wonder if adding Nardil will have an augmenting effect and really diminish the social phobia even more. Any takers?
Posted by angels78 on May 18, 2010, at 0:09:25
In reply to Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT?, posted by Michael Bell on May 17, 2010, at 22:53:59
What mg of nardil are you on?
Posted by Michael Bell on May 18, 2010, at 7:05:29
In reply to Re: Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT? » Michael Bell, posted by angels78 on May 18, 2010, at 0:09:25
> What mg of nardil are you on?
Hi I'm not on Nardil yet. I'm trying to decide whether to add Nardil to my Risperdal.
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2010, at 11:11:09
In reply to Re: Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT? » angels78, posted by Michael Bell on May 18, 2010, at 7:05:29
Are you depressed? Wouldn't that be a criteria? Phillipa
Posted by julie1977 on May 19, 2010, at 4:54:57
In reply to Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT?, posted by Michael Bell on May 17, 2010, at 22:53:59
I added Nardil to olanzapine and acheived remission from treatment resistant depression. THey do seem to work synergistically.
Posted by stargazer2 on May 19, 2010, at 20:50:29
In reply to Re: Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT?, posted by julie1977 on May 19, 2010, at 4:54:57
Julie, can you elaborate on your past and current treatment of TRD and what is working, doses, how long, any other information you can advise for those of us with TRD. Thanks for any insight you can share.
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Posted by julie1977 on May 21, 2010, at 4:03:37
In reply to Re: Does anyone take NARDIL /Julie1977, posted by stargazer2 on May 19, 2010, at 20:50:29
I have been through SNRI, SSRI, Tricyclics, RMAOI, NASSA, Lamotrigine. All in all about fifteen different drugs in the last twelve years. My diagnosis is Double Depression (Dysthymia with episodes of Major Depression). I would say i'm the most stable I have ever been in the last twelve years. I added Olanzapine to moclobemide about two years ago, 5mg Olanzapine. I immediately noticed an end to the constant negative ruminations I had (by the way, I found moclobemide to be useless), which was a relief. I came off moclobemide and went onto Nardil 60mg (titrating upward to this dose). After a couple of weeks I had the delicious side effect of Euphoria, this lasted about a week. Two years later and the nardil plus Olanz keeps me steady and away from major depression, I still have off days but no longer have near constant dysthymia.
(just having some off days at the moment actually).
Posted by CrAzYmEd on May 23, 2010, at 7:27:19
In reply to Re: Does anyone take NARDIL plus ATYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOT? » angels78, posted by Michael Bell on May 18, 2010, at 7:05:29
Taking antipsychotics for anxiety is a bad idea, unless you want to risk tardive dyskinesia (wich my mum recently got too, she looks like she has parkinson).
Tardive dyskinesia and new antipsychotics.
Correll CU, Schenk EM.The Zucker Hillside Hospital, North Shore Long Island Jewish Health System, Glen Oaks, NY 11004, USA. ccorrell@lij.edu
Abstract
PURPOSE OF REVIEW: To provide an update on tardive dyskinesia rates in patients treated with first-generation or second-generation antipsychotics in studies published since the last systematic review in 2004. RECENT FINDINGS: Across 12 trials (n = 28 051, age 39.7 years, 59.7% male, 70.9% white, followed for 463 925 person-years), the annualized tardive dyskinesia incidence was 3.9% for second-generation antipsychotics and 5.5% for first-generation antipsychotics. Stratified by age, annual tardive dyskinesia incidence rates were 0.35% with second-generation antipsychotics in children, 2.98% with second-generation antipsychotics versus 7.7% with first-generation antipsychotics (P < 0.0001) in adults, and 5.2% with second-generation antipsychotics versus 5.2% with first-generation antipsychotics (P = 0.865) in the elderly (based almost exclusively on one retrospective cohort study). In four adult studies (n = 2088, age 41.2 years, 71.2% male, 62.0% white), tardive dyskinesia prevalence rates were 13.1% for second-generation antipsychotics, 15.6% for antipsychotic-free patients, and 32.4% for first-generation antipsychotics (P < 0.0001). SUMMARY: Current evidence supports a lower tardive dyskinesia risk for second-generation antipsychotics than for first-generation antipsychotics. Tardive dyskinesia incidence was higher with second-generation antipsychotics than previously reported, possibly due to recent studies with relatively short mean durations and use of nonstandard tardive dyskinesia definitions.Also, the dopamine increase by nardil contibutes to its anxilytics effects.
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