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Posted by Negcreep on May 22, 2009, at 7:56:32
Anyone heard of Afobazol? A new (non-benzodiazepine) anti anxiety drug available OTC in Russia?
Comparable efficacy to Diazepam without any of the side effects or any addiction/withdrawal. Sounds good eh? Maybe too good to be true...I shall be investigating further no doubt...
Neg
Posted by Phillipa on May 22, 2009, at 12:06:14
In reply to Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on May 22, 2009, at 7:56:32
Neg follow that board. I think my computer had a problem with that URL? How can something comparible to valium be over the counter don't get it? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 22, 2009, at 12:08:37
In reply to Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on May 22, 2009, at 7:56:32
Neg url works on babble. But what it doesn't say is it a drug, herb, vitamin? Leaves me confused? Any idea of what class it fits into Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on May 22, 2009, at 22:07:06
In reply to Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on May 22, 2009, at 7:56:32
> http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.afobazol.ru/&ei=xJ4WSrvqMMyA-AaEq7nmDw&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=4&ct=result&prev=/search%3F%3%25D0%2590%25D0%25A4%25D0%259E%25D0%2591%25D0%2590%25D0%2597%25D0%259E%25D0%259B%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3GGGL_enGB301GB301
>
> Anyone heard of Afobazol? A new (non-benzodiazepine) anti anxiety drug available OTC in Russia?
>
> Comparable efficacy to Diazepam without any of the side effects or any addiction/withdrawal. Sounds good eh? Maybe too good to be true...I shall be investigating further no doubt...
>
> Neg
It appears to be some experimental Russian medication. There isn't much information out there and I doubt it would be something I would personally want to take since there is barely anything written up on it.-- Jay
Posted by Negcreep on May 23, 2009, at 11:13:59
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Phillipa on May 22, 2009, at 12:08:37
Paper comparing afobazol and diazepam. Looks good to me, Im gonna give it a go....
Neg
Posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 19:29:34
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on May 23, 2009, at 11:13:59
How many others? Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on May 26, 2009, at 4:16:59
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Negcreep, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 19:29:34
Another study , original russian:
www.rmj.ru/articles_4437.htmGoogle translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=www.rmj.ru%2Farticles_4437.htm&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=Still sounds very promising !
Posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2009, at 21:04:28
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Phillipa, posted by Negcreep on May 26, 2009, at 4:16:59
Neg keep reporting when do you start does it work for OCD also? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on May 27, 2009, at 8:56:29
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Negcreep, posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2009, at 21:04:28
Will be getting via post within the next 7 days, its cheap too $42 (£27) (inc shipping) for a months supply.
It's primarily for anxiety, so no word on using it as an OCD treatment yet. I dont know much about OCD but if there is any 'anxious component' to it. Theres a chance afo could help.
Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2009, at 20:27:36
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on May 27, 2009, at 8:56:29
Neg keep us posted okay? Love Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on June 12, 2009, at 6:21:42
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Negcreep, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2009, at 20:27:36
Received my package from Ukraine yesterday, and have started trial with Afobazol for GAD. Dosage is 10mg 3x daily. Havent noticed any side effects yet. Anxiolytic effect kicks in after 1st week.
Will keep you posted.
Neg
Posted by Phillipa on June 12, 2009, at 19:30:04
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on June 12, 2009, at 6:21:42
Thanks Phillipa
Posted by SLS on June 13, 2009, at 4:40:45
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on June 12, 2009, at 6:21:42
> Received my package from Ukraine yesterday, and have started trial with Afobazol for GAD. Dosage is 10mg 3x daily. Havent noticed any side effects yet. Anxiolytic effect kicks in after 1st week.
>
> Will keep you posted.Please do.
Does Afobazol go by any other names?
- Scott
Posted by Negcreep on June 15, 2009, at 7:19:32
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by SLS on June 13, 2009, at 4:40:45
Russian name is :
АФОБАЗОЛ
(russian text doesnt display properly on here but if you paste that into google it will still search for the correct word, and then you can read stuff in english via google translate)
Ive also seen it refered to as AFOBAZOLUM
Im on day 5 of my trial with it now, maybe a slight calming effect is noticable at this stage. But it could just be placebo. The papers Ive read say its full effect isnt really felt until week 2/3 then by week 4 its better than diazepam. I can only hope thats true!
Neg
Posted by Phillipa on June 15, 2009, at 21:56:03
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on June 15, 2009, at 7:19:32
Neg if you're tolerant after 40 years to benzos and still have anxiety think this might help? Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on June 16, 2009, at 4:05:40
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Negcreep, posted by Phillipa on June 15, 2009, at 21:56:03
Bloody hell 40 years! I took xanax for the first time recently and got into trouble with withdrawal after just 10 days @ 1mg so I can only imagine what its like for you.
Well the jury is still out on afobazol at the moment. Myself and a handful on my Agomelatine google group have started taking it in the past week. So far all we can report is that its having a subtle calming effect after a few days. It doesnt seem to have an immediate effect like benzos.
If the papers I've read are to be believed it could be a very useful anti-anxiety tool. It isnt addictive, is non sedating and apparently as good as/better than diazepam after 4 weeks. It even has a mild activating effect.Ive also read that it can 'potentiate the effects of benzodiazepines' so maybe it has some potential for you to cut down or stop. I will keep you all updated on my / my groups progress. I have pretty bad anxiety so if it works for me then it should be able to help others too.
Neg
Posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2009, at 19:46:19
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Phillipa, posted by Negcreep on June 16, 2009, at 4:05:40
Neg seriously have during the years been as low as .125 of xanax with absolutely no problem getting there. Get this when in 1974 given Miltown and took with valium 5mg tid and one day didn't feel needed the miltown so just stopped it no with drawal at all. Even the doc at the time was more than amazed. Been cutting down for a long time now just doesn't seem to bother me as they don't seem to work hence to afobazol. Thought might recapture at least some relaxation. Thanks for answering. Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on July 27, 2009, at 2:44:47
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Negcreep, posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2009, at 19:46:19
I had to stop taking afobazol as it was causing worsening of my gastritis condition , I get this with a lot of medications.
In the time I was on it I cant really say it helped my anxiey much at all. The interest in the drug in my google group has dropped considerably. Only one or people reporting that it effective, and they are taking a mix of antidepressants and benzos as well so that doesnt mean much.
So in conclusion I'm not impressed with Afobazol.
Posted by Negcreep on July 27, 2009, at 7:57:23
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Negcreep on July 27, 2009, at 2:44:47
Ha! Same day I post that one member of the google group has posted that he is experiencing a calming and activating effect from afobazol after 5 weeks of taking it. He is also taking agomelatine.
Posted by Sigismund on July 27, 2009, at 20:16:18
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by SLS on June 13, 2009, at 4:40:45
It's good for me.
Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2009, at 23:15:05
In reply to Re: Afobazol, posted by Sigismund on July 27, 2009, at 20:16:18
Just wondering if now allowed to give group name? Phillipa
Posted by Negcreep on July 28, 2009, at 7:57:47
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2009, at 23:15:05
agomelatine psychonauts :)
Posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2009, at 19:26:15
In reply to Re: Afobazol » Phillipa, posted by Negcreep on July 28, 2009, at 7:57:47
Thanks been reading all the posts. Love Phillipa
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