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Posted by nellie77 on October 7, 2008, at 14:22:46
Hi,I have been suffering from fatigue for years and my TSH is always normal- around 3
Recently I checked Free T4 and Total T3:TT3: 0.70 (0.80- 1.80)
FT4: 0.78 ( 0.7-2)
Is there any reason to look into this?
TIA,
Nellie.
Posted by rskontos on October 7, 2008, at 14:44:55
In reply to thyroid tests, posted by nellie77 on October 7, 2008, at 14:22:46
Nellie,
My doc says the range and this is new research so some docs may or may not agree, for TSH should be .5- 1.5. I first tested 5.0 and they put me on Armour. My next test was 3.0 and the doc upped the Armour to 45 mg. a day. I feel somewhat better but I also have adrenal fatigue. So if you look at 3.0 TSH range with the newest guidelines then 3.0 would be medicated. It does depend on the doc. Have you seen this newest research?
rsk
oh yeah when my TSH was so high my Free T3 was in range and so was T-4. My TSH was the highest range.
Does this help?
Posted by azalea on October 7, 2008, at 15:28:18
In reply to thyroid tests, posted by nellie77 on October 7, 2008, at 14:22:46
Are you taking any medications?
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> Hi,
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> I have been suffering from fatigue for years and my TSH is always normal- around 3
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> Recently I checked Free T4 and Total T3:
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> TT3: 0.70 (0.80- 1.80)
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> FT4: 0.78 ( 0.7-2)
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> Is there any reason to look into this?
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> TIA,
> Nellie.
Posted by Phillipa on October 7, 2008, at 16:51:05
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by azalea on October 7, 2008, at 15:28:18
According to my lastest lab values free T4 was 1.54 t3 they didn't say and Tsh was .567. So it looks as if the free T4 is low. So yes I'd look into it. Funny here the normal range for Tsh is 1-2 but feel better when it's within normal but higher like 2.5. So complicated. I take synthroid for mine. Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on October 7, 2008, at 20:15:43
In reply to thyroid tests, posted by nellie77 on October 7, 2008, at 14:22:46
A good way to look deeper into thyroid diagnosis is with body temperature. Take your temperature 3 times a day for 2 weeks. Record them. Keep an eye on the lows, the highs, the daily average, and a weekly average. If it almost always below 98.4, something is wrong. If the average is in the 97.6-98.2 range, something is wrong.
Type in a google search "stop the thyroid madness". Tons of excellent information on diagnosis at that site. Basically, lab numbers are only a guideline and by no means a bible. It is important to look at symptoms and body temperature in relation in the context of the lab numbers. Many doctors treat patients with thyroid meds based on how they feel with particular doses, not on how the lab numbers look. Someone with apparently normal lab numbers can in fact be hypothyroid. The reason is because while we can measure thyroid in the blood, we cannot measure what it is doing at the cells where it is supposed to work. Sometimes more is needed. If that is the case, symptoms will improve with treatment, totally separate from and regardless of, lab numbers.
I'm no expert on thyroid stuff, but at a glance your numbers do look suspect to me. The T3 in particular seems rather low. But you need to learn more about it and look deeper. The thyroid website should help you with that.
There is a thyroid forum at Yahoo Groups where some experts hang out. Lots of people there to ask. Sign up and check it out.
Posted by nellie77 on October 8, 2008, at 7:35:36
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by rskontos on October 7, 2008, at 14:44:55
Hi rsk,Thanks for your response. I heard about the new range, but I guess it is different for each individual
Where I'm at, one needs a referral from a family physician in order see an endo. Mine sees no reason to give me one. I guess that having "schizoaffective" noted on my medical records automatically writes me off as delusional, or, at best, attributes all physical symptoms to my psychiatric condition.
Are you being treated for adrenal fatigue? I hope you feel better soon.
Take care,
Nellie.
Posted by nellie77 on October 8, 2008, at 7:38:24
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by azalea on October 7, 2008, at 15:28:18
> Are you taking any medications?
Just celexa.
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Posted by nellie77 on October 8, 2008, at 8:04:36
In reply to Re: thyroid tests, posted by Phillipa on October 7, 2008, at 16:51:05
Hi Phillipa,Thanks for your message. You are right, it is complicated.
Nellie.
Posted by nellie77 on October 8, 2008, at 8:07:37
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by bleauberry on October 7, 2008, at 20:15:43
Bleauberry, thanks for all the info and helpful advice. I will look into it all.Nellie.
Posted by rskontos on October 8, 2008, at 9:30:37
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » rskontos, posted by nellie77 on October 8, 2008, at 7:35:36
Yes I am but I think that although you aren't being referred to an endo, there are supplements you can take to help your thyroid functions. I have read about them and I have found several website with supplement formulas if you are interested. The book I am reading that gives things to do about adrenal fatigue he says that often thyroid function and adrenal fatigue go hand in hand. He has a website that has supplements and suggestions if you are interested.
Just let me know. I can post the links.
rsk
Posted by nellie77 on October 9, 2008, at 14:01:43
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by rskontos on October 8, 2008, at 9:30:37
That sounds interesting.
Can you please post the links?Nellie.
>Yes I am but I think that although you aren't being referred to an endo, there are supplements you can take to help your thyroid functions. I have read about them and I have found several website with supplement formulas if you are interested. The book I am reading that gives things to do about adrenal fatigue he says that often thyroid function and adrenal fatigue go hand in hand. He has a website that has supplements and suggestions if you are interested.
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> Just let me know. I can post the links.
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> rsk
Posted by nellie77 on October 10, 2008, at 9:36:14
In reply to Re: thyroid tests » nellie77, posted by rskontos on October 8, 2008, at 9:30:37
Posted by rskontos on October 10, 2008, at 13:24:19
In reply to Re: thyroid tests, posted by nellie77 on October 9, 2008, at 14:01:43
The book I am reading is about adrenal function but he discusses thyroid functions too, he has a website with supplements for the thyroid, it is "ADrenal Fatigue, the 21 Century Stress Syndrome" and he says often if you have thyroid issues you also have adrenal fatigue they can go hand in hand.On his website www.adrenalfatigue.org he has a product for thyroid funtion called thyrobalance. I also listed another website with a good product below at the bottom. The t-tapp website has an excellent exercise program for thyroid patients that help stimulate the thyroid and adrenal glands.
http://www.thyroid.org/
http://thyroid.about.com/od/gettestedanddiagnosed/a/selftesting.htmhttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hypothyroidism/DS00353
http://store.t-tapp.com/catalog/product_view.aspx?product_id=539&category_id=9
Let me know if you need more.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on October 10, 2008, at 13:26:38
In reply to Re: thyroid tests, posted by nellie77 on October 9, 2008, at 14:01:43
Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2008, at 19:42:02
In reply to Re: thyroid tests---one more link » nellie77, posted by rskontos on October 10, 2008, at 13:26:38
Great links thanks from me. Love Phillipa
Posted by nellie77 on October 11, 2008, at 12:32:17
In reply to Re: thyroid tests---one more link » nellie77, posted by rskontos on October 10, 2008, at 13:26:38
Posted by rskontos on October 12, 2008, at 14:12:30
In reply to Thank you, rsk! (nm) » rskontos, posted by nellie77 on October 11, 2008, at 12:32:17
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