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Posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 19:06:00
God this hurt. The headache really is painful. I think i'm ok now. i took some clonidine and my bp is close to normal. I just feel sick and tired now. ugh.
-d/r
Posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 19:18:31
In reply to hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 19:06:00
Which Maoi are you taking and how much do you take? You really should stop taking it, and call your pdoc asap. I haven't checked the recommendations recently, but I think it's prudent, at the least, to take time off from whatever it is.
Nadezda
Posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 19:23:38
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » desolationrower, posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 19:18:31
tranylcypromine at 60mg a day.
I don't want to call my pdoc, it was hard enough to get him to agree to prescribe it and its the first antidepressant that makes me feel good again. I do'nt want to do anything to risk going back onto sris again.
-d/r
Posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 20:33:56
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 19:23:38
What happened that caused the reaction? You really need some sort of advice about how to proceed, so as not to cause further problems. These things can be serious--
Are you sure you know all the things to be careful of? Are you being cautious about anything where you have some doubt? Especially if you can't consult your pdoc, you need to take extra steps to protect yourself.
Nadezda
Posted by Phillipa on October 3, 2008, at 20:50:14
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » desolationrower, posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 20:33:56
Please call someone the pdoc as look what happened To Phoenix I from his post above. Phillipa
Posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 21:04:57
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » desolationrower, posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 20:33:56
I am not sure what caused the reaction. I had a small amount of ice cream and a few cups of coffee, things i've had before too. I'd be surprised if it was that. I don't know what could ahve caused it. I have been carful with what i eat.
do nri protect against spontaneous hypertensive as well as tyramine-induced?
I feel really tired right now its hard to think. thanks for concern.
fyi it took .7mg of clonadine
-d/r
Posted by azalea on October 3, 2008, at 22:04:36
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 21:04:57
What was your BP when you had the headache?
How soon after the ice cream and coffee did the headache occur?> I am not sure what caused the reaction. I had a small amount of ice cream and a few cups of coffee, things i've had before too. I'd be surprised if it was that. I don't know what could ahve caused it. I have been carful with what i eat.
>
> do nri protect against spontaneous hypertensive as well as tyramine-induced?
>
> I feel really tired right now its hard to think. thanks for concern.
>
> fyi it took .7mg of clonadine
>
> -d/r
Posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 22:22:18
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » desolationrower, posted by azalea on October 3, 2008, at 22:04:36
tHE HIGHesth reading was 180/118. I had taken the first sublingual clonidine a few minutes before. my normal blood pressure is 125/75.
I noticed it maybe an hour later, i'm not sure. Maybe a half hour later after the coffee (from my fake espresso machine, its is 'moka' style to be technical)
have you guys had one of these before, i'm not sure if you're asking for curiosity or to see if i'm in danger or what.
wow this clonidine is the most intense sleepiness ever.
-d/r
Posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 22:48:01
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 22:22:18
I ask because I'm very concerned. It's not a minor thing, if it was really a hypertensive reaction--
You absolutely need to figure out what could have caused what happened, so you can take precautions in the future.
I'm hoping your attitude, which seems a bit casual, is caused by the sleepiness and that tomorrow you'll realize that this could potentially be dangerous-- if you're not extremely careful not to repeat whatever happened. Mao doesn't get replaced so quickly, and right now, you could be much more susceptible to another reaction, because your reserves have been used.
Please stop taking the parnate and be very careful about what you eat.
Nadezda
Posted by jedi on October 4, 2008, at 2:21:07
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 22:22:18
Hi,
Several years ago, while on a Parnate trial, I had a spontaneous hypertensive episode. There was no known cause and at the time I switched back to my standby Nardil. Currently I am off all ADs, but every time I've been off MAOIs in the past 11 years, my major depression has returned within months.I have also had some spontaneous increases in BP while on Nardil, but these were less acute than the one on Parnate. Just enough to make a person feel sick and want to lie down. Parnate is known to cause more spontaneous rises in BP than the other MAOIs.
Good Luck,
Jedi
> tHE HIGHesth reading was 180/118. I had taken the first sublingual clonidine a few minutes before. my normal blood pressure is 125/75.
>
> I noticed it maybe an hour later, i'm not sure. Maybe a half hour later after the coffee (from my fake espresso machine, its is 'moka' style to be technical)
>
> have you guys had one of these before, i'm not sure if you're asking for curiosity or to see if i'm in danger or what.
>
> wow this clonidine is the most intense sleepiness ever.
>
> -d/r
Posted by desolationrower on October 4, 2008, at 16:56:11
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » desolationrower, posted by Nadezda on October 3, 2008, at 22:48:01
> I ask because I'm very concerned. It's not a minor thing, if it was really a hypertensive reaction--
>
> You absolutely need to figure out what could have caused what happened, so you can take precautions in the future.
>
> I'm hoping your attitude, which seems a bit casual, is caused by the sleepiness and that tomorrow you'll realize that this could potentially be dangerous-- if you're not extremely careful not to repeat whatever happened. Mao doesn't get replaced so quickly, and right now, you could be much more susceptible to another reaction, because your reserves have been used.
>
> Please stop taking the parnate and be very careful about what you eat.
>
> Nadezdathanks for your concern. I am concerned with the risks, and have been very carful in what i eat. it is true, though, my attitude is casual - thats just how i approach life.
im not going to stop taking the parnate, the only change for now, per bulldog's suggestion, is to split the dosing up into 3 times a day instead of twice.
-d/r
Posted by bulldog2 on October 4, 2008, at 17:18:40
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis. » Nadezda, posted by desolationrower on October 4, 2008, at 16:56:11
> > I ask because I'm very concerned. It's not a minor thing, if it was really a hypertensive reaction--
> >
> > You absolutely need to figure out what could have caused what happened, so you can take precautions in the future.
> >
> > I'm hoping your attitude, which seems a bit casual, is caused by the sleepiness and that tomorrow you'll realize that this could potentially be dangerous-- if you're not extremely careful not to repeat whatever happened. Mao doesn't get replaced so quickly, and right now, you could be much more susceptible to another reaction, because your reserves have been used.
> >
> > Please stop taking the parnate and be very careful about what you eat.
> >
> > Nadezda
>
> thanks for your concern. I am concerned with the risks, and have been very carful in what i eat. it is true, though, my attitude is casual - thats just how i approach life.
>
> im not going to stop taking the parnate, the only change for now, per bulldog's suggestion, is to split the dosing up into 3 times a day instead of twice.
>
> -d/rThere is some amphetemine in parnate which often causes a spike in bp after you take the med. I remember an old poster who could only take 10 mg per dose without a spike and therefore took multiple doses of 10 mg.
Posted by bulldog2 on October 4, 2008, at 17:57:07
In reply to Re: hypertensive crisis., posted by bulldog2 on October 4, 2008, at 17:18:40
> > > I ask because I'm very concerned. It's not a minor thing, if it was really a hypertensive reaction--
> > >
> > > You absolutely need to figure out what could have caused what happened, so you can take precautions in the future.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping your attitude, which seems a bit casual, is caused by the sleepiness and that tomorrow you'll realize that this could potentially be dangerous-- if you're not extremely careful not to repeat whatever happened. Mao doesn't get replaced so quickly, and right now, you could be much more susceptible to another reaction, because your reserves have been used.
> > >
> > > Please stop taking the parnate and be very careful about what you eat.
> > >
> > > Nadezda
> >
> > thanks for your concern. I am concerned with the risks, and have been very carful in what i eat. it is true, though, my attitude is casual - thats just how i approach life.
> >
> > im not going to stop taking the parnate, the only change for now, per bulldog's suggestion, is to split the dosing up into 3 times a day instead of twice.
> >
> > -d/r
>
> There is some amphetemine in parnate which often causes a spike in bp after you take the med. I remember an old poster who could only take 10 mg per dose without a spike and therefore took multiple doses of 10 mg.Since you appear to be sensitive to Parnate I would limit my intake of caffein.
Posted by clipper40 on October 4, 2008, at 21:48:33
In reply to hypertensive crisis., posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 19:06:00
I've read on this board of other people who have had hypertensive crises from caffeine. I would bet that's the culprit.
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