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Posted by xbeejx on October 2, 2008, at 11:08:57
Is there anything that might help with that? I am feeling alot better anxiety wise, but I think it is that I dont really give that much of sh*t. Also alcohol and clonazepam make me feel very depressed on it, even in small doses
Suggestions?
Thanks
Posted by sam K on October 2, 2008, at 12:10:55
In reply to Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by xbeejx on October 2, 2008, at 11:08:57
maybe you should take something that is mellow but has anti depressant effects. Klonopin seems to worsen depression for me. Alchohol isn't much of an antidepressant. Maybe Lamictal, because I think it makes me more motivated because it does have effect on dopamine I think (you probably wont read that anywhere). You know what I'm saying, something that chills people out yet makes them happier. Provigil, if that doesnt give you anxiety. You probably want to keep all the anti anxiety effects.
I didn't know whether you wanted medicine advice or what. Maybe some exercise would help, in the morning some light exercise; get the adrenaline pumping! lol
Posted by sam K on October 2, 2008, at 12:15:34
In reply to Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by xbeejx on October 2, 2008, at 11:08:57
also maybe some ginseng, that doesnt give me anxiety, but it makes me paranoid at night. (probably wont for you)
Posted by Phillipa on October 2, 2008, at 12:30:34
In reply to Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by xbeejx on October 2, 2008, at 11:08:57
I see you're new to babble let me welcome you. Lots of people on Parnate. I'm sure some others will chime in soon and good luck to you. Phillipa
Posted by azalea on October 2, 2008, at 21:13:50
In reply to Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by xbeejx on October 2, 2008, at 11:08:57
What dosage of Parnate are you taking?
Ginseng should NOT be taken with MAOIs as it may increase the risk of hypertensive crisis.> Is there anything that might help with that? I am feeling alot better anxiety wise, but I think it is that I dont really give that much of sh*t. Also alcohol and clonazepam make me feel very depressed on it, even in small doses
> Suggestions?
> Thanks
Posted by sam K on October 2, 2008, at 22:00:51
In reply to Re: Feeling very flat on parnate » xbeejx, posted by azalea on October 2, 2008, at 21:13:50
oops.. I apologize
Posted by azalea on October 2, 2008, at 22:19:11
In reply to Re: Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by sam K on October 2, 2008, at 22:00:51
Actually, I was mistaken. It's not hypertensive crisis. Here's what medline says:
Headache, tremors, mania, or insomnia may occur if ginseng is combined with prescription anti-depressant drugs called monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs), such as isocarboxazid (Marplan®), phenelzine (Nardil®), and tranylcypromine (Parnate®).For more info,
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-ginseng.html
> oops.. I apologize
Posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 0:57:46
In reply to ginseng and parnate » sam K, posted by azalea on October 2, 2008, at 22:19:11
How much are you taking, and for how long? I am at 60mg, and after the first week of feeling very fuzzy, it works great, the first antidepressant that has really helped.
-d/r
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 7, 2008, at 21:11:41
In reply to parnate, posted by desolationrower on October 3, 2008, at 0:57:46
i heard that some people find the effects of parnate enhanced by stimulants
my pdoc wasn't willing to try that at the time but you might want to look that up
good luck
Posted by xbeejx on October 11, 2008, at 4:46:07
In reply to Re: Feeling very flat on parnate, posted by sam K on October 2, 2008, at 12:10:55
Man, I am better on parnate but I am also worse. I just dont care about anything, I feel so chronically bored. Usually I can find something at the liabrary to read but I cant seem to get interested in anything. Conversation is far easier but I am bored with everyone and everything. Worse still, when I drink I get massively down. I had 4 cans of red bull the other night and a few beers and that helped but only to make things ok.
But I am better, I am working day shifts now for the first time in years because I can handle it. I am not wracked with anxiety though I do feel agitated. Argh! What to do, I miss Nardil, I wish if it didnt have so many side effects or I would go back on it!
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