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Posted by nickguy on July 27, 2007, at 19:39:59
I was just wondering if anybody out there who has experienced (through meds) a remission or significant improvement in depression could share what the feeling is like. (I'd appreciate if it was kept in the realm of depression)
I'd (and probably others too) would greatly appreciate the sharing of that experience for the sake of hope.
-Nick
Posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2007, at 19:50:26
In reply to geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by nickguy on July 27, 2007, at 19:39:59
What a great question. I'm so glad you asked it. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jedi on July 28, 2007, at 1:09:51
In reply to geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by nickguy on July 27, 2007, at 19:39:59
> I was just wondering if anybody out there who has experienced (through meds) a remission or significant improvement in depression could share what the feeling is like. (I'd appreciate if it was kept in the realm of depression)
>
> I'd (and probably others too) would greatly appreciate the sharing of that experience for the sake of hope.
>
>
> -NickHi Nick,
Here is a post of mine from several years ago that explains my feelings when the depression lifted from Nardil. Right now I'm only taking clonazepam and wondering if I'm going to have to return to the big gun. I've been off the MAOIs now for almost two months. I'm trying to give my brain a chance to get used to being relatively without medication. After more than ten years on meds there is a lot of adjusting to do. Anyway:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050821/msgs/545063.html
Take care,
Jedi
Posted by nickguy on July 28, 2007, at 11:29:40
In reply to Re: geting better with meds from dep. What is it like? » nickguy, posted by Jedi on July 28, 2007, at 1:09:51
> > I was just wondering if anybody out there who has experienced (through meds) a remission or significant improvement in depression could share what the feeling is like. (I'd appreciate if it was kept in the realm of depression)
> >
> > I'd (and probably others too) would greatly appreciate the sharing of that experience for the sake of hope.
> >
> >
> > -Nick
>
> Hi Nick,
> Here is a post of mine from several years ago that explains my feelings when the depression lifted from Nardil. Right now I'm only taking clonazepam and wondering if I'm going to have to return to the big gun. I've been off the MAOIs now for almost two months. I'm trying to give my brain a chance to get used to being relatively without medication. After more than ten years on meds there is a lot of adjusting to do. Anyway:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050821/msgs/545063.html
> Take care,
> JediThanks a ton, Jedi. That was an inspiring post.
Posted by big time on July 28, 2007, at 19:04:49
In reply to geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by nickguy on July 27, 2007, at 19:39:59
the feeling of depression going away is one of the best things i've ever experienced. i've done it many times on different drugs. each time it seems impossible that i would ever get better. simple things are incredible, like smiling and feeling good about something really simple. you actually start to enjoy things and feel at ease and even happy. its bizzare.
Posted by nickguy on July 28, 2007, at 19:20:37
In reply to Re: geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by big time on July 28, 2007, at 19:04:49
> the feeling of depression going away is one of the best things i've ever experienced. i've done it many times on different drugs. each time it seems impossible that i would ever get better. simple things are incredible, like smiling and feeling good about something really simple. you actually start to enjoy things and feel at ease and even happy. its bizzare.
Big Time- thank you for that. The fact that you mentioned it seemed impossible (which it seems and feels for me now) and got better was a good thing.
Posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2007, at 21:23:42
In reply to Re: geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by big time on July 28, 2007, at 19:04:49
I want to get better too and I have less time than you as I'm 60 just a few more years. Heck I'm trying to deal with aging, not being able to nurse anymore the body deterioration that goes with aging. I've tried contrary to what others may think so many meds. I feel nothing no side effects or withdrawal why is that any ideas? What can I do to get a response to a med? And yes I've stuck with many meds for over three months luvox around 9 years. Love Phillipa
Posted by big time on July 28, 2007, at 23:29:40
In reply to Re: geting better with meds from dep. What is it like? » big time, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2007, at 21:23:42
have you experimented with different doses? for me that's been pretty huge. i've spent years on what i now think was too low a dose of lithium and lamictal. now that they are higher its like they finally kick in. other than that i don't know, i wish i could help more.
Posted by nickguy on July 28, 2007, at 23:57:02
In reply to Re: geting better with meds from dep. What is it like?, posted by big time on July 28, 2007, at 23:29:40
Posted by F00TBALL on July 29, 2007, at 9:46:52
In reply to ANYMORE stories???? (nm), posted by nickguy on July 28, 2007, at 23:57:02
It's a great feeling. After going through so many different drugs, I was becoming worried that I would feel depressed for the rest of my life. Then I met Nardil.
Now I have very few negative thoughts, I have a lot more energy and interest in getting out of the house and doing things. Life, in general feels a lot more meaningful and enjoyable. I've also noticed that I'm a lot more pleasant to be around and am a lot nicer to other people.
Posted by nickguy on July 29, 2007, at 15:05:26
In reply to Re: ANYMORE stories????, posted by F00TBALL on July 29, 2007, at 9:46:52
> It's a great feeling. After going through so many different drugs, I was becoming worried that I would feel depressed for the rest of my life. Then I met Nardil.
> Now I have very few negative thoughts, I have a lot more energy and interest in getting out of the house and doing things. Life, in general feels a lot more meaningful and enjoyable. I've also noticed that I'm a lot more pleasant to be around and am a lot nicer to other people.Football, when did you start taking nardil? I'm hoping to try an MAOI and nardil is a possibility, but I'm worried about the whole formula change thing. (They changed it in 2003 and it stopped working for a lot of people)
Posted by Jedi on July 29, 2007, at 17:04:27
In reply to To: FOOTBALL, posted by nickguy on July 29, 2007, at 15:05:26
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> Football, when did you start taking nardil? I'm hoping to try an MAOI and nardil is a possibility, but I'm worried about the whole formula change thing. (They changed it in 2003 and it stopped working for a lot of people)
The power of suggestion, similar to the placebo effect, is very powerful. Nardil still works for a large number of people. Especially those with atypical depression and social anxiety. There is a school of thought that without a valid trial of phenelzine, a patient with atypical depression can't really be termed treatment resistant. I've seen and experienced miracles on this med.
Jedi
Posted by nickguy on July 29, 2007, at 18:06:49
In reply to Re: To: FOOTBALL » nickguy, posted by Jedi on July 29, 2007, at 17:04:27
> ...
> > Football, when did you start taking nardil? I'm hoping to try an MAOI and nardil is a possibility, but I'm worried about the whole formula change thing. (They changed it in 2003 and it stopped working for a lot of people)
>
> The power of suggestion, similar to the placebo effect, is very powerful. Nardil still works for a large number of people. Especially those with atypical depression and social anxiety. There is a school of thought that without a valid trial of phenelzine, a patient with atypical depression can't really be termed treatment resistant. I've seen and experienced miracles on this med.
> Jedi
>
>
Thanks for the reply. I just wonder if nardil is as changed as the whole "formula change activists" make it out to be.
Posted by F00TBALL on July 29, 2007, at 18:17:31
In reply to Re: To: FOOTBALL, posted by nickguy on July 29, 2007, at 18:06:49
I think it tends to be less effective if you were on it prior to the change. It seems like, from what I've read, it's still extremely effective for newer users.
Posted by Nathan_Arizona on July 30, 2007, at 7:11:42
In reply to ANYMORE stories???? (nm), posted by nickguy on July 28, 2007, at 23:57:02
Well, I have dealt with depression pretty much since my teens. My illness (like so many others') is punctuated by recurrent bouts of debilitating depression that began to accelerate in frequency and intensity in my twenties.
I started on prozac when I was thirty.
The first two weeks on the drug were awful. I had terrible anxiety, had my first panic attack which led me to present at the hospital with what I was sure was a seizure or heart attack.
In the third/fourth week I began to notice very subtle changes however. I quit crying. I found myself whistling around the house - which I was cleaning for the first time in months.
I also began to notice a general brightening of my senses. Food began to taste really good. I also began to see in color again (it seems as though I saw most things is shades of blue and grey).
I regained interest in my work again and actually finished my degree.
But I think the most unusual thing was just this overwhelming sense of gratitude. It's hard to explain, but I began to realize what life could really be like, and how good it really could be. I was also grateful to myself for having the strength to get to that point.
Now, I'm not saying that since prozac my life has been a bed of sunshine and roses - it hasn't been. There are still ups and downs, but there isn't that persistent, unrelenting, grinding hopelessness that had dominated my life until that point.
I recently (and stupidly) came off prozac and the symptoms of depression began to return. I'm back in the initiation phase of anxiety again, but at least I know it is transient.
Good luck with your journey - I hope it ends up as well as mine did.
Natie
Posted by nickguy on July 30, 2007, at 17:46:34
In reply to Re: ANYMORE stories????, posted by Nathan_Arizona on July 30, 2007, at 7:11:42
Good story, Nathan. Thanks for sharing.
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