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Posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 11:22:56
Why is that?
I take 10mg of Zyprexa now and again, it takes all of the physical symptoms of depression and anxiety away straight away but it's only around the 4th day afterwards that I actually feel sort of nice and then I start gradually going down again.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what is happening here? I'd like to feel consistently ok (if that's not too much to ask) and I don't want this haphazard approach of taking Zyprexa every 7 days (although it is a God Send and I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth).
If I take 10mg Zyprexa daily I just feel too monged out, if I take less daily it doesn't seem to help so I only get any benefit if I take 10mg now and again but it's not an ideal way to live. It's better than nothing but I'm not satisfied with this approach. I don't want to seem ungrateful, I'm very grateful for Zyprexa I'd just like to find a better way.
Denise
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 11:27:42
In reply to Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off., posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 11:22:56
Denise what would happen if you took a tiney tiny dose daily I wonder? You know I feel the same way about valium seems as the day goes on I feel a bit more energy. Love Phillipa
Posted by polarbear206 on April 16, 2007, at 12:25:26
In reply to Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off., posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 11:22:56
> Why is that?
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> I take 10mg of Zyprexa now and again, it takes all of the physical symptoms of depression and anxiety away straight away but it's only around the 4th day afterwards that I actually feel sort of nice and then I start gradually going down again.
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> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what is happening here? I'd like to feel consistently ok (if that's not too much to ask) and I don't want this haphazard approach of taking Zyprexa every 7 days (although it is a God Send and I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth).
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> If I take 10mg Zyprexa daily I just feel too monged out, if I take less daily it doesn't seem to help so I only get any benefit if I take 10mg now and again but it's not an ideal way to live. It's better than nothing but I'm not satisfied with this approach. I don't want to seem ungrateful, I'm very grateful for Zyprexa I'd just like to find a better way.
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> Denise
Denise,Did you ever consider that you might just do well on the 10mg Zyprexa daily if you cut back the Lexapro? Have you tried this approach? Combo of both meds just may be what your looking for.
Polarbear
Posted by Sebastian on April 16, 2007, at 12:51:09
In reply to Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off., posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 11:22:56
Have you tried a 10mg pill every 4 days?
Posted by stargazer on April 16, 2007, at 12:58:38
In reply to Re: Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off., posted by Sebastian on April 16, 2007, at 12:51:09
First thought was to split the dose, 5 mg/am, 5 mg/pm. Then I thought perhaps 7.5 mg would be enough? Also what polarbear said makes sense, cut back on one of the other meds slightly.
Stargazer
Posted by Jeroen on April 16, 2007, at 17:54:34
In reply to Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off., posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 11:22:56
i had it too with this... try seroquel
lowest dose for 2 weeks 25 mg BID
Posted by med_empowered on April 17, 2007, at 3:50:55
In reply to i had it too with this... try seroquel, posted by Jeroen on April 16, 2007, at 17:54:34
Maybe day 4 is when everything "settles" correctly in your brain.
I mean, by then I imagine the initial sedation and (possibly) low-level drug induced dysphoria from a 10mgs dose would be gone. The D2 receptors would still be blocked, but not quite as much.Maybe taking like 2.5mgs/day for a while might be better. Micro-dosing it might help you reach the perfect levels for you. Also, maybe a different med could achieve similar results. If zyprexa+ssri is helpful, maybe you could try Symbyax? Or BuSpar? BuSpar is kind of neuroleptic-ish, but I think it doesn't cause EPS or TD nearly as often as actual APs do, which is a good thing.
Posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 17, 2007, at 5:04:18
In reply to i had it too with this... try seroquel, posted by Jeroen on April 16, 2007, at 17:54:34
Hi,
What do you mean that you had it to, did you find the same thing with Zyprexa? And how would taking small doses of seroquel regularly be any different?
Thanks...Denise
Posted by Jeroen on April 17, 2007, at 5:25:56
In reply to To Jeroen, posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 17, 2007, at 5:04:18
it only made me happy the first day.. then after stopping it for taking weeks it worked only 1 day, but i have treatment resistant, as many of you so, i once did a seroquel trial of 75 mg pm and everybody saw that i was good.. miracle for me
but then i didnt took it twice and got psychotic in the afternoon so i quit it,got hospitalized for 8 months and didnt work at all, i was taking 400 mg and 100 mg
Posted by Denise190466 on April 17, 2007, at 12:22:25
In reply to Re: i had it too with this... try seroquel, posted by med_empowered on April 17, 2007, at 3:50:55
Hi,
I tried Buspar with the Seroxat and although it did help a bit just made me very tired.
Now I'm on this lexapro and even worse than I ever was and so don't think Buspar will do much.
I'm going to try taking 5mg of Zyprexa every day for two weeks with the lexapro to see if that helps but just don't want the emotional blunting.
Denise
Posted by Denise190466 on April 17, 2007, at 12:35:21
In reply to Re: Zyprexa only seems to help when it's wearing off. » Deniseuk190466, posted by polarbear206 on April 16, 2007, at 12:25:26
Hi,
I tried taking Zyprexa just on it's own and it helped but not as much when I take it with the lexapro. It zonged me out on the two days I took it on it's own.
Thanks for the advice anyway. Ultimately I just want to find an SSRI that works on it's own again like the Seroxat did, or to find something to kick start it into working.
Denise
Posted by Sebastian on April 17, 2007, at 18:17:21
In reply to Re: i had it too with this... try seroquel, posted by med_empowered on April 17, 2007, at 3:50:55
Suggest taking 1/4 of a ten mg tab daily. I find there is something about the 10mg tab that is different from the others. Maybe the fillers. You can cut them.
Posted by Sebastian on April 17, 2007, at 18:25:13
In reply to To Polarbear, posted by Denise190466 on April 17, 2007, at 12:35:21
I find celexa works realy well with zyprexa and is similar to lexapro.
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