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Posted by JaclinHyde on April 8, 2006, at 18:38:11
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » maxime, posted by TylerJ on April 7, 2006, at 18:03:17
You are going to be a great responder to the med, I can tell. A positive attitude will take you far and in a short time you will find that the Parnate will take over and your positive attitude will be permanent.
Keep us informed. You're helping a lot of people the more you post!
JH
Posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by JaclinHyde on April 8, 2006, at 18:38:11
I am now at 30 mg. The only side effect I am experience, is clumsiness. This happened when I was the med before. I would go hiking and fall a lot. But I just have to be careful.
I haven't had anymore hypertensive experiences and I don't plan on having anymore.
I think the positive thing about Parnate is that it energises you. So your depression may be addressed yet, but you have more energy which can make you feel more positive and hopeful.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 23:33:52
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
Maxie I was wondering why you hadn't posted yet, I'm so happy for you and the hiking that's wonderful. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 8, 2006, at 22:14:32
Hi
Because of the dizziness yesterday, I dropped my dosage back down to 20 mg, just to be on the safe side.I don't want to rush things.
I remember last year when I did hiking in Vermont and New York state, I wouldn't take my Parnate that day because it did make me a little dizzy and very clumsy.
I still feel the same energy though, which is good. Today I am going bike riding!
Maxime
Posted by ed_uk on April 9, 2006, at 12:41:42
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
Hi Maxie
It's great that the Parnate is starting to work. The bike ride is a great idea :)
I'm glad you're being cautious too. I want you to be safe :)
Love
Eddy xxx
Posted by Caedmon on April 9, 2006, at 17:07:48
In reply to nifedipine or Thorazine (chlorpromazine), posted by Caedmon on April 6, 2006, at 19:04:21
> My doc is going to give me Thorazine for hypertensive crisis too Maxime. I have heard conflicting information on nifedipine v. chlorpromazine.
Talked to the pharmacist today and answered my own question. Nifedipine works well to lower blood pressure, but Thorazine works better to calm you down. It's all kind of a question of what the doc is more familiar with, usually, and they both work. Since I will likely be prone to a lot of anxiety if I have a hypertensive crisis, I'm fine with my pdoc prescribing Thorazine.
- C
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:05:44
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 9, 2006, at 10:55:23
OOps I thought you went hiking yesterday sorry but wow bike riding. Love Jan
Posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:05:44
Today I didn't take my Parnate. I am sick and I wanted to be able to take cold meds.
I feel awful.
Maxime
Posted by MidnightBlue on April 10, 2006, at 21:08:49
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
Maxime,
Sweetie, you know you really shouldn't keep starting it and stopping it like that. Did you call your pdoc? I really think you should. You could use a saline nasal spray for your cold. You don't have to take a decongestant.
Sorry you feel so miserable!
Hugs,
MB
Posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 15:09:32
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
Hi Maxie
You must not take any decongestants or cough supressants for a least 2 weeks after your last dose of Parnate. Please be careful.
Ed xxx
Posted by maxime on April 11, 2006, at 22:55:09
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by JaclinHyde on April 8, 2006, at 18:38:11
30 mg of Parnate. But then I took some ephedra. I know, I am playing with fire, but you have to understand the strong hold that anorexia has on me.
I didn't feel hypertensive or anything ... just really speedy. I am going to try and stay away from it. But it's hard. You have no idea.
I have a job interview tomorrow. I wonder how it will go?
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on April 11, 2006, at 23:02:50
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » Maxime, posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 15:09:32
Maxie I don't care how broke you are you are definitely not ready to go back to work . Depression and the eating disorder . The ehpedra call the ER Please. Your life is more important and stress over a job interview is probably fueling it. Love Jan
Posted by MidnightBlue on April 12, 2006, at 0:25:16
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 11, 2006, at 22:55:09
> 30 mg of Parnate. But then I took some ephedra. I know, I am playing with fire, but you have to understand the strong hold that anorexia has on me.
>
> I didn't feel hypertensive or anything ... just really speedy. I am going to try and stay away from it. But it's hard. You have no idea.
>
> I have a job interview tomorrow. I wonder how it will go?
>
> Maxime
Maxime,I don't like the way you sound. I'm really worried about you. You are not being the careful, deliberate person I know you can be. You said you have a horrible cold. This message mentions no cold at all just the fear of gaining weight as the reason you took the ephedra?
PLEASE call your doctor and tell him what is going on. I really DO care!
MidnightBlue
Posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:20:48
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by MidnightBlue on April 12, 2006, at 0:25:16
I am okay. I just can't sleep. It's 3:30 in the morning. I feel no effect from the ephedra. Really, no need to worry. I took the ephedra because I am a big fat pig.
Maxime
> > 30 mg of Parnate. But then I took some ephedra. I know, I am playing with fire, but you have to understand the strong hold that anorexia has on me.
> >
> > I didn't feel hypertensive or anything ... just really speedy. I am going to try and stay away from it. But it's hard. You have no idea.
> >
> > I have a job interview tomorrow. I wonder how it will go?
> >
> > Maxime
>
>
> Maxime,
>
> I don't like the way you sound. I'm really worried about you. You are not being the careful, deliberate person I know you can be. You said you have a horrible cold. This message mentions no cold at all just the fear of gaining weight as the reason you took the ephedra?
>
> PLEASE call your doctor and tell him what is going on. I really DO care!
>
> MidnightBlue
>
Posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:36:17
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on April 11, 2006, at 23:02:50
> Maxie I don't care how broke you are you are definitely not ready to go back to work . Depression and the eating disorder . The ehpedra call the ER Please. Your life is more important and stress over a job interview is probably fueling it. Love Jan
Phillipa - I have worked most of my life with depression and an ED. I have no choice. I push myself and I get things done. I can't not work. That's just not a possibility.
No need to call the ER. I am fine.
Rhapsody
Posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:44:25
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » Phillipa, posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:36:17
Phillipa, I know you mean well, but I don't appreciate the way you wrote to me. I am an adult and free to do as I please. Telling me not to work? What am I suppose to do?
You do what you gotta do.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2006, at 8:57:28
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » Phillipa, posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:36:17
Maxie I'm sorry I offended you and your ability to make decisions about going to work but in a way we're in the same place as we're living without jobs either but my Doc won't let me go back to work. It's hard isn't it? Just be careful okay? Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2006, at 9:09:14
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:44:25
Maxie yeah I think we're alike in a lot of ways. I'm not supposed to do a lot of bending. But I spent yesterday raking a yard, sweeping the driveway and road, and trimming bushing and getting rid of all the gum balls from the trees. This was because we have a very small house to rent to try and get money for bills and I can't stand not working either so I did it anyway. I need and want to be useful and feel I have contributed my share. I can't sit and do nothing. It's not me. Love Phillipa
Posted by MidnightBlue on April 12, 2006, at 10:00:41
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by maxime on April 12, 2006, at 2:20:48
> I am okay. I just can't sleep. It's 3:30 in the morning. I feel no effect from the ephedra. Really, no need to worry. I took the ephedra because I am a big fat pig.
Maxime,You said you are a big fat pig. That simply isn't true. You FEEL like a big fat pig. And we both know FEELINGS aren't always real. Try applying some of your CBT concepts. (Did I get those initials right?) Maybe it will help. :-)
And ephedra will cause you to have a difficult time sleeping and make you jittery even if you got away without having a hypertensive reaction--this time.
PLEASE call your doctor you are taking risks you should not take.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
Posted by Maxime on April 12, 2006, at 19:27:58
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » maxime, posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2006, at 8:57:28
> Maxie I'm sorry I offended you and your ability to make decisions about going to work but in a way we're in the same place as we're living without jobs either but my Doc won't let me go back to work. It's hard isn't it? Just be careful okay? Love Phillipa
Thank you. I was very offended. We are not in the same place because you have a husband who can help you with money. I have no one.
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on April 12, 2006, at 19:28:51
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2006, at 9:09:14
> Maxie yeah I think we're alike in a lot of ways. I'm not supposed to do a lot of bending. But I spent yesterday raking a yard, sweeping the driveway and road, and trimming bushing and getting rid of all the gum balls from the trees. This was because we have a very small house to rent to try and get money for bills and I can't stand not working either so I did it anyway. I need and want to be useful and feel I have contributed my share. I can't sit and do nothing. It's not me. Love Phillipa
We are not alike.Maxime
Posted by Maxime on April 12, 2006, at 19:31:52
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » maxime, posted by MidnightBlue on April 12, 2006, at 10:00:41
I am a big fat pig!
I bought a self-esteem workbook that has CBT in it.
I am NOT calling my doctor. What is he going to do?
I appreciate that you care, but you don't know what it's like to live in my shoes.
Maxime
> You said you are a big fat pig. That simply isn't true. You FEEL like a big fat pig. And we both know FEELINGS aren't always real. Try applying some of your CBT concepts. (Did I get those initials right?) Maybe it will help. :-)
>
> And ephedra will cause you to have a difficult time sleeping and make you jittery even if you got away without having a hypertensive reaction--this time.
>
> PLEASE call your doctor you are taking risks you should not take.
>
> Hugs,
>
> MidnightBlue
Posted by MidnightBlue on April 12, 2006, at 21:34:07
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread » MidnightBlue, posted by Maxime on April 12, 2006, at 19:31:52
Maxime,
You are right. I am not in your shoes. And I don't understand what you are going through.
I'm so sorry you are hurting so much. I do know what it is like to hurt, I just hurt in different ways.
I only mentioned CBT because you had said favorable things about it and recommended it to others. I thought it had helped you in the past.
Please take care of yourself. I really do care what happens to you.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
Posted by Maxime on April 13, 2006, at 19:51:55
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 17:13:15
I'm still sitting at 30 mg. I don't want to increase it until some of the side effects go away. Again, I don't know if my depression is going away. Parnate, because it's activating, gives a false sense of well being before the actual antidepressant effect kicks in.
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on April 14, 2006, at 13:10:02
In reply to Re: My Parnate thread, posted by Maxime on April 13, 2006, at 19:51:55
I took 40 mg today. The side effects are no worse than at 30 mg.
I am very depressed today. But I think it has more to do with a situation than brain chemistry.
Maxime
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