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Posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 10:29:08
I know many of you don't know me but I just need to vent this out of me. I was put on psychtropic drugs b/c of a little depression and anxiety and that is when the nightmare started. Well, I have been off all drugs for about 18 months now and sometimes I feel worse than I have ever felt in my life. The scary thing is this morning I wished I was on the drugs b/c at least I didn't feel pain. How sad.
I don't want those drugs in me ever again but I don't know what to do about this depression and anxiety sometimes. It is not every day but when it hits me, it is bad!!! I am also pregnant now and just have so much overwhleming me. I don't want to try alternatives b/c of the baby. I am scared and lonely and afraid I will never get my life back. This isn't normal and I know w/d has something to do with it but how much I will never know.
Please help with some words,
JACJ
Posted by linkadge on September 1, 2005, at 13:49:04
In reply to What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 10:29:08
I don't understant why you don't want to try alternatives because of the baby.
Omega 3 might help, and if anything DHA in fish oil will make your baby smarter.
Linkadge
Posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 13:51:04
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by linkadge on September 1, 2005, at 13:49:04
I am actually taking Omega 3 vitamin along with a pre-natal. I am talking about herbal drugs like St. John's Wort, etc.
Posted by Joslynn on September 1, 2005, at 14:33:25
In reply to What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 10:29:08
I have read about this somewhere...that sometimes, women don't just get depressed postpartum, but during pregnancy. Postpartum gets more of the "press" but depression can happen during too. Maybe do a google search, I think it may be called prenatal or perinatal depression.
Sorry I don't have specific advice, but I have heard about this, you aren't the only one.
Posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 15:38:39
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by Joslynn on September 1, 2005, at 14:33:25
I am doing a search and found tons of info. Thanks. Now, I am just worried about post partum. I am not having another child. This is too hard to go thru esp. when I don't know what is wrong with me.
I am also eating more sugar which I think is hurting me since I am so chemically sensitive.
Posted by Declan on September 1, 2005, at 17:38:40
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 15:38:39
I'd be cautious about St John's Wort in pregnancy. Lots of interactions. But maybe it depends on how bad you feel.
Also, whatever you take, do it in moderation esp when pregnant. A good naturopath might be able to help with some things.
And fish oil is OK, I'd have thought.
Declan
Posted by willyee on September 1, 2005, at 17:40:57
In reply to What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 10:29:08
Post partnum is always a possability.However the unfortunate truth is most people who start meds,and stay on them a period of time have a lot of trouble staying of them,even after withdrawal.
Theres a few threads here on people who have either quiet meds,or want to,and its discussed how difficult it becomes.I hope for all our sake that these meds arent doing something to our brains that we havent discovered yet.
However it would not surprise me a bit,i know i cant get off meds,and having never been on a single drug till age 18,now 26,i know normaly i would have been able to stop if i wanted too.
I am personaly expecting sometime in the future for the truth to somehow come out that these drugs do effect our brains in a way not known,and comming off them for good is extremly difficult.
As for going alternative like st.johns wort.honestly a herb like st. johns is intentded to do the same thing as these drugs,manipulate brain chemicals,and while they may not have pharmicutical toxicity issues,they are potent pass to the brain,and herbs have their own side effects.
I think if ur gonna go the route of st johns which is nothing more than a ssri/moai drug in a herb form,you just poner going back on meds,try to speak to a doc about the mildest med u can get on that wont intrude ur preganacy.
Im not a big fan of all the different herbs,so many brands etc you never know what impurites are in it since u dont know where it was obtained,how it was processed etc.
Good luck.
Posted by Phillipa on September 1, 2005, at 19:16:34
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by willyee on September 1, 2005, at 17:40:57
Years ago when I was pregnant I was on valium, wine, placidyl[sleep me] and the doctors didn't know they were not good. My daughter had many hyperactivity prolems the first l8months, failure to thrive, constant crying, and vomiting. I feel it was from all the meds. So vitamins in my opinion are all I'd take. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 19:52:48
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by Phillipa on September 1, 2005, at 19:16:34
I think my post was mis-understood. I would never take St. John's wort or any other herbal med. I was referring to the drug in a different context. Hell, I won't even take a children's aspirin. I am freaking out now b/c I had to give my cat eye drops (gentamicin) and got a few on my arms and fingers and read that this antibiotics causes hearing damage. Thank goodness I have a OB appt. tommorrow. I am getting off the subject here though.
I want to take some vitamins but don't know what is safe or not. How do you know for instance when something is good for you? i.e. probiotics
I see some people here use magnesium. I guess going to a naturopath is a good start but what if they want to put me on alot of things.I agree with Willyee about these drugs doing harm for a long time. I am a changed person. I have little faith that I will go back to what I was. I am filled with so much anger and bitterness. Here I am about to become a mom and I am not enjoying it. On the other hand, I can't see me suffering like this forever. How come you guys stay on these meds when they have done your harm? How do you get past the hurt?
JACJ
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on September 1, 2005, at 20:58:23
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 19:52:48
I'm not sure if this helps or not, but I'll put it out there just in case.
Remind yourself that your body is FILLED with wacky hormones right now. This may be a huge part of why you feel lousy. It does not mean that you will feel this poorly after the baby comes. In fact, you may look back at this time and think, "Gosh, I can't even remember why I felt so bad." Remind yourself that you are seeing yourself, your life, your future through the distorted lens of hormones.
I don't know from my own personal experience, but I know that some people I know did MUCH better after actually having the baby.
When are you due? You said very soon, right?
How much longer? Also, 3rd trimester is a much safer time to take stuff b/c all of the major development has already occured for the baby. Baby's mostly just putting on weight and getting bigger. But, you probably knew that. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. But go ahead, take that baby asprin! ;)Best,
EE
Posted by willyee on September 1, 2005, at 23:58:41
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by JACJ on September 1, 2005, at 19:52:48
I cant speak for everyone but myself i stay on them cause at this point regardless of how much i hate them,i know what i have to look forward too in getting off......
W/D symptoms so bad i wanna jump out a window.
After redraw reamurgence of oringial depression only now magnifide by 10 fold.
On top of that,weird side effects that were never there,brain zaps,nightmares twitching etc.All the results of being on the meds.
I did the med free,and for myself even after time and natrual substance the *damge* i believe from the meds were still appearent,and i couldent take it no more.
So what to do?Well i just try to go on the safest med i can,safe in way that i doubt the med has any more destructive impact on my brain.
In my case like it or not the damage from being on meds so long is already done,and going off them,regardless of the time waited,or methods tried,will not stop those ill side effects from going away,the brain zaps are most terrable.
So i unkowingly made my bed,now i have to sleep in it.
I know this is not the most happiest post,i wish it were more positive.
Again i cant speak for everyone,maybe there are people who succesfully got off meds,personaly the only people i saw or know who were able to succesgully get off meds were the ones who did it rapidly after trying there first maybe second drug.
But all i know who spent years on them have a very difficult time off them.So id rather stay on them to at the very least hold back the negative effects left by them.
Posted by crazychickuk on September 2, 2005, at 17:34:19
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?, posted by Emily Elizabeth on September 1, 2005, at 20:58:23
Jac You are in the e xact same posistion as me
i have been med free for 13 mnths and am now pregnant 17 weeks, this is my 3rd child but my first since having depression/anxiety..
i have had my bad days where everything is scaring me depressing me etc... but i stay positive and whoolaa not many bad days as i used to have!!
i currently take vitamin b complexe, fish oil (omega 3) and a multi vitamin they are all safe!!
I am also med sensitive !! and i also wont even take paracetomol etc lol how weird is that?
If i got a bad head i take 1 5ml of calpol (kids pain killer) and go to bed !! weird or what ?
anyway whats really even weirder is that i just popped here to catch up as i been away for ages. and seen your post ..
msn or email me anytime crazychickuk@msn.com
Luv DOnna xx
Posted by crazychickuk on September 2, 2005, at 17:37:28
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?EXACTLY SAME AS ME, posted by crazychickuk on September 2, 2005, at 17:34:19
Posted by JACJ on September 3, 2005, at 12:03:48
In reply to Re: What is wrong with me?EXACTLY SAME AS ME, posted by crazychickuk on September 2, 2005, at 17:34:19
Thanks for your email. I will be in touch. It sound as if we can really help each other. Thanks. :)
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