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Posted by ace on January 5, 2004, at 22:33:18
Just doing some research....Naltrexone seems a brilliant anti-poop-out drug. Anyone had good experience with any other, and how did they go asbout poop-out- raised / lower drug? added the anti-poop-out drug?
tell all!
Ace.
Nardil 105mg
Amisulpride 50mg.
Posted by brussell on January 5, 2004, at 23:11:45
In reply to Anti poop-out agents, posted by ace on January 5, 2004, at 22:33:18
Has Nardil pooped out on you before? If so, what did you do about it?
Thanks
Posted by cubbybear on January 6, 2004, at 1:24:52
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by brussell on January 5, 2004, at 23:11:45
Yes, I too would very much like to know what the tried-and-true remedy was for Parnate poopout. I haven't experienced this and hopefully never will, but it's still good to know.
Posted by linkadge on January 6, 2004, at 6:26:13
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by cubbybear on January 6, 2004, at 1:24:52
I think the real key here is both not to go too high, and to instill the greatest neuroprotection.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on January 6, 2004, at 7:26:38
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by cubbybear on January 6, 2004, at 1:24:52
> Yes, I too would very much like to know what the tried-and-true remedy was for Parnate poopout. I haven't experienced this and hopefully never will, but it's still good to know.
You might want do research whether or not lithium has been used successfully after poop-out occurs. Otherwise, it makes for a great augmentor of Parnate.
- Scott
Posted by Marty mc Fly on January 6, 2004, at 15:56:03
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » cubbybear, posted by SLS on January 6, 2004, at 7:26:38
Do you have any idea of anti-poop-out drugs for clompramine ?
Thanx in advance...
Posted by cubbybear on January 6, 2004, at 20:25:17
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » cubbybear, posted by SLS on January 6, 2004, at 7:26:38
> > Yes, I too would very much like to know what the tried-and-true remedy was for Parnate poopout. I haven't experienced this and hopefully never will, but it's still good to know.
>
> You might want do research whether or not lithium has been used successfully after poop-out occurs. Otherwise, it makes for a great augmentor of Parnate.Hi Scott,
I think I've heard that also. Are you speaking
from personal experience?
cubbybear
Posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 7:28:22
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by Marty mc Fly on January 6, 2004, at 15:56:03
> Do you have any idea of anti-poop-out drugs for clompramine ?
> Thanx in advance...Have you experienced poop-out? What part poops-out, depression or OCD? I don't think clomipramine is suppose to poop-out in the same way as do the SSRIs. If it has, I guess you could try lithium. In the literature, the use of lithium as an augmentor of antidepressants, especially the tricyclics, is widespread and perhaps the best studied and acknowledged. Wellbutrin is also used often as an adjunct. It doesn't interact badly with most medications, and does not promote anticholinergic side-effects that would otherwise be additive to those of clomipramine. Wellbutrin also seems safe to combine with MAO inhibitors. For OCD, one strategy might be to add buspirone (Buspar).
Maybe you could describe in a bit more detail your situation.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 7:31:13
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » SLS, posted by cubbybear on January 6, 2004, at 20:25:17
> > > Yes, I too would very much like to know what the tried-and-true remedy was for Parnate poopout. I haven't experienced this and hopefully never will, but it's still good to know.
> >
> > You might want do research whether or not lithium has been used successfully after poop-out occurs. Otherwise, it makes for a great augmentor of Parnate.
>
> Hi Scott,
> I think I've heard that also. Are you speaking
> from personal experience?
> cubbybear
Gosh, I wish I were. Lithium doesn't agree with me. I experience a further flattening of affect and an increase in depressive symptoms when I take even 300mg.Is everything OK? Parnate hasn't begun to poop-out, has it?
- Scott
Posted by brussell on January 7, 2004, at 19:31:37
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » Marty mc Fly, posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 7:28:22
Just wanted to point out that in the prescribing info Welbutrin is expressly contraindicated for use with MAOIs.
Posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 20:10:46
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by brussell on January 7, 2004, at 19:31:37
> Just wanted to point out that in the prescribing info Welbutrin is expressly contraindicated for use with MAOIs.
I know. So are a lot of other things that have been shown to be relatively safe. I think John Feigner first began using a combination of Parnate + Wellbutrin about ten years ago. I myself have been on that combination. No problems. Of course, that's just one person.It is good that you pointed that out. I'm glad that someone is careful enough when reading these posts to question some of the more "creative" ideas. Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by jack smith on January 8, 2004, at 1:24:49
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents, posted by linkadge on January 6, 2004, at 6:26:13
> I think the real key here is both not to go too high, and to instill the greatest neuroprotection.
>
> LinkadgeCould you please expand on this for me? I am curious as, after my ssri (celexa), pooped out big time, I tried some other things but did not get real significant relief until adding Lithium (with its supposed neuroprotective effects) to effexor, both at 300 mg--(the lithium very low, and the effexor on the high side.). Do you see a relationship? Thanks in advance, link.
JACK
Posted by cubbybear on January 8, 2004, at 1:39:37
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » SLS » cubbybear, posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 7:31:13
>
>>
> Is everything OK? Parnate hasn't begun to poop-out, has it?
>
Not at all. For obvious reasons, poopout is my biggest fear. But thank God, I never experienced the problem in all these years. I just wanted to be armed with info about what to do IF it ever happened.
Posted by Marty mc Fly on January 8, 2004, at 9:11:34
In reply to Re: Anti poop-out agents » Marty mc Fly, posted by SLS on January 7, 2004, at 7:28:22
I use clomipramine for OCD and Panic. When I started it it worked great against both panic and ocd, but after 2 years the symptomes came back a great deal. Dosage was increased to 225 mg. Now after 1 more year it's the same story. I had done some research myself and found tryptophan worth a try. It is sold over the counter (again) in Holland and a lot of other European countries. The antidepressive effect you feel at the start of an antidepressant came back, but panic and ocd still remain.
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