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Posted by stjames on May 7, 2001, at 17:45:14
In reply to IS IT STILL EFFECTIVE, posted by TRISH on May 7, 2001, at 15:32:42
> I started taking celexa 3 weeks ago and have felt pretty good. Recently, I am getting irritable again, short fuse and over reacting to situations.
>
> Please advise..anyone!!james here....
AD's don't start working for 4-8 weeks.
Posted by mila on May 7, 2001, at 20:38:07
In reply to Re: IS IT STILL EFFECTIVE, posted by stjames on May 7, 2001, at 17:45:14
Hi,
what you felt during the first 3 weeks was probably due to the placebo effect (hope is the best AD on earth), now the celexa started kicking in. It made me overreact like never before in my life.best
mila
Posted by SLS on May 8, 2001, at 7:37:42
In reply to Re: IS IT STILL EFFECTIVE, posted by stjames on May 7, 2001, at 17:45:14
Hi Trish.
I agree with both Mila and James. What Mila describes is not unusual. Sometimes irritability and an anger that takes you by surprise reflect the beginnings in an improvement. It is unlikely that a true clinical antidepressant response has occurred within the first two weeks, although you may possibly have experienced a positive initial "blip" or "tickle". It is more likely that you are only now beginning to see the more complete response. Your course of improvement might be relatively gradual, taking weeks or even months. This is a good thing.
To me, the irritability seems like a return of "reactivity" that depression has previously squashed. I guess it depends upon the type and severity of the depression. For some, it is a mild to moderate depression that produces a more or less static state of irritability. For others who are first entering a more severe depression, this state of irritability might be transient, as they pass through it on the way to a more melancholic or vegetative depression. These are just my impressions based on experience. They are not fact.
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by sar on May 10, 2001, at 11:22:08
In reply to Re: IS IT STILL EFFECTIVE, posted by SLS on May 8, 2001, at 7:37:42
Feeling irritable and truly angry were, for me, the best & most significant sign that I was improving after a long depressive episode. I'd been a self-blaming doormat for a year...anger wasn't what I was looking for as my mood improved, but when I felt it I knew that it was completely righteous.
(I don't know if you can relate to this, but I thot I'd throw it in just in case.)
sar
Posted by Nellie on May 14, 2001, at 22:27:36
In reply to Re: serzone questions!!!, posted by Christi on April 10, 2001, at 22:46:26
For anyone taking Serzone--here is what I recently learned when I went to a new psychiatrist. My GP had me taking 150 mg daily. my psych immediatley boosted me to 450 daily with the possibility of going as high as 600 mg. Because it makes me feel sluggish, he has me take it all at night. I found at low doses it worked very well for anxiety, but did nothing for weepiness. The new higher dosing is helping that. It is not, however, helping the free-floating rage and irritibility which, for me, is tied somewhat to my menstrual cycle. For this we are trying one of the newer anti-siezure meds-Topamate. After two weeks this seems to be kicking in, but has it's own set of "interesting" side-effects". The person who develops an effective mood stabalizing drug without side effects will rule the world!! Good luck to everyone searching for the right med./comb.
Posted by SalArmy4me on May 14, 2001, at 23:19:04
In reply to Re: serzone questions!!!, posted by Nellie on May 14, 2001, at 22:27:36
Have you tried any of the other anticonvulsants? I believe that you might be able to get rid of that irritability and have less side-effects on the new Depakote ER or Tegretol XR.
Posted by ChronicWorrier on June 1, 2001, at 17:32:34
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by sheryl on January 24, 2000, at 18:23:10
Has anyone had problems with bruising and bleeding gums while on celexa?
Posted by Toryalai on June 11, 2001, at 17:15:40
In reply to Re: Sexual side effects?? Re: Celexa and side effects?, posted by Cindy W on December 29, 1999, at 10:46:24
Dear Cindy - my lover has recently stated using Celexa and her sudden sexual disinterest in me is shocking (I'm a good catch and skilled lover:-) ! ). I also have not found any professional references to sex drive side effects in women, but cannot ignore the correlation that I am observing. She, however, does not seem to be conscious of this change, or at least, willing to discuss it. Although her sex drive in quasi inexistant, when aroused, after no more than two minutes of foreplay, she is saturated and pleasure becomes an irritant. Is this familar in any way? Do you also experience severe mood swings when you are not completely punctual with your meds (3-4 hr delay)? I hope that you find a solution to own troubles, and that your use of this medication is transitory. All the best, Toryalai
> > hi, i'm 21 and in college... i just started taking celexa last week after a battery of other anti-depressants. i read the stats for sexual side effects in men (6% problems with ejaculation, 3% impotence) but i can't find any for women. i already have 'problems' having an orgasm -- something i am starting to think really contributes to my depression at times, and my main concern is whether i will be experiencing sexual side effects from celexa.
> > it really pisses me off that there isn't some drug yet that doesn't interfere with your sex drive. Basically, i'm looking for some advice from other women. Thanks.
>
> Rachel, I've tried Prozac, Serzone, Luvox, Zoloft, and now Effexor. I had trouble with desire, arousal, and reaching orgasm with Prozac, Luvox, and Zoloft, but no problem with Serzone and none (so far!) with Effexor. The SSRI's are infamous for sexual dysfunction. Serzone and Effexor are newer non SSRI type antidepressants. Hope this helps.--Cindy W
Posted by mike schultz on August 3, 2001, at 21:51:41
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by Bob on January 24, 2000, at 19:03:48
> Hello,
I have been taking celexa since late May/01. I have not had an ejaculation since that time. My interest is sex is virtually nil. I can not even masturbate. Actually I feel as if I am a eunuch without benefit of testosterine patches. I am taking 20mgs daily...all the other side effects have been insignificant. It has leveled off my highs and lows and I have a sneaking suspicion it has also taken away much of my creative writing drive. This reaction has not made me depressed but to be honest, even though I am 70, I miss sex either with someone or by my self.
Posted by Rebekah W on August 27, 2001, at 10:52:29
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by Jody on February 2, 1999, at 21:06:27
Hi everyone..my doctor just put me on Celexa and the only side effect I seem to have is insomnia, but it's getting better. Jody, I'm wondering if you've been misdiagnosed. It sounds to me like you might be manic, not major. My husband was on several different meds, and nothing worked until he was properly diagnosed. His extremes in moods go from very sad to highly aggressive and angry. He needed two meds one to lift the saratonin, and the other to stabalize his moods, (lithium). From what I've read about Celexa, it should not be used for manic depression. You really should talk to your Dr., and if he doesn't seem to answer your questions, by all means go elsewhere. Keep in touch.
-Rebekah
> Hi all...my name is Jody and I was on Celexa for about a month and a half. I quit taking it about 3 weeks ago. I was having really bad side effects...my anger got worse, diarrhea, dry mouth, I was constantly clinching my teeth, very tired and my sex drive went downhill. I am just now losing the side effects after 3 weeks of being off the medicine. My questions are...1) My doctor told me that Celexa is the same thing as Prozac but without the side effects. Is this true?? I felt like I was worse on the meds than off of them. I am now finding myself having really bad mood swings...one minute really giddy and happy, the next angry and (what I think is) mildly depressed. Right now I don't know how I feel and what I should feel like.
>
> Just felt like sharing. Thanks for the ear.
>
> -Jody
>
>
> > > Hi, Tom:
> > >
> > > My experience with Celexa has been different, but it does seem that the side effects are getting milder. I didn't have the drowsiness problem (in fact, just the opposite!) I did have slight nausea but only for the first 3 days or so. I am just noticing that the constipation is clearing up, but the dry mouth is ever-present so I just drink a lot of water! The sexual delay is also still there -- but getting better.
> > > My doctor, and the MD I work for, both seem to think that these side effects will decrease. So far, they seem to be right.
> > >
> > > Good luck, Tom!
> > >
> > > Shelley
> >
> >
> > >I've been on celexa for around 2 months. The side effects do go away eventually. Although I still do have an upset stomach occassionally. My sex drive has gone down (I am a female.) and it sucks. I still have sex often, but my 'drive' has decreased. Celexa has helped with some depression and anxiety, but I am still quite anxious. Hope this has helped.
Posted by genvieve on May 21, 2002, at 22:59:33
In reply to RE: Sexual side effects from Celexa, posted by Dennis on January 26, 2000, at 13:18:36
I've been on Celexa for over a year now and the sexual side effects (basically lack of desire) are really starting to bug me. I'm also on Depo Provera which is a contraception and it also has both the side effects of sleepiness and decrease in sex drive. Has anyone else seen the commercials for Wellbutrin lately? I saw one that they now have a kind that doesn't have the sexual side effects. Does anyone use this?
Also I have a really hard time remembering to take my med in the morning does anyone have a trick to remember?
Posted by lavender2 on May 23, 2002, at 12:08:43
In reply to Sexual side effects?? Re: Celexa and side effects?, posted by Rachel on December 28, 1999, at 10:54:35
Hi I am on my 2nd week of 10mg/day of celexa. My sex drive has actually increased and sex in general is better. I realize that is not a typical reaction, but it probably has something to do with being depressed and no sex drive going hand in hand.
I have had terrible stomach problems - I can't be too far from a bathroom - ever. Does this go away? thanks everyone
> hi, i'm 21 and in college... i just started taking celexa last week after a battery of other anti-depressants. i read the stats for sexual side effects in men (6% problems with ejaculation, 3% impotence) but i can't find any for women. i already have 'problems' having an orgasm -- something i am starting to think really contributes to my depression at times, and my main concern is whether i will be experiencing sexual side effects from celexa.
> it really pisses me off that there isn't some drug yet that doesn't interfere with your sex drive. Basically, i'm looking for some advice from other women. Thanks.
Posted by babyBella on July 14, 2002, at 15:17:50
In reply to Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by TomJay on February 2, 1999, at 14:35:58
I know you posted awhile ago but one thing that worked very well for me (I've been taking celexa for over 2 years now) is to take it at night, then you sleep better and don't have to worry about being tired all day. Also, with almost any new pill you will experience sleepiness until your body adjusts
Posted by oona on July 15, 2002, at 22:55:36
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end? » TomJay, posted by babyBella on July 14, 2002, at 15:17:50
> I know you posted awhile ago but one thing that worked very well for me (I've been taking celexa for over 2 years now) is to take it at night, then you sleep better and don't have to worry about being tired all day. Also, with almost any new pill you will experience sleepiness until your body adjusts..
Hello All,
I am still tired in the afternoon and I have been taking Celexa for three months.
How long does it take to level off without feeling like napping in the afternoon? My boss would be a little upset to see me draped over my computer snoring at two thirty in the afternoon!
Also is there an easy site to go to to read up on Celexa (I am just being to lazy to surf and my computer is slow).
Thanks,
oona
Posted by JaneB on July 16, 2002, at 9:25:23
In reply to Celexa/Side Effects Info ??? » babyBella, posted by oona on July 15, 2002, at 22:55:36
>
> I am still tired in the afternoon and I have been taking Celexa for three months.
>
> How long does it take to level off without feeling like napping in the afternoon? My boss would be a little upset to see me draped over my computer snoring at two thirty in the afternoon!
>
> Also is there an easy site to go to to read up on Celexa (I am just being to lazy to surf and my computer is slow).
>
> Thanks,
> oona
www.celexa.com (easy site)I have been taking Celexa for 2 years and still feel like napping in the afternoon even though I take it at night. My pdoc thought Wellbutrin would counteract side effects but I could not tolerate WB. I am fortunate that I can nap. Good luck
JaneB
Posted by mscrane on July 17, 2002, at 9:49:48
In reply to Re: Celexa/Side Effects Info ???, posted by JaneB on July 16, 2002, at 9:25:23
I know folks who are not on any kind of anti-depressants who want to nap in the afternoon...unfortunately we live in a very fast society..I have a cup of coffee in the afternoon if I find myself fading..(I am on Celexa too)..or a piece of chocolate..I don't drink soda, but I know people who have that.
I spent 4 years in South America where EVERYONE naps in the afternoon..everything shuts down at noon for siesta and then opens again refreshed at 4. I think the napping thing is a natural thing...but our society moves to fast to recognize it. We should also ideally have 8 hours of sleep a night, which rarely happens too.
Posted by JaneB on July 18, 2002, at 8:06:20
In reply to Re: Celexa/Side Effects Info ???, posted by mscrane on July 17, 2002, at 9:49:48
Posted by mscrane on July 18, 2002, at 12:10:35
In reply to I'll remember...Naps are good! (nm) » mscrane, posted by JaneB on July 18, 2002, at 8:06:20
Sometimes I think we freak out too much about the side effects...if they are minimal...are they side effects, or just natural parts of life?????
Most of us gain weight as we age...and I realize some anti-depressants can speed up this process, but then I try to think of ways to counter-act these side-effects. I stopped eating salt, started drinking lots of water, take a vitamin B supplement and the water-retention doesn't seem to be so bad. I have also eliminated processed foods and sodas which contain tons of salt! Along with curing the depression/anxiety, I have learned to eat much healthier and exercise every day. It's alot of work, but I am better now than I have ever been. There is no magic pill..there are those that can help, but we all have challenges in life...even people who aren't on medication. If you have the opportunity to nap, then go for it...if you don't have the time..enjoy that cup of coffee in the mid afternoon...(lattes ect are FULL of fat, though..heehee). Maybe there should be a diet forum on here to dicuss dieting and SSRIs...????
Posted by DanE on October 30, 2002, at 13:41:24
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by ChronicWorrier on June 1, 2001, at 17:32:34
> Has anyone had problems with bruising and bleeding gums while on celexa?
>
YES! and I wondered whether anyonme else has responded to your message. Ive been on Celexa for 2 years 20 mg now just came down from 30. and the past 4 months my gums starteed bleeding profusely when I brush. Never had a problem there before .
My drs. don't agree there's a connection.
Posted by Palexizarticon on October 30, 2002, at 23:52:31
In reply to Re: Celexa and side effects -- do they end?, posted by DanE on October 30, 2002, at 13:41:24
i quit! no more paxil! no more celexa! no caffeine! no nothing!
i've been off celexa for over 3 months. it's out of my system. i've been off all forms of caffeine for over a year. i've started running. i ran 17 miles of a marathon a month ago, and walked the remaining 9. i'm going to deal with this anxiety crap. and beat it! maybe it's not a good idea, but i can't stand side-effects anymore. i'm a human being. i can do it. i was born a normal healthy kid, i'm gonna be a normal, healthy adult gosh darnit.
good luck to you all! i hope you find happiness in your lives! i'm outta here!
Posted by moira on August 13, 2003, at 14:39:46
In reply to Antidepressants Beware!, posted by John Mazza on March 7, 2000, at 11:56:00
John Mazza -
You wrote:
"If you're depressed e-mail me and I'll give you many recommendations."
I'm interested in hearing from you! My email is info AT jointhiscult DOT com. I want to hear about your experiences. I took Celexa a few years back & while it was good for me at the time, when I stopped taking the pills cold turkey, I went pretty crazy. I dropped out of college & experienced my first (and thus far only) panic attack. It was very scary.
I experienced many(!) of the side effects described on this message board: the yawning, anxiety, nausea, loss of sex drive, & some other ones that I didn't even REALIZE were coming from the drug, such as more manic episodes in mood swings, paranoia that someone was going to kill me while i was in the shower, ringing bells & other noises that I couldn't figure out the source of, & as one person described it: objects that seemed to shimmer as if through heat.
You'd think your doctor would tell you this shit!
I recently received a free prescription for Celexa from Forest Pharmaceuticals, via a kind of scholarship program they offer. I am self medicating myself with 10 mg, because I was taking 20 mg before and I don't want to take as much this time.
I started doing some research on the 'net today and the stuff I have been reading has scared me enough to seriously reconsider taking anti-depressants. I have only taken the pills three days this time around, I've been sick two of them. (Forgot about those pesky side effects from last time.)
I've also started wondering how it is that a company can give out a free $265 value prescription. Kinda makes you wonder, eh?
So...
Do you have any solutions aside from drugs to offer me? I have been considering trying Kava Kava or St. John's Wort. I am generally emotionally healthy, but I seem to get very depressed in the winter. Also, my best friend recently committed suicide (April 2002) so I am still dealing with that trauma.
What do you think of taking Celexa through the winter and then gradually cutting my dosage starting in March? Or are the side effects such that I should just find another alternative? Any advice you have to offer would be appreciated and well-considered.
Thanks...
moira
Posted by ELENI4 on October 6, 2003, at 21:43:54
In reply to Paxil to Celexa, posted by Palexizarticon on December 5, 2000, at 1:18:24
> greetings!
>
> i am 17. i have always been depressed as long as i can remember, though it peeked when i was 12... that's when i began taking Paxil. about 2 or 3 weeks ago, i quit Paxil cold-turkey and i've been having side effects that (i've been told) are symptoms of withdrawal: motion-sickness, itchy rashes, nervous jitters, and anxiety.
>
> today, i went to the doctor and explained why i had quit... since i've sworn of Caffeine, i haven't really been feeling depressed. but i had forgotten the anxiety, OCD, and other things that were ... well, not depression.
>
> i suggested i wanted to try a different drug because although Paxil was ok, i was having major memory loss problems with Paroxatine and it was driving me nuts (when i could remember what upset me ;P), so he suggested Celexa. i was happy because at a party, someone had told me he and his mom had been taking Paxil for a long time, and the memory problems were bothering them too, and when they quit, they went through major withdrawal. (he says he couldn't move from his bed without feeling intense pain) and they tried Celexa and they said so far it hadn't given them any memory problems and it was essentially "the same thing" as Paxil. (so yeah, that's why i'm happy the doctor prescribed Celexa)
>
> but now i'm feeling a little anxious (heh) or maybe i should say hypocondric... about taking Celexa now. is it safe? are there any really bad side-effects that i wouldn't experience with Paxil anyway? has it really been tested enough? has it been known to cause, even among a small population... brain tumors? (woah! yeah, i'm paranoid. that's another thing.) that's why i posted these evening... er... morning, er... whatever. from the posts i've read, i'm concerned about 2 things:
>
> 1. sleep. i am already a pretty sleepy person, and i don't want to not be able to go to school in the morning. and insomnia doesn't sound very pleasant either.
>
> 2. nausea. now, i'm not sure the queaziness [sic?]can get much worse for me... i know it would disappear if i took Paxil, but what about Celexa? if it got any worse, i would vomit at the sight of a city bus or cigarette.
>
> i like the feeling of having a magic drug that's sitting in my bathroom just in case i need it, and i can walk around and say "yes, i'm off anti-depressants." but i know that's not the way it works, because i'll be much more sensitive and anxious without some special meds. so, please give me your thoughts.
>
> i have the 20mg Celexa. i have the 20mg Paxil. should i take the Celexa? take nothing?I'm the same way. I have the Paxil and Celexa sitting here and am not sure which, if any, to try. With Paxil, I'm afraid of two studies that strongly suggested women were way more likely to develop breast cancer as a result of taking Paxil. And with Celexa, I'm afraid of heart failure, which you would think is rare, but it's not...just infrequent (occurring in less than 1 in 100 but in at least 1 in 1000). I'm sorry, but I don't want to be that one in a thousand. I'm terrified of it. Oh I feel like an idiot, but I don't know what to do. How did you choose to deal with your fear? What did you decide?
Posted by MichaelK785 on October 26, 2003, at 19:57:40
In reply to Re: New to Celexa - side effects, posted by Bill L on October 31, 2000, at 8:08:02
I am writing to post my about my own experience with Celexa...I was on it for well over a year and most of this time I was taking 40 mg daily. The drug was helpful with depression for a time but I eventually had to discontinue use due to the severity of side effects.
Overall, the experience of being on the drug was a scary one. I had a number of side effects such as drowsiness, tired all the time no matter how much I slept, itchy skin and a feeling of restlessness. I functioned better overall on a day-to-day basis although I would not say that I felt normal by any means. I was able to function and get through the day where I could not before so I considered this to be an improvement. I do feel that it definitely altered my personality as well. I became much more outgoing and sociable than I would normally be. Sex was fine as far as functioning goes but I did experience a diminished intensity of orgasm.
After about 18 months or so on the drug, out of the blue I began to develop severe diarrhea and overall weakness which lasted for weeks and at first I had attributed this to a stomach virus. There were no other symptoms such as fever or anything else. The problem continued to get worse and I became completely incapacitated, unable to leave the house. I was very scared and weak and pale and I looked like death warmed over. My doctor claimed that this could not possibly be attributed to the drug. He wanted to refer me to a gastroenterologist for an endoscopy for some 1,500 dollars and I did not have medical coverage at the time. In the end my psychiatrist was wrong. He simply had not heard of this kind of reaction before. After having experienced severe gastric upset for nearly a month, rather than go for the endoscopy I sought a second opinion and was instructed to begin tapering off the drug as an experiment to see if symptoms improved. I gradually began to get better. It took a few more weeks for my intestinal tract to return to normal and by the end of the excruciating experience I had been sick for about six weeks and lost 25 pounds. I had a slim build to begin with so this was really not a good thing for my body.
Antidepressants are very powerful medications. They all have side effects and some can be quite severe. I caution you to be careful when you take them and pay attention to how you feel.
Posted by pala on November 4, 2003, at 19:10:58
In reply to Attn: John - Re: Antidepressants Beware!, posted by moira on August 13, 2003, at 14:39:46
John,
Is there any way you can share your past experience with these drugs, I was on all kinds of
Anti depressants over six years and finally gave up 5 months ago but still have severe side effects which are listed below which has made me almost useless. I am wondering if I will have to live with these for life for taking those hellish drugsSide effects are
1.Severe dizziness
2.Feeling phased out
3.Panic and anxiety most of the time day and night, especially after exercise
4.intense Headaches
5.can't concentrate, severe depression and severe
anxiety problems
6.No good sleep in the night
7.Nightmares every night
8.Even the brightest light looks very dull
9.Words don't come out of mouth
10.Blurred vision etc etcsome of the medications in the order of precedence
Dexadrine
Effexor
Zyprexa
Wellbutrin
Prozac and Klonopin
Prozac
thankspala
> John Mazza -
>
> You wrote:
>
> "If you're depressed e-mail me and I'll give you many recommendations."
>
> I'm interested in hearing from you! My email is info AT jointhiscult DOT com. I want to hear about your experiences. I took Celexa a few years back & while it was good for me at the time, when I stopped taking the pills cold turkey, I went pretty crazy. I dropped out of college & experienced my first (and thus far only) panic attack. It was very scary.
>
> I experienced many(!) of the side effects described on this message board: the yawning, anxiety, nausea, loss of sex drive, & some other ones that I didn't even REALIZE were coming from the drug, such as more manic episodes in mood swings, paranoia that someone was going to kill me while i was in the shower, ringing bells & other noises that I couldn't figure out the source of, & as one person described it: objects that seemed to shimmer as if through heat.
>
> You'd think your doctor would tell you this shit!
>
> I recently received a free prescription for Celexa from Forest Pharmaceuticals, via a kind of scholarship program they offer. I am self medicating myself with 10 mg, because I was taking 20 mg before and I don't want to take as much this time.
>
> I started doing some research on the 'net today and the stuff I have been reading has scared me enough to seriously reconsider taking anti-depressants. I have only taken the pills three days this time around, I've been sick two of them. (Forgot about those pesky side effects from last time.)
>
> I've also started wondering how it is that a company can give out a free $265 value prescription. Kinda makes you wonder, eh?
>
> So...
>
> Do you have any solutions aside from drugs to offer me? I have been considering trying Kava Kava or St. John's Wort. I am generally emotionally healthy, but I seem to get very depressed in the winter. Also, my best friend recently committed suicide (April 2002) so I am still dealing with that trauma.
>
> What do you think of taking Celexa through the winter and then gradually cutting my dosage starting in March? Or are the side effects such that I should just find another alternative? Any advice you have to offer would be appreciated and well-considered.
>
> Thanks...
>
> moira
Posted by Chris Brown on November 6, 2003, at 16:23:02
In reply to Re: alcohol and celexa, posted by liz on April 12, 2000, at 9:37:16
>My sister takes Paxil and her labeling says quite clearly not to use ANY alcohol. >Personally, I think that if you seem to tolerate a moderate amount of wine and there is nothing in the literature that does more than caution, I wouldn't let it worry me.
You should be able to drink on Paxil, it should just lower your tolerance. I've been on it, and I have a friend who is on it, and neither of us had any problems with alcohol. It just means it costs less to get drunk :)
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