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Posted by John1022 on October 1, 2003, at 21:06:20
I have been having a tinnitus problem that has seemed to be brought on by magic mushroom use (which I am ashamed of and will now swear against the rest of my life). I also feel I have a drop in seretonin coinciding with the tinnitus caused by the mushrooms as they happened on the same day after taking the mushrooms.
The doctor prescribed me Zinc, Copper, B-Complex and Cytotec. The Cytotec he says should be taken at 200 mcg four times a day to possibly rid my body of any toxins caused by the mushrooms.
Does this sound like a kosher prescription? Would I still possibly have toxins in my body two months after taking mushrooms that could be causing tinnitus?
I am a little worried at having to take this drug four times a day for a month when it has been shown to kill fetuses and cause abortions in women in the past. Sound a little risky?
I almost think he is confusing magic mushrooms for actual poisnous/deadly mushrooms, which I obviously have not consumed.
Any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 0:32:27
In reply to Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by John1022 on October 1, 2003, at 21:06:20
I also feel I have a drop in seretonin coinciding with the tinnitus caused by the mushrooms as they happened on the same day after taking the mushrooms.
>The actives in these kind of mushrooms passed
through your body in a day, so it is gone now.
Posted by John1022 on October 2, 2003, at 7:54:19
In reply to Re: Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 0:32:27
Thanks Stjames. I definitely know the actives like psilocybin passed through my body quickly, but could there be any toxins left?
Do you think it was the wrong idea for him to prescribe this medication for this length of time (1 month)?
Is Cytotec relatively harmless?
Could the ringing have something to do with me not being able to react to Effexor now when I have in the past? It is giving me opposite effects of feeling EXREMELY terrible and depressed and is making the ringing worse to the point where my hearing got really sensitive and I was hearing ringing from tv's and computers very loudly.
Last question, do you, or anyone else know if the tinnitus isn't hearing damage related if it might eventually go away.
Thanks
Posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 11:22:53
In reply to Re: Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by John1022 on October 2, 2003, at 7:54:19
> Thanks Stjames. I definitely know the actives like psilocybin passed through my body quickly, but could there be any toxins left?
There were not any yoxins to begin with, so no.
>
> Do you think it was the wrong idea for him to prescribe this medication for this length of time (1 month)?
>
> Is Cytotec relatively harmless?
>Don't know anything about Cytotec, sorry.
> Could the ringing have something to do with me not being able to react to Effexor now when I have in the past?
No.
Posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 13:27:39
In reply to Re: Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 11:22:53
Sounds like Cytotec is for ulcers, so it has noting to do with any of the things you posted here.
Cytotec (misoprostol) is a synthetic prostaglandin E1 analogue which has been used to treat gastrointestinal difficulties. According to the editorial advisors of OBGYN.net , "It's FDA (Food and Drug Administration) approved indication is for the prevention of stomach ulcers in patients taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs." Developed by the G.D. Searle & Company in the 1970's, Cytotec has been approved and is available in approximately 70 countries with nearly 20 considering approval. In Brazil, misoprostol is for sale over the counter in pharmacies and has been for 14 years. In France, it is used in combination with RU486 (mifepristone) to increase the success of abortions up to 90%.
Posted by crazychickuk on October 2, 2003, at 14:02:35
In reply to Re: Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 13:27:39
wow spin out, i was also given this for 1 week 4 years ago to help me poop!! i would do what the doc says... sometimes they no best BUT go get a second opinion and ask for some other med instead of effexor cus tinitus is a side affect.....
p.s....... i did mushrooms yrs yrs and yrs ago.. i was fine afterwards after a big trip.. suffering now though due to back flashes..
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on October 2, 2003, at 15:15:17
In reply to Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea?, posted by John1022 on October 1, 2003, at 21:06:20
> The doctor prescribed me Zinc, Copper, B-Complex and Cytotec. The Cytotec he says should be taken at 200 mcg four times a day to possibly rid my body of any toxins caused by the mushrooms.
As another poster already mentioned, there are no toxins in psilocybe mushrooms. They are safe in extremely large doses.
> Does this sound like a kosher prescription? Would I still possibly have toxins in my body two months after taking mushrooms that could be causing tinnitus?Sounds like a bunch of crap to me -- I'd seek a second opinion. Benzodiazepines are often helpful (Klonopin and Restoril seem to be those most often employed in treatment, usually Klonopin during the day and Restoril for sleep). Blood-thinning medication, like Coumadin, is also helpful.
There are ways to treat this yourself without any prescriptions -- aspirin is one of the most helpful methods of reducing tinnitus. And though I don't recall the reason for this, I read a while back that a non-alcoholic beer in the evening can reduce or eradicate the symptoms for days. Also quite helpful are herbal tranquilizers -- especially valerian root combined with passion flower. Kava kava, lemon balm, and skullcap can be equally effective. Hypnosis has proven a viable option as well. Finally, vitamin A is helpful for many -- just be sure to use the beta-carotene form only.
One more thing -- avoid CNS stimulants of any type: amphetamines, methylphenidate, caffeine, ephedrine, MSG, etc. These all tend to worsen symptoms.
> I almost think he is confusing magic mushrooms for actual poisnous/deadly mushrooms, which I obviously have not consumed.
Sounds likely -- any medical professional should know that psilocybe mushrooms are non-toxic.
Posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 16:48:36
In reply to Re: Prescribed Cytotec? is this a good idea? » John1022, posted by Ame Sans Vie on October 2, 2003, at 15:15:17
aspirin is one of the most helpful methods of reducing tinnitus.
Really ? Too much asprin causes tinnitus.
Tinnitus by itself is not a consern, unless it
is bothering you. It is more common in males.
I have lived with it for years and it causes me
no problems. Aging and high sound levels are the common causes. Any sounds above 120-130 dB can will cause hearing damage , and this sound level is quite common. Any club with music, concert, loud stereos, ect will be at this level and above. Once sound levels go to 120-130 dB for
seveal mins you are damaging your hearing. A common result is tinnitus.
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