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Posted by Cam W. on October 20, 2001, at 3:04:25
In reply to Cam- Read your column!, posted by Daveman on October 20, 2001, at 2:29:40
Thanks Dave - I wrote that column because there are a lot of pharmacists out there who still think that mental illnesses are not treatable disorders. The stigma associated with mental illness runs deep in our culture. Many pharmacists are scared of their mentally ill patients.
Even the pharmacist I work with (who is also a Doctor of Naturopathy) says that anyone who takes Prozac is a nutcase and feels that those with schizophrenia should be locked up for the safety of the public (this coming from a guy who believes that water has a memory). I told him that I am taking Effexor, so I must be one of those nutcases he is talking about. He said no, that my depression was understandable, because my daughter had died. When I told him that I had had depressive episodes long long before my daughter's accident, he changed the subject.
This guy also looks down his nose at the boss's sone who was recently diagnosed (2 or 3 years ago) with schizophrenia. He also pushes away the affectionate mentally-challenged patient we have at the store, who often comes in with his mom. He will take this kid's money, but the doesn't warrant any affection back.
Man, I feel sorry for people like my colleague; being close-minded really does rob one of living life to the fullest.
- Cam
Posted by sjharve62 on October 21, 2001, at 0:56:34
In reply to Re: Cam- Read your column! » Daveman, posted by Cam W. on October 20, 2001, at 3:04:25
> Daveman-I cannot thank you enough for the article!!! I have repeatedly tried to explain these "zaps" to people, even doctors, and they just looked at me like I was just hallucinating. I am going to print it and take it to a doctor and see if there is anything that anyone can do for me-my "zaps" have been going on intermittantly for about six years-since I got off of zoloft. They are just so hard to explain that I have stopped trying, and just try to live with it, but I am getting worried because they have lasted so long.
Thanks again for the article.Cam,I am so sorry for your loss.
Janie
Posted by Cecilia on October 21, 2001, at 4:10:02
In reply to Re: Cam- Read your column! » Daveman, posted by Cam W. on October 20, 2001, at 3:04:25
> Thanks Dave - I wrote that column because there are a lot of pharmacists out there who still think that mental illnesses are not treatable disorders. The stigma associated with mental illness runs deep in our culture. Many pharmacists are scared of their mentally ill patients.
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> Even the pharmacist I work with (who is also a Doctor of Naturopathy) says that anyone who takes Prozac is a nutcase and feels that those with schizophrenia should be locked up for the safety of the public (this coming from a guy who believes that water has a memory). I told him that I am taking Effexor, so I must be one of those nutcases he is talking about. He said no, that my depression was understandable, because my daughter had died. When I told him that I had had depressive episodes long long before my daughter's accident, he changed the subject.
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> This guy also looks down his nose at the boss's sone who was recently diagnosed (2 or 3 years ago) with schizophrenia. He also pushes away the affectionate mentally-challenged patient we have at the store, who often comes in with his mom. He will take this kid's money, but the doesn't warrant any affection back.
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> Man, I feel sorry for people like my colleague; being close-minded really does rob one of living life to the fullest.
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> - CamCam, your article was interesting, but I think the role of the pharmacist in Canada must be very different than in the U.S. I would feel violated if a pharmacist decided to talk to me about my treatment plan or called my doctor about whether my meds were working!
Posted by Jackster on October 22, 2001, at 4:09:56
In reply to Cam- Read your column!, posted by Daveman on October 20, 2001, at 2:29:40
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> I must admit though, it is a bit strange being recognized and greeted by name by my pharmacist!
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I got the shock of my life when one of the pharmacy assistants addressed me by name when I just walked in with a friend who was buying some pain medication. I guess that's part of being a regular visitor - the pharmicist there is really good - and here I was thinking I was just another customer.Jackie
Posted by Katie Bourdeau on October 23, 2001, at 10:14:15
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Merv on April 8, 2000, at 14:50:01
I am 17 years old and am on Zoloft. My Doctor prescribed it to me though I know It is not recommended for people under 18 years of age. I have been on and off Zoloft twice. I was on Zoloft and switched to Paxil which I did not care for due to the fact that my mom is on Paxil and finds it hard to get off. I then switched back to Zoloft which I am quite happy with. I have not experienced any side effects. Though I am scared of withdrawal. I don't believe that I will stop taking Zoloft anytime soon, but this is a concern for me. I also find that if I miss one day without taking my pill I get extreamly depressed. But as of now I am a happy person and haven't been checked into the hospital for six months. Go Zoloft!!!
Posted by Kwind on October 24, 2001, at 9:28:57
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by SW on October 5, 2000, at 20:07:54
Well,I started weaning myself from Zoloft about 2 weeks ago. I have been feeling horrible. But, that is not reason I am writing.I first came here to find out the exact symtoms to comming off the zoloft, to see if the ones I was having were normal.Because, like everyone else, I am getting no info from my doctor.I had no plan to respond. But, I have to say that I strongly suggest not getting on these happy pills to begin with.(I know,from experience easier said than done.) I have been on them for 2 years.And in those 2 years, I've realized that these pills have NOT helped me at all, only covered up the problems, So, really I suggest getting some other kind of help before even starting these mind alltering DRUGS. I relize that there are people who think these pills help them,I'm guilty of this same feeling,but they don't I still have the same problems,that I had two years ago. I just know now that A pill is not going to take them away.I hope that I'm not offending anyone because, I am not trying to. I just really want people to see this medication for what it is . A temporary solution!!!! I guess unless,you plan to take it forever. I also, know other people who have taken this same medication and had the exact problems actually,worse than mine own experience. The only problem I see now is finding a alternative to taking medication. I really have no plans,But,I do know that I will NEVER take Zolft or any other like it no matter what this crazy life sends my way.
Posted by LyndaK on October 26, 2001, at 23:08:47
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Kwind on October 24, 2001, at 9:28:57
Hi Kwind,
I haven't reviewed the whole thread here, just read your message. I've been off and on Zoloft for over 5 years now (tried other AD's here and there). For the most part I agree with what you've said. These pills are not a "cure" much as the insurance companies would like them to be. But I'm not sure I would've done as well in my therapy sessions (or stayed semi-functional in my life) if I hadn't had the meds on-board. I think meds, a good therapist, and the determination to accept-understand-and make changes is the best combination for recovery.
Best wishes in your search for what works for you.
Lynda
> Well,I started weaning myself from Zoloft about 2 weeks ago. I have been feeling horrible. But, that is not reason I am writing.I first came here to find out the exact symtoms to comming off the zoloft, to see if the ones I was having were normal.Because, like everyone else, I am getting no info from my doctor.I had no plan to respond. But, I have to say that I strongly suggest not getting on these happy pills to begin with.(I know,from experience easier said than done.) I have been on them for 2 years.And in those 2 years, I've realized that these pills have NOT helped me at all, only covered up the problems, So, really I suggest getting some other kind of help before even starting these mind alltering DRUGS. I relize that there are people who think these pills help them,I'm guilty of this same feeling,but they don't I still have the same problems,that I had two years ago. I just know now that A pill is not going to take them away.I hope that I'm not offending anyone because, I am not trying to. I just really want people to see this medication for what it is . A temporary solution!!!! I guess unless,you plan to take it forever. I also, know other people who have taken this same medication and had the exact problems actually,worse than mine own experience. The only problem I see now is finding a alternative to taking medication. I really have no plans,But,I do know that I will NEVER take Zolft or any other like it no matter what this crazy life sends my way.
Posted by scutterbut on November 19, 2001, at 12:03:44
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by MaddieGrace on October 18, 2001, at 11:56:00
My God! This sight has saved my sanity ironically! I've been on Zoloft for about 6 years. I worked my way up to 100mg. per day. Recently, i went to my Dr. with the desire to become "drug free". The reasons for Zoloft no longer existed.I had also gone through therapy for awhile for depression. He agreed, and started my decline. I went down to 50mg/day for one week. Then 25mg./day for 1 week. I even went as far as 12.5 mg/day for a week, just to ensure i was taking every possible precaution of weaning myself off the right way. I took my last dose last Friday. I was experiencing mild "dizzy spells" all along the process, but over the weekend i thought i was losing my mind! The dizzy spells(for lack of a better description)became so intense, i was afraid to leave my house for fear of fainting or blacking out while driving. I also experienced sparadic "crying episodes" for no reason. I think i even frightened my daughters. Then last night, i awoke at least 4 times with the sensation of "drowning and gasping for breath".
I don't want to go back to taking any Zoloft, especially if these symptoms will eventually fade. Does it differ in the length of time it takes?
As far as my sex drive, it came back almost immediately, and it couldn't be better. My boyfriend(God bless him) has been most patient with me over the years, and now he can reap the benefits, but so can I!!! I've tried several different hormonal programs, such as EStratest(which caused severe acne over my entire face & back) and also did not work, and also external creme which was supposed to be applied every night. That didn't work either. My only answer was going off the Zoloft.
Please confirm that these withdrawal symptoms will go away for me. If and when they do, i intend to let everyone know that contrary to what the Doctors say, withdrawal from Zoloft most definitely exists, and warn these poor unsuspecting candidates to what lies in store for them in order to prepare them ahead of time!
Posted by svevo1922 on November 19, 2001, at 16:48:37
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft » MaddieGrace, posted by scutterbut on November 19, 2001, at 12:03:44
I have been taking 100 milligrams of Zoloft (down from 200 milligrams) for the last six weeks or so. I recently ran out and have been too depressed and disorganized to get a refill. I made sure, however, to call my doctor to confirm that such an abrupt withdrawal would not cause serious problems in my brain chemistry. He said that it would not, although the withdrawal would be very unpleasant. It was: among other symptoms, I had very bad headaches and thought I was going to lose my balance more than once (orthostatic hypotension, I think it's called). I also experienced some disturbing dreams, but that might have been caused by another medication.
I called my doctor to check that going without the drug was o.k.because a few years ago I was taking a medication, whose name unfortunately escapes me, which would have been extremely dangerous to have stopped cold turkey. I was appalled when I looked up a definition of the "__ malignancy syndrome" that would have been caused by withdrawal and saw that some wag had described it as a frying of the brain. Great.
Zoloft, withdrawal, I reiterate, is just unpleasant. Or at least it is for the average person.
> My God! This sight has saved my sanity ironically! I've been on Zoloft for about 6 years. I worked my way up to 100mg. per day. Recently, i went to my Dr. with the desire to become "drug free". The reasons for Zoloft no longer existed.I had also gone through therapy for awhile for depression. He agreed, and started my decline. I went down to 50mg/day for one week. Then 25mg./day for 1 week. I even went as far as 12.5 mg/day for a week, just to ensure i was taking every possible precaution of weaning myself off the right way. I took my last dose last Friday. I was experiencing mild "dizzy spells" all along the process, but over the weekend i thought i was losing my mind! The dizzy spells(for lack of a better description)became so intense, i was afraid to leave my house for fear of fainting or blacking out while driving. I also experienced sparadic "crying episodes" for no reason. I think i even frightened my daughters. Then last night, i awoke at least 4 times with the sensation of "drowning and gasping for breath".
> I don't want to go back to taking any Zoloft, especially if these symptoms will eventually fade. Does it differ in the length of time it takes?
> As far as my sex drive, it came back almost immediately, and it couldn't be better. My boyfriend(God bless him) has been most patient with me over the years, and now he can reap the benefits, but so can I!!! I've tried several different hormonal programs, such as EStratest(which caused severe acne over my entire face & back) and also did not work, and also external creme which was supposed to be applied every night. That didn't work either. My only answer was going off the Zoloft.
> Please confirm that these withdrawal symptoms will go away for me. If and when they do, i intend to let everyone know that contrary to what the Doctors say, withdrawal from Zoloft most definitely exists, and warn these poor unsuspecting candidates to what lies in store for them in order to prepare them ahead of time!
Posted by Kwind on November 21, 2001, at 10:41:27
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft » MaddieGrace, posted by scutterbut on November 19, 2001, at 12:03:44
Well, I have been completely off the zoloft for about 3 weeks now, I just, finally got fed up and decided to just quite. I'd been weaning myself for about 2 weeks. I feel, alot better. Still have a few little side effects,but it is nothing,compared to the side effects I once experienced,on and weeaning from the drug. To all out there who are weeaning don't let it go on forever if you can help it,because, that, is just it,IT WILL GO ON FOREVER!!! I speak,the truth. My ex-hushand has been trying to wean for a whole year,he is scared to death to completely stop. He is down to 12.5 and I really can't tell you how long he has been at that dose. Really I have no seceret ,I just made a decision: that I was'nt going to be still," just weaning" myself a year a year from now. And I tried to keep myself busy.Thats about it. Good luck to all.
Posted by petey on November 21, 2001, at 14:52:10
In reply to shedding a little light, posted by Kwind on November 21, 2001, at 10:41:27
> Well, I have been completely off the zoloft for about 3 weeks now, I just, finally got fed up and decided to just quite. I'd been weaning myself for about 2 weeks. I feel, alot better. Still have a few little side effects,but it is nothing,compared to the side effects I once experienced,on and weeaning from the drug. To all out there who are weeaning don't let it go on forever if you can help it,because, that, is just it,IT WILL GO ON FOREVER!!! I speak,the truth. My ex-hushand has been trying to wean for a whole year,he is scared to death to completely stop. He is down to 12.5 and I really can't tell you how long he has been at that dose. Really I have no seceret ,I just made a decision: that I was'nt going to be still," just weaning" myself a year a year from now. And I tried to keep myself busy.Thats about it. Good luck to all.
Hi,
I've been off Zoloft for 7 days now. Could you please tell me what withdrawal symptoms you experienced and how long until tou started feeling better? My main symptoms are fatigue and some anxiety. Have you experienced these and does it get better? Thank you!
Petey
Posted by DMC on December 10, 2001, at 23:06:09
In reply to Re: shedding a little light, posted by petey on November 21, 2001, at 14:52:10
I've dosed on 50mg/day for 3 years. I knew without a doubt that I was experiencing extreme withdrawal the first time I missed my dosage for two consecutive days. I mentioned this to several doctors who all said Zoloft is non-addictive. That is complete nonsense. Zoloft is a very powerful brain altering chemical, and obviously it follows that the brain will react to its absence after discontinuing its use.
Okay, while I once felt very positive toward zoloft, and acknowledge it helped me in a difficult time, I also feel that I should have stopped taking it a long time ago. I blame it now for fatigue, low sex drive (that's a cause for depression righ there, cause what a joy to get it back!) Anyway, just to let all of you know, I experienced severe and dibilitating brain sizzles, and dizziness when I tried to go cold turkey. It felt like I was being sucked out of my consciousness by a river and jolted back several times an hour.
Six weeks ago, I went to one 50mg every third day. I felt rough for the first 6 days, a little better from 6-12, a little better from 12-24 and went cold turkey after about 5 weeks of one every third day.
I've been cold turkey for 10 days now. I have noticed very mild and infrequent "zapping" and dizziness, but it is tolerable. I have had a mildly upset stomach as well. My insomnia is the most annoying symptom, yet I can handle that temporarily.Oddly, I have a cold for the first time in about two years, and feel that its related to my withdrawal.
Bottom line is Zoloft is powerful, and should be used with discretion. I don't believe it should be used long-term, but I understand it my be the only solution for some people.
I suggest weaning, but not forever, at some point you have to bear a little discomfort. Just realize that it is only temporary. Don't be frightened, just march forward knowing its not you, but the drugs that are causing the discomfort.
Thanks to all the other posts, that have shed light on these symptoms. For me, the withdrawal was a more alarming response than the psychological discomfort that led me to go on Zoloft. I hope the medical community continues to address this problem, although I imagine there is an active force in the industry trying to sweep this reality under the rug. That, more than anything is what makes me want to stop using this drug. It's a real shame that these companies profit so much from illness. I can honestly say that I have felt pressure to continue using this drug from the medical community. That is how I know I'm better without it.
Good luck to all the others who feel that the drug has done its job, and that its time to move on in the drug free consciousness. God Bless.
Posted by petey on December 11, 2001, at 4:24:58
In reply to Re: shedding a little light, posted by DMC on December 10, 2001, at 23:06:09
> I've dosed on 50mg/day for 3 years. I knew without a doubt that I was experiencing extreme withdrawal the first time I missed my dosage for two consecutive days. I mentioned this to several doctors who all said Zoloft is non-addictive. That is complete nonsense. Zoloft is a very powerful brain altering chemical, and obviously it follows that the brain will react to its absence after discontinuing its use.
> Okay, while I once felt very positive toward zoloft, and acknowledge it helped me in a difficult time, I also feel that I should have stopped taking it a long time ago. I blame it now for fatigue, low sex drive (that's a cause for depression righ there, cause what a joy to get it back!) Anyway, just to let all of you know, I experienced severe and dibilitating brain sizzles, and dizziness when I tried to go cold turkey. It felt like I was being sucked out of my consciousness by a river and jolted back several times an hour.
> Six weeks ago, I went to one 50mg every third day. I felt rough for the first 6 days, a little better from 6-12, a little better from 12-24 and went cold turkey after about 5 weeks of one every third day.
> I've been cold turkey for 10 days now. I have noticed very mild and infrequent "zapping" and dizziness, but it is tolerable. I have had a mildly upset stomach as well. My insomnia is the most annoying symptom, yet I can handle that temporarily.
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> Oddly, I have a cold for the first time in about two years, and feel that its related to my withdrawal.
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> Bottom line is Zoloft is powerful, and should be used with discretion. I don't believe it should be used long-term, but I understand it my be the only solution for some people.
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> I suggest weaning, but not forever, at some point you have to bear a little discomfort. Just realize that it is only temporary. Don't be frightened, just march forward knowing its not you, but the drugs that are causing the discomfort.
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> Thanks to all the other posts, that have shed light on these symptoms. For me, the withdrawal was a more alarming response than the psychological discomfort that led me to go on Zoloft. I hope the medical community continues to address this problem, although I imagine there is an active force in the industry trying to sweep this reality under the rug. That, more than anything is what makes me want to stop using this drug. It's a real shame that these companies profit so much from illness. I can honestly say that I have felt pressure to continue using this drug from the medical community. That is how I know I'm better without it.
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> Good luck to all the others who feel that the drug has done its job, and that its time to move on in the drug free consciousness. God Bless.I am now about 4 weeks Zoloft free. I am experiencing extreme fatigue and insomnia. Do you think this could still be due to withdrawal? I am only getting 3-4hrs. of sleep per night and it's really starting to take it's toll on me. It's hard to tell withdrawal from the symptoms of depression! I am so confused on what to do because it seems every med. that I take, brings on a whole new set of side-effects. It really scares me to try something else especially if this could possibly still be withdrawal. How long did it take for your withdrawal to end? What were your symptoms? I still feel somewhat emotionally blunted, but that ia getting a little better everyday. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! God bless,
Petey
Posted by kwind on December 11, 2001, at 12:00:26
In reply to Re: shedding a little light, posted by petey on December 11, 2001, at 4:24:58
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> PeteyI'm sorry that I did not write you back sooner. Ive been in the process of moving. i personally did'nt have as much problems sleeping ,I did but it was very mild compared to the other side effects.But however my ex-husband had very severe problems sleeping in fact he would get about an hour or two a night, I'm not exactly sure how long it lasted but I do know he called me several time in the middle of the night, saying that he was sure it was going to end up killing him. he ended up seeing a doc,who ened up putting him on sleeping pills. This was abot a year ago,and to my knowledge he still is NOT off the zoloft. I also wanted to let you know that from person experience zoloft is easier to get off of. Than alot of other drugs. So I would really think alot it seriouslly,before you start,well that is if you ever plan on getting off of it. The syptoms are very close to depression,or maybe it is depression I'm not sure maybe you should ask your doc,about a natural form of anti-depressant.
Posted by DMC on December 17, 2001, at 20:43:55
In reply to Re: shedding a little light, posted by kwind on December 11, 2001, at 12:00:26
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> I'm sorry that I did not write you back sooner. Ive been in the process of moving. i personally did'nt have as much problems sleeping ,I did but it was very mild compared to the other side effects.But however my ex-husband had very severe problems sleeping in fact he would get about an hour or two a night, I'm not exactly sure how long it lasted but I do know he called me several time in the middle of the night, saying that he was sure it was going to end up killing him. he ended up seeing a doc,who ened up putting him on sleeping pills. This was abot a year ago,and to my knowledge he still is NOT off the zoloft. I also wanted to let you know that from person experience zoloft is easier to get off of. Than alot of other drugs. So I would really think alot it seriouslly,before you start,well that is if you ever plan on getting off of it. The syptoms are very close to depression,or maybe it is depression I'm not sure maybe you should ask your doc,about a natural form of anti-depressant.
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I'm still experiencing sleep disturbances after nearly 3 weeks zoloft free, but I am finding it much better than I was in week 1. My biggest challenge right now seems to be managing aggravation during the day. I think that it will depend on how long you took zoloft for. I was about 3 and a half years, so based on that, I feel I am coping really well with the withdrawal symptoms I am experiencing. I think everyone has to expect some discomfort for some amount of time. It really boils down to many factors. I have resigned to put up with the withdrawal, as I feel I have much to gain when things settle down. Such as feeling my emotions again, and having a normal sex drive once again. I also felt that Zoloft was starting to contribute to general fatigue for me. I was yawning all the time recently unitl I stopped taking my zoloft. I find I have more energy now, even though I am not sleeping quite as well for the most part. I also am excercising (very, very important!! If your not excercising, please start even if its only 20 minutes every couple days). I am also eating healthier, and avoiding sugar for the most part. I would keep going if your withdrawal symptoms (which I'm pretty sure you are experiencing based on what you have described) are getting less intense overall. If you are finding it unmanageable, and very upsetting, than maybe you need to taper your dose down a little bit slower. I hope this is helpful, and if you want to talk more about it, email is: fragsta@hotmail.com
Posted by Sampson on December 29, 2001, at 22:05:35
In reply to withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Shelly on May 4, 1999, at 17:37:51
Here is how I successfully quit Zoloft without any withdrawal symptoms ( I took it for 4 years @ 50mg ).
I broke a 50mg pill in half, took 25mg in the a.m. and 25mg. in the p.m. I did this for about a month. Then, I would take 25mg. only one day and 50mg (25mg twice a day )the next. I alternated like this for about 2 weeks. After that I took only 25mg per day for about 2 more weeks. I started breaking a 25mg pill in half and took 12.5 in the a.m. and 12.5 in the p.m. I started alternating again ( 12.5mg one day...25mg the next) Did this for 2 weeks. THEN...12.5mg only per day for about 3 weeks. THEN..12.5mg every other day....12.5mg every two days....12.5mg every three days...then suddenly I didn't need it anymore. This is a painfully slow way to ease off of it with no symptoms...but worth the wait because it gives your brain time to adjust to life without medication anymore. You have time to learn to cope on your own.
Good luck everybody!
Posted by CMemming on January 25, 2002, at 18:13:29
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Tom Goode on September 27, 2000, at 9:21:51
I was prescribed 100mg/day of zoloft after my father committed suicide for life. I have since decided that I do not want to take drugs for the rest of my life and would like to take care of my predisposition for depression naturally with exercise and vitamins. I tried weaning myself off from 100mg to 50mg for two weeks. Then got impatient and went cold turkey after 25mgs for 3 days. I have been feeling extremely dizzy, nauseous and have been getting the chills. I even had to go home sick from work today. This website has been very helpful and I just barely took 50mgs and am going to try the 50/25 then 25/0 technique. Does anyone have any suggestions for easing my current discomfort? Also how many days does it take to feel better...and has anyone succeeded in getting off zoloft? This is the second time I have tried to get off this drug and the symptoms are unbearable...Thanks in advance.
Posted by BarbaraCat on January 27, 2002, at 12:39:18
In reply to Re: shedding a little light, posted by DMC on December 17, 2001, at 20:43:55
Here is a link that has some very interesting reading, giving some theories on the zaps, etc., and why excess serotonin is a nasty thing.
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/pinealstory.htm
I am coming off Remeron this time around because is was making me more depressed as well as fat. Had taken Zoloft in the past for 6 years at 200 mg and weaned myself off over a period of 6 months. Did this 3 times over the 6 year course. I actually stayed clear of it for a year feeling pretty darn good until life strongly intervened and I believed at that time that ADs were the only way I could cope.
I'm having the same zaps, whooshes, and crying spells as with all the other SSRI's and expect they will remain until my brain chemistry is healed. I have been resorting to Klonopin when the anxiety is really bad, but am limiting that as well. I have finally come to the conclusion after much research that SSRI's for me are very bad indeed. I'm only hoping my poor meddled with brain can recover. The real factors here will be eating for health, gentle exercise, lots of sleep and revisiting those jammed down repressed places that are the real cause of my depression - not some 'biological dysfunction'. Good luck and blessings to you all. We need each other's support through this time in hell.
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> > > I am now about 4 weeks Zoloft free. I am experiencing extreme fatigue and insomnia. Do you think this could still be due to withdrawal? I am only getting 3-4hrs. of sleep per night and it's really starting to take it's toll on me. It's hard to tell withdrawal from the symptoms of depression! I am so confused on what to do because it seems every med. that I take, brings on a whole new set of side-effects. It really scares me to try something else especially if this could possibly still be withdrawal. How long did it take for your withdrawal to end? What were your symptoms? I still feel somewhat emotionally blunted, but that ia getting a little better everyday. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! God bless,
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> > I'm sorry that I did not write you back sooner. Ive been in the process of moving. i personally did'nt have as much problems sleeping ,I did but it was very mild compared to the other side effects.But however my ex-husband had very severe problems sleeping in fact he would get about an hour or two a night, I'm not exactly sure how long it lasted but I do know he called me several time in the middle of the night, saying that he was sure it was going to end up killing him. he ended up seeing a doc,who ened up putting him on sleeping pills. This was abot a year ago,and to my knowledge he still is NOT off the zoloft. I also wanted to let you know that from person experience zoloft is easier to get off of. Than alot of other drugs. So I would really think alot it seriouslly,before you start,well that is if you ever plan on getting off of it. The syptoms are very close to depression,or maybe it is depression I'm not sure maybe you should ask your doc,about a natural form of anti-depressant.
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> I'm still experiencing sleep disturbances after nearly 3 weeks zoloft free, but I am finding it much better than I was in week 1. My biggest challenge right now seems to be managing aggravation during the day. I think that it will depend on how long you took zoloft for. I was about 3 and a half years, so based on that, I feel I am coping really well with the withdrawal symptoms I am experiencing. I think everyone has to expect some discomfort for some amount of time. It really boils down to many factors. I have resigned to put up with the withdrawal, as I feel I have much to gain when things settle down. Such as feeling my emotions again, and having a normal sex drive once again. I also felt that Zoloft was starting to contribute to general fatigue for me. I was yawning all the time recently unitl I stopped taking my zoloft. I find I have more energy now, even though I am not sleeping quite as well for the most part. I also am excercising (very, very important!! If your not excercising, please start even if its only 20 minutes every couple days). I am also eating healthier, and avoiding sugar for the most part. I would keep going if your withdrawal symptoms (which I'm pretty sure you are experiencing based on what you have described) are getting less intense overall. If you are finding it unmanageable, and very upsetting, than maybe you need to taper your dose down a little bit slower. I hope this is helpful, and if you want to talk more about it, email is: fragsta@hotmail.com
Posted by Coyote on January 28, 2002, at 11:31:13
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by CMemming on January 25, 2002, at 18:13:29
I tapered off of it over a 30 day period quite successfully once. Actually I switched to it for a few months from Effexor because Effexor is nearly impossible to get off of. Take it down 25 mgs per week. I ended up going back on it about 4 months later.
Posted by DMC on January 28, 2002, at 22:48:43
In reply to Another survivor and some zap theories, posted by BarbaraCat on January 27, 2002, at 12:39:18
Thanks for the link, and for sharing BCat. I just wanted to update on my experiences coming off zoloft. It is now nearly 3 months since I have taken any. I tapered rather quickly, but now can report that my withdrawal symptoms are non-existant. I still have my down days like everyone does, but I am really, really pleased with how I've been responding to drug free living. This time of year used to be just hell for me, and things are just looking pretty good. I'm happy to be more in touch with my inner workings now. Anyway ... it can work. I'll be sure to let you know if I go back on anything, but at this point I'm marching ahead with the intent to not go back on antidepressants. I'm comfortable just knowing they'll be there if things get really wild, but I really would rather stay away from them, and cope with other methods .. those being healthy living ... eating well, excercise, and confiding in people I can trust. For those having trouble with withdrawal symptoms ... it DOES get easier, and they will go away. Be well.
Posted by BarbaraCat on January 29, 2002, at 11:26:06
In reply to Re: Another survivor and some zap theories, posted by DMC on January 28, 2002, at 22:48:43
Great going and congrats! I'm on just a sliver of Remeron and so far so good. I know what you mean about being more in touch with inner workings. Listening to our inner guidance is what will heal us ultimately. Well, cheers to us! -- Barbara
> Thanks for the link, and for sharing BCat. I just wanted to update on my experiences coming off zoloft. It is now nearly 3 months since I have taken any. I tapered rather quickly, but now can report that my withdrawal symptoms are non-existant. I still have my down days like everyone does, but I am really, really pleased with how I've been responding to drug free living. This time of year used to be just hell for me, and things are just looking pretty good. I'm happy to be more in touch with my inner workings now. Anyway ... it can work. I'll be sure to let you know if I go back on anything, but at this point I'm marching ahead with the intent to not go back on antidepressants. I'm comfortable just knowing they'll be there if things get really wild, but I really would rather stay away from them, and cope with other methods .. those being healthy living ... eating well, excercise, and confiding in people I can trust. For those having trouble with withdrawal symptoms ... it DOES get easier, and they will go away. Be well.
Posted by Golda on February 2, 2002, at 22:04:33
In reply to withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Shelly on May 4, 1999, at 17:37:51
Tonight I am confused as I thought I won my battle to get off Zoloft. I tried to wean myself off 100mg very slowly. It didn't work so I did it cold turkey. I had the zaps and tingles and thought it was a heart problem as my pulse jumped very high every time they hit and just accepted them.
I thought I actually won after 2 1/2 months being off it. I got a cold that caused adult on-set asthma to kick-in, which went on to a full lung infection. My doctors tell me that to kick this infection, I have to go back on 100 mgs for the brain to fight it.
I'm shaking and have tremors through out the body, as if my sugar level is dropping too fast. I'm not sure if this is from the lung inhalers, prednisone or actually withdrawal from the Zoloft as I've been told.
I actually felt better before this infection hit and was able to wake up for work and had energy to actually get things done. Yes, I did notice that I clearly spoke my mind and my anger has bitten several people, but I don't want to be a pushover anymore. I'm not nasty, but I do say exactly how I feel, which is not like me. Usually I don't like conflicts and agree with everyone. Now I say it as I see it and my family doesn't like this side of me.
Has anyone had this shakiness after two months? It's the tremors and the shakiness that is scaring me. If it's the lung medication causing these problems, I'd rather stay off the Zoloft. I don't understand why I need the Zoloft to help me kick the lung infection.
I'm not really concerned about the angry, nasty side of me at this time. I figure that my family will have to put up with me and I will even out soon and counseling will help.
I really thought I won and am saddened to think that I have to go back on 100 mgs immediately.
Golda
Posted by LyndaK on February 3, 2002, at 21:02:09
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Golda on February 2, 2002, at 22:04:33
Golda,
First of all, the meds to treat asthma symptoms ABSOLUTELY give you the shakes! Your doc should've told you that if you've never been on them before and/or your pharmacy should've given you information on it.
As for going back on the Zoloft, I'm not sure why you have to do that. IF you are sleeping WELL at night (and during the day, if you need to), it seems like your immune system should be able to do its job. I know that there have been times that I have not been able to fight off a virus because my anxiety is messing up my ability to sleep well at night and is generally preventing my immune system from functioning well. In those cases, what I have done is to take a tranquilizer (Ativan) for a short period of time to knock down the anxiety and help me get the sleep I need. Once that is happening I am usually able to fight the infection completely within a week.
Hope you're feeling better soon.
Lynda
> Tonight I am confused as I thought I won my battle to get off Zoloft. I tried to wean myself off 100mg very slowly. It didn't work so I did it cold turkey. I had the zaps and tingles and thought it was a heart problem as my pulse jumped very high every time they hit and just accepted them.
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> I thought I actually won after 2 1/2 months being off it. I got a cold that caused adult on-set asthma to kick-in, which went on to a full lung infection. My doctors tell me that to kick this infection, I have to go back on 100 mgs for the brain to fight it.
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> I'm shaking and have tremors through out the body, as if my sugar level is dropping too fast. I'm not sure if this is from the lung inhalers, prednisone or actually withdrawal from the Zoloft as I've been told.
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> I actually felt better before this infection hit and was able to wake up for work and had energy to actually get things done. Yes, I did notice that I clearly spoke my mind and my anger has bitten several people, but I don't want to be a pushover anymore. I'm not nasty, but I do say exactly how I feel, which is not like me. Usually I don't like conflicts and agree with everyone. Now I say it as I see it and my family doesn't like this side of me.
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> Has anyone had this shakiness after two months? It's the tremors and the shakiness that is scaring me. If it's the lung medication causing these problems, I'd rather stay off the Zoloft. I don't understand why I need the Zoloft to help me kick the lung infection.
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> I'm not really concerned about the angry, nasty side of me at this time. I figure that my family will have to put up with me and I will even out soon and counseling will help.
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> I really thought I won and am saddened to think that I have to go back on 100 mgs immediately.
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> Golda
Posted by Ol JI on February 25, 2002, at 23:53:56
In reply to withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Shelly on May 4, 1999, at 17:37:51
After 2 years of various SSRI's but mainly Zoloft I too have the brain buzz. Turning my head or moving suddenly seems to accentuate it. I'm cold turkey and have no idea how long this will last but I am totally freaked about what I've been reading here ! What's going to be the long term effect of these Antidepressants? What happens in 20 years ? Is there permanent damage in the wake of all of this ? Half the medical community don't believe the brain buzz is happening. How about in our old age? Very disturbing news indeed. Who's accountable ? No one I suspect. Is there any news on what the long term effects might be ?
Posted by BarbaraCat on February 26, 2002, at 0:21:09
In reply to Re: withdrawal symptoms coming off zoloft, posted by Ol JI on February 25, 2002, at 23:53:56
Oh, wow, do I ever ask these same questions. I've tried stopping 6 times over the past 15 years and every time was brought to my knees. It brings up questions such as well, is this the natural progression of my disease and I need SSRI's or is it that my receptors are getting damaged and now I NEED SSRI's. It is scary. I'm glad that medical help is available, but I wonder what I'd be like if I'd never jumped on the original bandwagon. On a cheerier note, I have read that SSRI's reset the chronic stress loop in the amygdala and that they can be neuroprotective. Sure hope so. - Barbara
> After 2 years of various SSRI's but mainly Zoloft I too have the brain buzz. Turning my head or moving suddenly seems to accentuate it. I'm cold turkey and have no idea how long this will last but I am totally freaked about what I've been reading here ! What's going to be the long term effect of these Antidepressants? What happens in 20 years ? Is there permanent damage in the wake of all of this ? Half the medical community don't believe the brain buzz is happening. How about in our old age? Very disturbing news indeed. Who's accountable ? No one I suspect. Is there any news on what the long term effects might be ?
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