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Posted by sl on June 5, 2001, at 14:26:16
Does anyone know, does a multivitamin EXIST that's got the higher recommended supplements of B vitamins for people with depression?
sl
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 5, 2001, at 22:19:29
In reply to Vitamins, posted by sl on June 5, 2001, at 14:26:16
> Does anyone know, does a multivitamin EXIST that's got the higher recommended supplements of B vitamins for people with depression?
>
> slDear sl,
How much are you taking?? I take a B-complex
with extra B-6 and B-12 plus extra Pantothenic
Acid. I take 100-150mg of B-6; 1,000mg (sub-lingual
form/ twice a day),and Pantothenic acid,
500 mg.
Glenn
Posted by sl on June 6, 2001, at 0:16:12
In reply to Re: Vitamins, posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 5, 2001, at 22:19:29
I WAS taking both a regular multivitamin AND a b-50 supplement. But I need to buy a new multivitamin and I figured there must be one with everything in one, but..but I can't FIND it.
Not specifically designed for folks with depression, anyway. I can go for some kinda "super" or "mega" type but those mostly have stuff I've never heard of in them and that makes me nervous. :/I also couldn't find the specific recommendations for amounts. I THINK this b-complex I was taking had the recommended amounts, but I'm not sure anymore.
To answer your question:
b1 50mg
b2 50mg
b6 50mg
b12 50mcg
niacinamide 50mg
folic acid 400 mcg
d-biotin 50mg
pantothenic acid 50mg
---and the stuff I don't know about that's also included.....
choline bitartrate 50mg
inositol 50mcg
PABA 50mg.Any thoughts?
sl
> > Does anyone know, does a multivitamin EXIST that's got the higher recommended supplements of B vitamins for people with depression?
> How much are you taking?? I take a B-complex
> with extra B-6 and B-12 plus extra Pantothenic
> Acid. I take 100-150mg of B-6; 1,000mg (sub-lingual
> form/ twice a day),and Pantothenic acid,
> 500 mg.
> Glenn
>
>
>
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 6, 2001, at 0:48:59
In reply to Re: Vitamins, posted by sl on June 6, 2001, at 0:16:12
> I WAS taking both a regular multivitamin AND a b-50 supplement. But I need to buy a new multivitamin and I figured there must be one with everything in one, but..but I can't FIND it.
> Not specifically designed for folks with depression, anyway. I can go for some kinda "super" or "mega" type but those mostly have stuff I've never heard of in them and that makes me nervous. :/
>
> I also couldn't find the specific recommendations for amounts. I THINK this b-complex I was taking had the recommended amounts, but I'm not sure anymore.
>
> To answer your question:
> b1 50mg
> b2 50mg
> b6 50mg
> b12 50mcg
> niacinamide 50mg
> folic acid 400 mcg
> d-biotin 50mg
> pantothenic acid 50mg
> ---and the stuff I don't know about that's also included.....
> choline bitartrate 50mg
> inositol 50mcg
> PABA 50mg.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> slDear sl,
Those dosages are very typical of a
B-complex. Companies that make B-complexes
do not give you strong dosages of any of the
vitamins within the complex. So....I take
extra B-6, B-12 and pantothenic acid.
I would highly recommend a book to you
that should be in the health food store.
It's called "Prescription for Nutritional
Healing". It costs around $24. You might
first want to try to pick it up at the
library. Let me know how things go.
Glenn
>
> > > Does anyone know, does a multivitamin EXIST that's got the higher recommended supplements of B vitamins for people with depression?
> > How much are you taking?? I take a B-complex
> > with extra B-6 and B-12 plus extra Pantothenic
> > Acid. I take 100-150mg of B-6; 1,000mg (sub-lingual
> > form/ twice a day),and Pantothenic acid,
> > 500 mg.
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> >
Posted by sl on June 6, 2001, at 10:38:34
In reply to Vitamins, posted by sl on June 5, 2001, at 14:26:16
I'll revamp this question, maybe someone can answer it.
What are the recommended dosages of B vitamins for depression?
Or, could someone find the post from a nurse who recommended B vitamins...? I couldn't find that one. :/sl
Posted by Neal on June 7, 2001, at 0:55:30
In reply to Re: Suggested Dosage of B Vitamins for Depression!, posted by sl on June 6, 2001, at 10:38:34
I don't know if B vitamins help depression, but I know they help with anxiety. Anybody with anxiety problems should be taking B vites.
One good B supplement can be found at www.vrp.com, a badly designed site, but do a search for "B-plex".
BTW, too much B-6 can cause nerve damage, I read somewhere.
Posted by sl on June 7, 2001, at 8:29:39
In reply to Re: B Vitamins for Depression, posted by Neal on June 7, 2001, at 0:55:30
> BTW, too much B-6 can cause nerve damage, I read somewhere.So I went looking, and this is what I found...
"Large intakes of supplements, 2,000 to 6,000 mg daily for 2 to 40 months, have been associated with nerve damage."
I'm only taking 130mg/day, INCLUDING my b-supplement and multivitamin.
I did finally decide on a multivitamin tailored to a woman's menstrual cycle with extra b-vits at certain times of the month, and extra other stuff at other times. And I moved up to a b-100 complex instead of b-50. That should cover all the bases. :)
Thanks for the input!
sl
Posted by rajesh on June 8, 2001, at 1:55:49
In reply to Re: B Vitamins for Depression, posted by sl on June 7, 2001, at 8:29:39
folic acid does good
Posted by Neal on June 8, 2001, at 22:56:23
In reply to Re: B Vitamins for Depression, posted by rajesh on June 8, 2001, at 1:55:49
And there's the added advantage of having bright yellow pee . . . . . . .
Posted by Cam W. on June 8, 2001, at 23:28:42
In reply to Vitamins, posted by sl on June 5, 2001, at 14:26:16
sl - The only way B-complex vitamins would work for depression is perhaps if you were short of a specific B-vitamin. The B-complex vitamins help maintain the mylen sheath which make up the white of white nerve fibres.
Intact myelin sheathes help conduct nerve signals faster, along the long sensory and motor nerve fibres. The electic signal along these nerve fibres jumps over the myelin sheathes and propagates the action potential (nerve signal) in breaks between myelin sheaths called the nodes of Ranvier. The myeline sheath is itself a specialized cell called a Schwann cell.
When the myelin sheath is not not intact, the nerve signals are transmitted more erratically. This is seen in disorders like multiple sclerosis, where the myelin sheath degenerates to the point of the nerve fibre becoming useless.
- Cam
P.S. If the yellow pee from B- and C-vitamins were any brighter, you would not need to turn on the light at night to go to the bathroom (not really).
Posted by Willow on June 9, 2001, at 13:34:09
In reply to Re: Vitamins » sl, posted by Cam W. on June 8, 2001, at 23:28:42
"The only way B-complex vitamins would work for depression is perhaps if you were short of a specific B-vitamin."
Cam, I would like anothe one of your opinions, please!
I'm not deficient in vit B12, but do require shots. The doctor has measured my levels and I need to be around the 1400 or 1600 to function, which is higher then normal. Any guesses on why? Older people too use these shots, why?
Willow
Posted by Cam W. on June 9, 2001, at 14:38:53
In reply to Cam short of?, posted by Willow on June 9, 2001, at 13:34:09
Willow - Perhaps your body doesn't use vitamin B-12 as efficiently as it should. Or it could be that the measurement of B-12 in the blood is not a direct measure of the amount of B-12 in a Schwann cell (or other places the B-complex vitamins are used). In either case, you would need higher blood levels of B-12. These are just guesses and may not actually be what is going on, but hey, they sound good. - Cam
Posted by Willow on June 9, 2001, at 17:25:18
In reply to Re: Cam short of? » Willow, posted by Cam W. on June 9, 2001, at 14:38:53
but hey, they sound good."
For years different doctors have told me that it can't do no harm. And your guess sounds like it has merit.
Thanks again!
Willow
ps do you prefer Moslon or Labatts? i'll send you a six pack for your help! on the effexor I don't think a whole 2-4 would be healthy. :0
Posted by Autumn Despotis on June 10, 2001, at 11:25:49
In reply to Vitamins, posted by sl on June 5, 2001, at 14:26:16
My dad is bipolar, I'm a chip off the old block. Or maybe a shard of glass lefteover from the old block. Either way, he stopped taking meds for bipolar disorder many years ago after he had a nervous breakdown. He started getting vitamin B shots,
no, not the ones that had speed in them, but just the vitamins! So, now I'm nearing the age when all hell broke loose for him, and it seems to be playing itself out in the same manner.
I'm taking prescription meds, but I am also taking a high potency multi-vitamin & mineral supplement with
Vitamin B6 3mg. 150%
Vitamin B12 12mcg 200%
Those are both combined in that multi vitamin. I am also taking a time release version of
B12 1000mcg 16,666% (sounds satanic or something, but it's really on the bottle that way!! LOL)I don't know if they're helping me, but I figure they can't hurt, and it makes my dad happy!
Good luck!
Autumn
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