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Posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
Karen
Posted by chloe on April 18, 2001, at 19:27:47
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
My mother in law has such a sensitivity. If she eats any sugar, flour, all the things you mentioned she gets physically ill, which does lead to a mental depression.
My understanding is that the yeast infection is in her gut, and by eating her "purified" diet, she can keep the infection at bay. It is a difficult diet to stick too. But she does it. Even though the holidays. Her health is worth it to her.
I really don't know much about the subject...But I am sharing what I know.
Best of luck
Chloe
Posted by vlvtelvis on April 18, 2001, at 20:28:33
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
You might want to get a second opinion. There isn't a lot of proof that candida is responsible for most of the things it's often claimed to be.
There is no scientific validity for acupressure either.
Read this: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/candida.html
Actualy, check out the other stuff on the site as well.
A lot of people are out there passing themselves off as "alternative" health care providers who are just taking advantage of people who are desperate enough to try anything.
Good Luck
> Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
>
> I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
>
> She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
>
> To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
>
> Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
>
> So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
>
> Karen
Posted by JasonL on April 19, 2001, at 10:48:19
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
> Karen,
Your post excites me. I have been studying the environmental factors like candidia albicans fungus and its implications in mental function. On a larger scope it is well documented that mental health problems can be associated with various problems in the body: low blood sugar, poor digestion, food alergies, leaky gut, food intolerances like gluten intolerance, heavy metal toxixity, ph imbalance, metabolic problems.
Do you really want to know my opinion on this subject? I think doctors and psychiatrists are looking in the wrong direnction. They have studied the brain very well, but western science has done a realatively poor job of helping patients become well. Doctors do well at trying to mask symptoms or cutting things out of the body....but in terms of creating health and balance and vitality...the US as a country suffers more degenerative disease than any other first world nation...
Please look into things like: metabolic typing diets, food alergies, heavy metal toxicity, fatty acid imbalances...I did a recent look at celiac disease...did you know that the untreated symptoms of celiac disease could read right out of the DSM for ADHD, ADD, depression, anxiety. Undoubtedly, if you look at Candidia and the works of Dr. Truss (famous for bringing attention to Candidia) you will see the same symptoms in Cadidia as well.
This points to an even larger problem that western psychiatry has failed to adress. If your immune systom is being compromised by food alergies, pathogenic bacteria, poor metabolism, eating the wrong foods for your body type, then your entire system is operating at less than full potential. The brain, psychiatrists forget, does not stand alone and apart from the health of the other organns. Any look at tradition, holistic medicine from cultures all around the world will reveal that the brain is not treated seperately from the other organs of the body. Hence, in Chinease medicine, emotional problems are halped by trying to create balance....no not in the synapse as western doctors would have you believe, but with imbalance in the other ten organs of the body. Remove the problems from the gut, clean out the liver, strengthen the kidney...your brain can function better. You fucntion better.
But I ramble. it just frustrates me. Anyway, there is a lot more to be discovered...and it might be a simple as knowing which foods to eat and which foods not to eat for your particular body and nutrional needs...my needs and your needs are as unique as our fingerprints.
Jason Lohr
Posted by Chris A. on April 19, 2001, at 14:31:23
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
Dear Karen,
According to these practicioners < < everyone > > has systemic candida. I beg you not to waste your time, money, etc. It's never a bad thing to cut down on excess sugars and refined carbs, but the rest can endanger your health. Allergies are histamine reactions. There is no evidence of histamine reactions in the vast majority of those diagnosed with systemic candida. Did this doctor offer any leads to controlled research? No, because the chief proponents have no interest in doing any. It's just a way for them to make money. They should be ashamed to call themselves docs or "nutritionists." I know so many people that have been told they are allergic to dairy products and aren't getting enough calcium as a result. Welcome to a real health problem - osteoporosis.
BTW, antifungals often prescribed by these 'docs' can put you into hepatic failure. Healthy? Not!
The acupressure test you underwent cannot reveal systemic organ stress. The machine has no such capbilities. It was designed to help relieve pain. Perhaps this doc is deceiving herself. This is a matter that should go the board of health and medical examiner's office. I've just seen too many people misled and a few actually physically damaged. For a second opinion please see an allergist/immunologist. Seriously.You can only guess what kind of mood I'm in! It's one of those 'issues' I react to. It makes me plain down mad.
Your Friend (I want you to follow your dubious instincts),Chris A.
P.S. The primary danger of this "diagnosis" and treatment is that people won't seek valid treatment for illness. I am watching this happen with a little boy right now. I've kept my mouth shut, but have been praying for him and his parents a lot. This boy is an innocent victim.
Posted by Noa on April 19, 2001, at 15:24:00
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc? » KarenB, posted by Chris A. on April 19, 2001, at 14:31:23
This is a theory promoted by Dr. Crook (Yes, that is his name), but he has not, in the many years he has been lecturing and publishing on all of this, ever been able to produce any reputable research to substantiate the theory.
It used to be that all conventional medicine doctors pooh-poohed unconventional techniques, but nowadays it seems many docs are more open to new (or even ancient) ideas, but when I have asked docs about the yeast theory, they have all responded that it has no merit.
On the other hand, it is given a neutral to cautiously positive treatment in Elizabeth Vliet's book, "Screaming to be Heard".
I, myself, am not well informed enough to say with certainty that it cannot be valid, but I am certainly very skeptical of any approach that hasn't been able to produce any good research to validate it.
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 9:04:29
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
> Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
>
> I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
>
> She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
>
> To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
>
> Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
>
> So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
>
> KarenKaren, This is a very controversial subject and "MOST" M.D.'s laugh at it. I too suffered years ago from Systemic Candida (not knowing that the time) I though I was going crazy, I was young and very active, but under much stress in my career and working MANY hours, as well as having drinks every night to calm down and get what little sleep I could.
I foud thus out via a Holistic M.D. for lasck of a better term. He too put me on the diet, but it didn't seen to work as quickly as I wanted it too. I am a revel in the health field and to make a long story short I found "HYDOGEN PEROXIDE" (food grade) It wss manufactured by Dr. Donsbach, another controversial DR. in the states (he went to Mexico) Anyway I started taking 2 tsp per day and what a miracle.
I have since struggled with Candida and it just dawned on me a month or so ago that this might be exacerbating my depression symtoms, so I started wiht the diet and another product which is a homeopathic, 3 parter. It isn't working as fast as the HP but it is working. The is a place that still carries the HP in Oklahoma. If you are interested I will pull out my old literature and send you the info. Candida is a very sneaky condition and alot of the American public has it and isn't aware, due to our dreadful sugar, antibiotics, caffeine, alcohol and chocolate diets.
Let me know! I have lots of info on it.
Pamela
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 9:18:41
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by JasonL on April 19, 2001, at 10:48:19
> > Karen,
>
> Your post excites me. I have been studying the environmental factors like candidia albicans fungus and its implications in mental function. On a larger scope it is well documented that mental health problems can be associated with various problems in the body: low blood sugar, poor digestion, food alergies, leaky gut, food intolerances like gluten intolerance, heavy metal toxixity, ph imbalance, metabolic problems.
>
> Do you really want to know my opinion on this subject? I think doctors and psychiatrists are looking in the wrong direnction. They have studied the brain very well, but western science has done a realatively poor job of helping patients become well. Doctors do well at trying to mask symptoms or cutting things out of the body....but in terms of creating health and balance and vitality...the US as a country suffers more degenerative disease than any other first world nation...
>
> Please look into things like: metabolic typing diets, food alergies, heavy metal toxicity, fatty acid imbalances...I did a recent look at celiac disease...did you know that the untreated symptoms of celiac disease could read right out of the DSM for ADHD, ADD, depression, anxiety. Undoubtedly, if you look at Candidia and the works of Dr. Truss (famous for bringing attention to Candidia) you will see the same symptoms in Cadidia as well.
>
> This points to an even larger problem that western psychiatry has failed to adress. If your immune systom is being compromised by food alergies, pathogenic bacteria, poor metabolism, eating the wrong foods for your body type, then your entire system is operating at less than full potential. The brain, psychiatrists forget, does not stand alone and apart from the health of the other organns. Any look at tradition, holistic medicine from cultures all around the world will reveal that the brain is not treated seperately from the other organs of the body. Hence, in Chinease medicine, emotional problems are halped by trying to create balance....no not in the synapse as western doctors would have you believe, but with imbalance in the other ten organs of the body. Remove the problems from the gut, clean out the liver, strengthen the kidney...your brain can function better. You fucntion better.
>
> But I ramble. it just frustrates me. Anyway, there is a lot more to be discovered...and it might be a simple as knowing which foods to eat and which foods not to eat for your particular body and nutrional needs...my needs and your needs are as unique as our fingerprints.
>
> Jason Lohr
Jason,Halaleuia! We are garbage cans! Me included!
As the old saying goes "depression" wasn't a significant disease in the "OLD DAYS".They say well they didn't have the stress we do now. NOT....where their next meal was coming from isn't stress, trying to stay out of the blithering weather, isn't stress, walking everwhere thay needed to go isn't stress.
We have computers, fine cars, nice homes and we are more stressed than the old guys.
Spoiled might be a better term.
WE consume nothing but prcoessed and junk food (as a majority)and we think that won't cause our bodies/minds to malfunction.
Sorry.... I too get passionate over this disease and all of the diseases out there unlooked at.Take a pill call me in the morning is what we have come too. Once again, I am not excluded!
Fast track all the way.Candida is very real in my opinion, as I have lived with it chronically over the years. It needs more attention. PLEASE!!!
Not to get religious.... but think about it, our whole world is in an uproar (health, violence, pornography, fires, earthquakes, man against man......just like the Bible says it will be.
"WE"....collectively need to make the changes needed!
I'm done...sorry for getting carried away! Hope I didn't offend anyone!
Pamela
Posted by Christina on April 20, 2001, at 9:48:51
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
I had all the symptoms you describe.
When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!The diet works, I can vouch for that.
The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
> Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
>
> I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
>
> She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
>
> To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
>
> Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
>
> So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
>
> Karen
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 9:53:43
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc? » KarenB, posted by Chris A. on April 19, 2001, at 14:31:23
> Dear Karen,
> According to these practicioners < < everyone > > has systemic candida. I beg you not to waste your time, money, etc. It's never a bad thing to cut down on excess sugars and refined carbs, but the rest can endanger your health. Allergies are histamine reactions. There is no evidence of histamine reactions in the vast majority of those diagnosed with systemic candida. Did this doctor offer any leads to controlled research? No, because the chief proponents have no interest in doing any. It's just a way for them to make money. They should be ashamed to call themselves docs or "nutritionists." I know so many people that have been told they are allergic to dairy products and aren't getting enough calcium as a result. Welcome to a real health problem - osteoporosis.
> BTW, antifungals often prescribed by these 'docs' can put you into hepatic failure. Healthy? Not!
> The acupressure test you underwent cannot reveal systemic organ stress. The machine has no such capbilities. It was designed to help relieve pain. Perhaps this doc is deceiving herself. This is a matter that should go the board of health and medical examiner's office. I've just seen too many people misled and a few actually physically damaged. For a second opinion please see an allergist/immunologist. Seriously.
>
> You can only guess what kind of mood I'm in! It's one of those 'issues' I react to. It makes me plain down mad.
>
> Your Friend (I want you to follow your dubious instincts),
>
> Chris A.
>
> P.S. The primary danger of this "diagnosis" and treatment is that people won't seek valid treatment for illness. I am watching this happen with a little boy right now. I've kept my mouth shut, but have been praying for him and his parents a lot. This boy is an innocent victim.
Hi Chris,
You sound like a very compassionate person. May I asked... are you an M.D.?As for your comment about everyone having Systemic Candida, I agree but is everyone's out of control, imbalanced, etc.? I know that we all have Candida Albicans, but it is in balance and not until it is out of balance can it cause "MAJOR" problems.
Your comments on nutritionists and holistic doctors. Isn't there "BAD" and "GOOD" in every field? Alot of now "holistic" M.D.'s became just that... because they got tired of writing prescriptions and masking symptoms verses finding CAUSE. I think that is my BIG complaint with the medical field. In and out, take a pill call me in the morning.
I have had experince with both fields over many years and all in all I must say the holistic way (in most all cases) as been most benficial.
I think as a whole we are becoming more aware what is going on in our bodies and the medical community isn't ready for that. Questioning medicine shouldn't be a bad thing and I would hope if I were a doctor that I would be humble enough to listen to my patients and validate them, or at least take the time to look into it.We have a prime example of "US" the patients knowing more than the doctors with the "Effexor" withdrawal. How many people are on these threads saying the "EXACT" same thing and yet they cannot get help from the very person who put them on the drug. If that does not represent irresponsible behaviour at best.. then I don't know what does. We are not asking that you be perfect and know all(someone else already has that job), but we are asking for support and direction.
I am 45 and had planned to be a doctor. My father amd I had a falling out and my plans changed. I believe it was for the best now that I have experienced the conditions doctors now have to practice in.
It no longer seems to be about health or the person, it is ALL about money, HMO's have ruined this country medically. My "soap opera" is even doing a segment on how HMO's pay off doctors to "NOT" prescribe tests for people they otherwise would. Is it so far from reality, I don't know but I also can't hide my head in the sand.
Don't get me wrong, I don't go around daily poo pooing the medical field, I belive there is good in eveything, but I do think it is time we work together instead of separately.
Alot of cause for my frustration is that I have been experiencing (lately) the medicals field rath. When a patient has to take their health, recovery, weaning off a medication etc. into their own hands because they cannot find help where they should be, then we really need to take a good look on where are.
Thanks for listening and hope you can shed some light on this for "US" in question.
Sincerely,
Pamela
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 10:00:57
In reply to I had the same diagnosis.... » KarenB, posted by Christina on April 20, 2001, at 9:48:51
> I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
> I had all the symptoms you describe.
> When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."
>
> However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
> The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!
>
> The diet works, I can vouch for that.
>
> The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
>
> Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
>
> I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
>
> So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
>
> In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
> I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
>
>
> Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).
>
> If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
>
>
>
> > Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
> >
> > I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
> >
> > She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
> >
> > To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
> >
> > Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
> >
> > So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
> >
> > KarenDear Karen,
You don't happen to live in San Diego do you, I need a good holistic doctor/OB GYN.
Thaks, Pamela
Posted by Gbear on April 20, 2001, at 10:17:52
In reply to I had the same diagnosis.... » KarenB, posted by Christina on April 20, 2001, at 9:48:51
I would love to try this. I've had problems for years with irritable bowel, strange skin rashes, and of course anxiety and depression. When I was looking into some of this I ran into the systemic yeast Idea too, but couldn't find a diet for it, all I remember was eating lots of garlic, it was a natural fungiside. I would love to be involved if a few are going to try it. You're dealing with a sugar and starch junkie here though, I bet this will involve giving up my baked potatos and sour cream won't it (There is a tear in my eye)
Gbear
> I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
> I had all the symptoms you describe.
> When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."
>
> However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
> The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!
>
> The diet works, I can vouch for that.
>
> The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
>
> Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
>
> I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
>
> So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
>
> In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
> I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
>
>
> Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).
>
> If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
>
>
>
> > Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
> >
> > I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
> >
> > She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
> >
> > To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
> >
> > Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
> >
> > So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
> >
> > Karen
Posted by Christina on April 20, 2001, at 12:54:06
In reply to Re: I had the same diagnosis...., posted by Gbear on April 20, 2001, at 10:17:52
If I'm not mistaken, your baked potato would probably be safe, but your sour cream is OUT!
It would probably be replaced with Olive Oil.I'm already grieving the possible loss of my M&Ms.
> I would love to try this. I've had problems for years with irritable bowel, strange skin rashes, and of course anxiety and depression. When I was looking into some of this I ran into the systemic yeast Idea too, but couldn't find a diet for it, all I remember was eating lots of garlic, it was a natural fungiside. I would love to be involved if a few are going to try it. You're dealing with a sugar and starch junkie here though, I bet this will involve giving up my baked potatos and sour cream won't it (There is a tear in my eye)
> Gbear
> > I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
> > I had all the symptoms you describe.
> > When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."
> >
> > However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
> > The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!
> >
> > The diet works, I can vouch for that.
> >
> > The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
> >
> > Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
> >
> > I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
> >
> > So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
> >
> > In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
> > I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
> >
> >
> > Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).
> >
> > If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
> > >
> > > I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
> > >
> > > She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
> > >
> > > To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
> > >
> > > Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
> > >
> > > So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
> > >
> > > Karen
Posted by Leighwit on April 20, 2001, at 13:13:35
In reply to Re: I had the same diagnosis...., posted by Gbear on April 20, 2001, at 10:17:52
It's nice to read such an intelligent thread on the subject of alternative and/or nutrition-based therapies. Sometimes it seems that only those with major bias (like MLM people trying to sell stuff)or quite frankly, those not very well read/educated talk about alternative therapies for mental illnesses.
As a Type I (juvenile-onset, insulin-dependent) diabetic, I've been around the traditional & conventional medical community for virtually my entire life (I'm 43). At the same time, I'm a believer in alternative therapies and the concept of nutritional deficencies as a root cause of some diseases. It's vital that the recent integration of traditional and alternative medicines continue. Just think: a mere decade ago, doctors scoffed at the mention of Acupuncture and today it's a covered expense in a lot of medical insurance policies. Doctors also used to laugh at the very mention of vitamins' preventative, let alone curative and/or restorative qualities. It's all about effective critical thinking which starts with an open mind. Synthetic insulin is every bit as valuable and vital to many lives as Vitamin C is to the general human population. I think a balanced (open) perspective is the right idea when looking at alternative routes to feeling better. I'm all for a group helping each other in this area. How do we start something like that? And who is the author of the diet book related to systemic yeast infections (I'm still not sure what that is -- but it's intriguing enough that I'd like to read about it!)?
> > I would love to try this. I've had problems for years with irritable bowel, strange skin rashes, and of course anxiety and depression. When I was looking into some of this I ran into the systemic yeast Idea too, but couldn't find a diet for it, all I remember was eating lots of garlic, it was a natural fungiside. I would love to be involved if a few are going to try it. You're dealing with a sugar and starch junkie here though, I bet this will involve giving up my baked potatos and sour cream won't it (There is a tear in my eye)
> Gbear
> > I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
> > I had all the symptoms you describe.
> > When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."
> >
> > However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
> > The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!
> >
> > The diet works, I can vouch for that.
> >
> > The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
> >
> > Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
> >
> > I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
> >
> > So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
> >
> > In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
> > I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
> >
> >
> > Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).
> >
> > If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
> > >
> > > I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
> > >
> > > She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
> > >
> > > To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
> > >
> > > Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
> > >
> > > So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
> > >
> > > Karen
Posted by stjames on April 20, 2001, at 13:19:22
In reply to Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 18, 2001, at 18:53:57
I looked into this in the 1980's. The hoax flag went off because it cures everything and effects everybody. Given that it is reasonable that a systemic infection would cause a lot of problems.
Yeast infections do cause major problems, generally in those who are already very sick.
I do not think the "Yeast diet" proves anything.
Putting people on a diet free of bad sugars, ect is not specific proof of Yeast infection. If you eat better you feel better. Duh !There are specific meds to kill off Yeast but I did not want to pay for this. This would be a specific proof of Yeast infection, i.e. if you get better on a specific anti-yeast med this proves you had an infection.
James
Posted by KarenB on April 20, 2001, at 14:19:31
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 9:53:43
Hello Everyone!
Let me start by saying that my current meds for Bipolar Disorder are WORKING (Trileptal, Lamictal and Geodon). I thank God for this and for having a wonderful doctor to help me. I have no intention of going off my meds UNLESS on this Candida diet and medication, I feel better and more emotionally stable than I EVER have, for at least three consecutive months or so. Only then will I consider titrating down, with my p-docs supervision. I am well aware of the dangers of going off my meds. The naturopath/OB-GYN suggested I take a cautious approach as well.
My PMDD symptoms, and they are VERY BAD, are still present even on the meds. I went on oral contraceptives for four months, at the recommendation of Janice from this board and the urging of my OB-GYN, to ease the PMDD. They have definetly not worked but it has allowed me to chart rather acurately on a calender what days I will be fatigued beyond imagination, when I will be utterly insane and when I will be extremely emotional and weepy. I can predict the symptoms now to the day. I plan my schedule accordingly.
My conventional gynecologist has been no help whatsoever in this issue - she suggested Prozac, not taking into account my illness or current meds. I have a hormonal imbalance and have known that for years but have gotten no help from a long list of medical doctors. It was time to try something else.
It is my opinion that we don't give Eastern medicine enough credit. It has been in practice and effective in certain countries for thousands of years. I do, however, avoid the spiritual implications involved with some of these types of medicine, as I have very different beliefs (JC). I think the reason, for the most part, that there are not enough research studies in these methods (acupunture, herbals, etc.) is that most in the medical field will not even give them a chance and the FDA is simply not interested. Maybe I'm wrong and someone else can answer these questions? I don't know.
In a sidenote, my mother in law was telling me about a documentary on one study (this was on A&E Channel) about a substantial group of cancer patients with recurring cancer after remission. They were apparently treated with Indian herbal formulas with excellent results. I don't know the details but that was the jist of the segment.
Don't worry guys - I am going into this with healthy scepticism. I would not even consider dropping the meds and going headlong into something that's a maybe. My illness is a dark and frightening place and I definitely don't want to go back there.
Thanks for your input everyone - and Chris for your care and concern, my friend. I'm going to give it a try--with my eyes wide open.
Pamela, please e-mail me with the info. After I have given this a serious trial I'd be willing to give it a try if this doesn't work the way I'd hoped. Thanks!
Karen
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 14:42:14
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by KarenB on April 20, 2001, at 14:19:31
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Let me start by saying that my current meds for Bipolar Disorder are WORKING (Trileptal, Lamictal and Geodon). I thank God for this and for having a wonderful doctor to help me. I have no intention of going off my meds UNLESS on this Candida diet and medication, I feel better and more emotionally stable than I EVER have, for at least three consecutive months or so. Only then will I consider titrating down, with my p-docs supervision. I am well aware of the dangers of going off my meds. The naturopath/OB-GYN suggested I take a cautious approach as well.
>
> My PMDD symptoms, and they are VERY BAD, are still present even on the meds. I went on oral contraceptives for four months, at the recommendation of Janice from this board and the urging of my OB-GYN, to ease the PMDD. They have definetly not worked but it has allowed me to chart rather acurately on a calender what days I will be fatigued beyond imagination, when I will be utterly insane and when I will be extremely emotional and weepy. I can predict the symptoms now to the day. I plan my schedule accordingly.
>
> My conventional gynecologist has been no help whatsoever in this issue - she suggested Prozac, not taking into account my illness or current meds. I have a hormonal imbalance and have known that for years but have gotten no help from a long list of medical doctors. It was time to try something else.
>
> It is my opinion that we don't give Eastern medicine enough credit. It has been in practice and effective in certain countries for thousands of years. I do, however, avoid the spiritual implications involved with some of these types of medicine, as I have very different beliefs (JC). I think the reason, for the most part, that there are not enough research studies in these methods (acupunture, herbals, etc.) is that most in the medical field will not even give them a chance and the FDA is simply not interested. Maybe I'm wrong and someone else can answer these questions? I don't know.
>
> In a sidenote, my mother in law was telling me about a documentary on one study (this was on A&E Channel) about a substantial group of cancer patients with recurring cancer after remission. They were apparently treated with Indian herbal formulas with excellent results. I don't know the details but that was the jist of the segment.
>
> Don't worry guys - I am going into this with healthy scepticism. I would not even consider dropping the meds and going headlong into something that's a maybe. My illness is a dark and frightening place and I definitely don't want to go back there.
>
> Thanks for your input everyone - and Chris for your care and concern, my friend. I'm going to give it a try--with my eyes wide open.
>
> Pamela, please e-mail me with the info. After I have given this a serious trial I'd be willing to give it a try if this doesn't work the way I'd hoped. Thanks!
>
> KarenHi Karen,
I would be happy to give you all that I have. If you feel comfortable to give me your e-mail address I will send. I can also share alot of other stuff with you too. ie: Eastern Med.
Don't feel comfortable sharing on open air.
If not I'll just send you the name of the company over this thread.
Pamela
P.S. "Seraphim" and I have become buds over all of this, read her threads too.
Posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 14:46:52
In reply to Re: I had the same diagnosis...., posted by Leighwit on April 20, 2001, at 13:13:35
Candida books everywhere in health food stores, depending on where you live. I am fortunate to live in So. Cal which is the holistic capital.. You can also go online and get LOTS of info. Even a cookbook for $5.00 and print off of your own computer immediately. Good website.
Good Luck,Pamela> It's nice to read such an intelligent thread on the subject of alternative and/or nutrition-based therapies. Sometimes it seems that only those with major bias (like MLM people trying to sell stuff)or quite frankly, those not very well read/educated talk about alternative therapies for mental illnesses.
>
> As a Type I (juvenile-onset, insulin-dependent) diabetic, I've been around the traditional & conventional medical community for virtually my entire life (I'm 43). At the same time, I'm a believer in alternative therapies and the concept of nutritional deficencies as a root cause of some diseases. It's vital that the recent integration of traditional and alternative medicines continue. Just think: a mere decade ago, doctors scoffed at the mention of Acupuncture and today it's a covered expense in a lot of medical insurance policies. Doctors also used to laugh at the very mention of vitamins' preventative, let alone curative and/or restorative qualities. It's all about effective critical thinking which starts with an open mind. Synthetic insulin is every bit as valuable and vital to many lives as Vitamin C is to the general human population. I think a balanced (open) perspective is the right idea when looking at alternative routes to feeling better. I'm all for a group helping each other in this area. How do we start something like that? And who is the author of the diet book related to systemic yeast infections (I'm still not sure what that is -- but it's intriguing enough that I'd like to read about it!)?
>
>
> > > I would love to try this. I've had problems for years with irritable bowel, strange skin rashes, and of course anxiety and depression. When I was looking into some of this I ran into the systemic yeast Idea too, but couldn't find a diet for it, all I remember was eating lots of garlic, it was a natural fungiside. I would love to be involved if a few are going to try it. You're dealing with a sugar and starch junkie here though, I bet this will involve giving up my baked potatos and sour cream won't it (There is a tear in my eye)
> > Gbear
> > > I, too, was diagnosed with a systemic yeast overgrowth by a nutritionist about 14 years ago.
> > > I had all the symptoms you describe.
> > > When I asked my MD about it, his exact words were: "If you had a systemic yeast overgrowth in your blood, you would be dead."
> > >
> > > However, I knew I had a problem whether it was from Candida or not, so I followed the diet prescribed by my nutritionist and "The Yeast Syndrome" book for three months.
> > > The result? I lost weight, felt great and friends and coworkers commented on how pleasant I had become!!
> > >
> > > The diet works, I can vouch for that.
> > >
> > > The caveat here is that as another poster stated, the diet is EXTREMELY difficult to stay on.. .especially for a junk food junkie like me.
> > >
> > > Even after 14 years, I still have not had the willpower to go back on that diet, but I honestly think it would make a world of difference for me (as I munch on a handful of M&Ms.)
> > >
> > > I am a great believer that food, environment, and a lack of excercise has contributed to my depression, and the meds prescribed by my MDs have only blunted my emotions and caused me to gain 40 pounds. They have not helped like the diet did.
> > >
> > > So you're probably saying.. "You dumb-ass, go back on the diet!! That's the logical thing to do, but I guess I love junk food more than I love my health.
> > >
> > > In closing, I would like to offer this about myself... I have currenly stopped all psych meds and am waiting to see what happens. I'm tired of the emotional blunting, the confusion and the wieght gains psych med have caused.
> > > I am suffering from med withdraws, but I feel the effects starting to dissipate slooowwwlllyyyy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Call me crazy (no pun intended), but I would love to try a more natural approach (more M&Ms).
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to work together to explore this "alternative" I would be more than happy to participate in a CIVIL discussion about its merits.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Maybe I can get some feedback on this?
> > > >
> > > > I saw a Dr. two days ago who is an M.D., as well as a naturopath. I waited two months for the appt., as she is much in demand for her OB-GYN practice as well as nutritional counseling services.
> > > >
> > > > She interviewed me at length, for 45 minutes, asking questions about my mood swings, depression, PMDD and use of antibiotics and cortisone throughout my life. I didn't realize the extent to which the worst of my illness has followed heavy antibiotic use. I never realized either, just how much I have been on antibiotics in my lifetime. Let's just say, A LOT.
> > > >
> > > > To make a long story short, I (quite skeptically) underwent a test of acupressure points on my hands and feet with a non-invasive machine which is in fact approved by the FDA. Through the test, it was determined that many of my organs and systems are severly compromised and stressed, due to what they strongly believe to be a systemic yeast infection run amuck throughout my body and in my blood. Not the OTHER kind of yeast infection, thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Their assertion is that my bipolar symptoms, chronic fatigue, migraine headaches and PMDD could very well be caused by this massive infection I may have had most of my life. It has progessively gotten worse with time. My first experience with serious, full spectrum antibiotics was as an infant.
> > > >
> > > > So, what do you think? Anybody have any educated or informed opinions on this? Please, don't tell me it's quackery without something to back up your claims, ok?I have doubts of my own, but it seems to me that giving up sugar, yeast, white flour and fermented food can't be a bad thing, anyway. For sure I will lose weight, which I have wanted ever since my experience with the curse of Zyprexa. The cravings are about to drive me nuts, though. I am addicted to sugar, especially chocolate.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
Posted by KarenB on April 20, 2001, at 14:51:32
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc?-KAREN , posted by Pamela on April 20, 2001, at 14:42:14
Pamela,
I USED to live in San Diego and have many friends there - how'd you know ;^) Funny you should mention it - I am looking into practitioners there now. When you e-mail me I'll probably have something for you.
E-mail links are in blue at the top of the thread, for we bravehearted souls. See mine?
Karen
Posted by KarenB on April 20, 2001, at 15:47:43
In reply to Re: I had the same diagnosis...., posted by Gbear on April 20, 2001, at 10:17:52
You're dealing with a sugar and starch junkie here though, I bet this will involve giving up my baked potatos and sour cream won't it (There is a tear in my eye)
> GbearJust the sour cream. Starch is OK, as long as it does not contain yeast. Fermented foods (like vinegar, wine and other alcohol) are forbidden.
There is a book they recommended - "Tired, So Tired," that you can find at Amazon for about $13.
Karen
Posted by KarenB on April 21, 2001, at 12:38:22
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc?, posted by vlvtelvis on April 18, 2001, at 20:28:33
vlvtelvis (Ohhh baby - do you have one of those in your living room? Ha ha)
Thanks for the link. I read it in full. I will proceed, though, with the diet (I need to get off the sugar and white flour anyway) and see what happens with the medication. The true test will be during my 9 days of PMDD. As I stated in my other post, I will continue my psych meds as well.
The doctor is correct in saying that I have received too many wide spectrum antibiotics in my life, along with cortisone and oral contraceptives. This is especially true since my early thirties, when I would get very bad upper respiratory infections about three to four times a year, along with a cortisone shot each time. They would turn into pnemonia without antibiotics. This is when I first needed to go on antidepressants. It's been a long, hard road since then.
I want to get well. My OB-GYNs over the years have been no help with my PMDD, which has gotten worse with time. I am 40.
It's time to try something new but I am approaching it with caution. I am skeptical, believe me, but I am willing to give it a try.
Again, thanks for the link. I have bookmarked it.
Karen
Posted by Gbear on April 24, 2001, at 13:34:44
In reply to Re: Candida causing mood swings, etc? » vlvtelvis, posted by KarenB on April 21, 2001, at 12:38:22
It is so strange, I could've written that. After an extremely bad season of colds, bronchitis, etc... I was diagnosed with ashma, took oral steroids for awhile, and have gone on antidepressants for the first time since I was a teenager. Oral contraceptives were keeping pmdd or pms (I haven't investigated the differences yet) to a low roar until this. Then I just couldn't seem to hold it together. Still a little shakey.
Gbear
> vlvtelvis (Ohhh baby - do you have one of those in your living room? Ha ha)
>
> Thanks for the link. I read it in full. I will proceed, though, with the diet (I need to get off the sugar and white flour anyway) and see what happens with the medication. The true test will be during my 9 days of PMDD. As I stated in my other post, I will continue my psych meds as well.
>
> The doctor is correct in saying that I have received too many wide spectrum antibiotics in my life, along with cortisone and oral contraceptives. This is especially true since my early thirties, when I would get very bad upper respiratory infections about three to four times a year, along with a cortisone shot each time. They would turn into pnemonia without antibiotics. This is when I first needed to go on antidepressants. It's been a long, hard road since then.
>
> I want to get well. My OB-GYNs over the years have been no help with my PMDD, which has gotten worse with time. I am 40.
>
> It's time to try something new but I am approaching it with caution. I am skeptical, believe me, but I am willing to give it a try.
>
> Again, thanks for the link. I have bookmarked it.
>
> Karen
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