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Posted by Jeroen on January 29, 2006, at 15:41:41
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 29, 2006, at 15:15:56
i have improvement with the herb medicine
i can try to increase to 800 mg magnesium citrate, but im scared....
btw ed http://users.pandora.be/topsite/alone.beta-2-demo.mp3
im working on a dance hit, its a demo
Posted by Jeroen on January 31, 2006, at 14:24:05
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on January 29, 2006, at 15:41:41
WILL INCREASE TO 800 MG ED UK
Posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2006, at 18:08:52
In reply to GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on January 26, 2006, at 12:28:40
Jeroen did you write that song? And don't know where Ed is maybe still working? But the only side effect form 800mg of magnesium may be some diarrha. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:01:08
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2006, at 18:08:52
Jeroen don't take 800mg of magnesium. I checked only raise it by 200mg a week for a few weeks. The higher dose can cause problems for you. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:03:15
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL, posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:01:08
yes when i do 800 mg i do feel kinda weird, btw blinking has improved A BIT thanks to the herb revision formula, but the photofobia isnt gone
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:13:03
In reply to YEs it does cause problem, posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:03:15
Jeroen what type of problem. It can cause the water from your gut to do something. If you tell me the problem or better yet Babblemail me I will send it to our expert on Alternative and get a real answer for you okay? Fondly, Phillipa ps what country are you in forgot.
Posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:13:56
In reply to Re: YEs it does cause problem » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:13:03
no i feel bit weird, cant explain
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:15:41
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2006, at 18:08:52
Jeroen besides the magnesium giving you diarrhea it will take the precious magnesium from your blood and undo all the good it has done. So stop. Please Babblemail me Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:16:59
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL » Phillipa, posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:15:41
NO NO I DONT HAVE DIARHEA IM AT 400 mg daily
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:17:22
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL » Phillipa, posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:15:41
Go back to the original 400mg and titrate it slowly raising it by 200mg a week for a few weeks. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:18:11
In reply to Re: GOT ANOTHER TD FROM SEROQUEL, posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2006, at 12:17:22
im at 400 mg for month and will increase to 600 daily
Posted by ed_uk on February 1, 2006, at 14:23:30
In reply to IM AT 400 mg, posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 12:18:11
Hi J
I couldn't open the link to your song :(
Have you tried 600mg yet?
Ed
Posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 14:36:39
In reply to Re: IM AT 400 mg » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 1, 2006, at 14:23:30
not tryed 600 mg, will start today
Posted by Jeroen on February 2, 2006, at 11:28:08
In reply to Re: IM AT 400 mg, posted by Jeroen on February 1, 2006, at 14:36:39
i just read this that cogentin was added geodon and TD went away.. maybe it will help me... but what on earth is a anticholinergic psychosis? i dont wanna have that. should i add cogentin to my med combo wich is seroquel 100 AM 200 PM (im much better then on 400 MG) Seroxat 30, unit tranxene 15 mg
so should i start a cogentin therapy or will it throw myself into major psychosis?its worth a try maybe the tics will go away like in this case.... as last resort i will try Clozapine :(((((((((
To counteract the Geodon and 'test' whether he had TD, the doc prescribed Cogentin (used for Parkinsons patients). In three doses, this drug (or the combo of the two) sent him into a major drug reaction - anticholinergic psychosis. Thankfully the TD faded away, but he began to have seizures within 6 weeks and still has them daily over two years later.
Posted by Jeroen on February 3, 2006, at 13:52:03
In reply to TO EDUK, TD TREATMENT COGENTIN, posted by Jeroen on February 2, 2006, at 11:28:08
should i decrease my seroquel 200 mg to 100 mg
so that would mean i take 100 mg AM and 100 mg PM from now on... i feel much better then taking 400 mg PM
Posted by Jeroen on February 4, 2006, at 7:52:36
In reply to TO EDUK, TD TREATMENT COGENTIN, posted by Jeroen on February 2, 2006, at 11:28:08
should i add cogentin to my med combo for my TD or is it too dangerous?
Posted by ed_uk on February 4, 2006, at 13:59:41
In reply to TO EDUK, TD TREATMENT COGENTIN, posted by Jeroen on February 2, 2006, at 11:28:08
Hi Jeroen
>but what on earth is a anticholinergic psychosis?
It is a state which may occur if the dose of an anticholinergic drug such as Cogentin is much too high. Confusion is one of the main symptoms. Visual hallucinations are also prominent.
>so should i start a cogentin therapy or will it throw myself into major psychosis?
No, I don't think it will make you psychotic. If you do decide to try Cogentin, it's important to start at a low dose and increase gradually. Like Akineton, you may find that Cogentin aggravates your symptoms.
Ed
Posted by Jeroen on February 4, 2006, at 14:07:44
In reply to Anticholinergic psychosis » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 4, 2006, at 13:59:41
please tell me how to start this. safe and ill buy it from xxx
Posted by Jeroen on February 5, 2006, at 16:09:34
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis, posted by Jeroen on February 4, 2006, at 14:07:44
im loosing hope.... im 22 now... depressed bout myself and future... lost already 3 friends propably because of my TD social withdrawal.
the misery of other people suffering also...
should i be happy that im not entire blind and i am now forced to take an anti psychotic for a dyskinesia in my both eyes, from the start these medicines didnt help me with school!
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 5, 2006, at 21:53:34
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis, posted by Jeroen on February 4, 2006, at 14:07:44
> please tell me how to start this. safe and ill buy it from xxx
Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to sell in the US prescription medication without a prescription.
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by ed_uk on February 7, 2006, at 16:42:07
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis, posted by Jeroen on February 4, 2006, at 14:07:44
Hi J
What dose of Seroquel are you on now? How are you feeling at the moment?
Ed
Posted by Jeroen on February 7, 2006, at 18:41:50
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 7, 2006, at 16:42:07
100 mg AM 200 mg PM
less sedative, i decided not to go below or my TD will get worse, maybe i should quit seroquel, the dyskinesia will get very worse in my eyes, UNSTOPPABLE UNCONTROLLED EYE MOVEMENTS, ive been trough it before i taught i was gonna get blind, this was not cool... i simply dont know what to do
Posted by ed_uk on February 8, 2006, at 13:29:34
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis, posted by Jeroen on February 7, 2006, at 18:41:50
Hi Jeroen
> i decided not to go below or my TD will get worse
How do you know?
Ed
Posted by Jeroen on February 8, 2006, at 16:03:48
In reply to Re: Anticholinergic psychosis » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 8, 2006, at 13:29:34
hi, because if i lower dose of seroquel the blinking and uncontrolled eye movements get worse. its fact!
i have an appointment with my psy doc in months next week tuesday. The word Clozaril is still in my head, i heared it is used in dystonias, TD and all that stuff. but my doc refuse to give it to me. but i want to try this. i know the blood test is important.Seroquel has cured my social withdrawal at low dose but it also didnt control my TD symptoms good.
anyway i still blink, so i just want to tryout clozaril but i dont wanna go into the hospital again, because its pretty stable except for the eye disease so, i better avoid it, still i want to give Clozaril a good trial. i know i will get fat but what if it helps me go on with my life.
or on the other hand it might kill me....
what should i do... go off seroquel entire and dyskinesia will get VERY BAD. try vitamine E again and other treatments, OR ClozarilI really dont trust those doctors anymore, they are lazy and didnt warn me about tics syndrome and neurological damage, i was just scared to get fat while on geodon not aware to get blepharospasm AND nystagmus.
the thing is i want t try clozaril, but i dont like hospital. and i will suffer be very tired and stuff from this med, maybe feel like a zombieI REALLY DONT KNOW!!!! increasing seroquel dosage helped a bit but didnt reverse or whatever
Posted by Jeroen on February 8, 2006, at 18:47:26
In reply to TO ED UK - DYSKINESIA EYE/BLEPHAROSPASM, posted by Jeroen on February 8, 2006, at 16:03:48
hi ed, i appreciate you read this, cim sensitive to meds, im willing to take clozapine, seroquel didnt reverse :( zyprexa :( vitamine E :( lecithin :( manganese :(
Are there effective treatments for TD?There has never been a definitive, validated and widely accepted treatment for TD. Dozens of drugs have been tested over the past 30 years with mixed results at best. The atypical antipsychotic clozapine has been reported to reverse persistent TD after 6-12 months, possibly through gradual "down-regulation" of supersensitive dopamine D2 receptors. Some preliminary reports suggest that other atypical antipsychotics may also help reverse TD.
However, given that a large majority of persons who need antipsychotic treatment are now receiving the new atypicals and given the drastically lower incidence of TD with atypical antipsychotics, the issue of developing a treatment for TD may have become a moot one. Preventing the occurrence of TD is much more preferable to treating TD.
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