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Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 12, 2018, at 9:05:00
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 1:19:22
Hi,
>The neuroleptics are so high because i once quit medication for a few days and then i needed the high doses to not be psychotic
How are you doing for side effects and weight gain?
>Effexor is low because i dont like anorgasmia.
What about if 75mg per day could reduce your anxiety?
Do you get manic or agitated on antidepressants (I don't mean MAOIs), or is that not an issue for you?
In fact, do you get manic at all, or due to suffer with depression, anxiety and psychosis?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 9:25:57
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas? » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 12, 2018, at 9:05:00
> Hi,
>
> >The neuroleptics are so high because i once quit medication for a few days and then i needed the high doses to not be psychotic
>
> How are you doing for side effects and weight gain?Well my cortisol is 250 and i am slightly overweight. 170 pounds on 5 foot 8. Some muscle left from my bodybuilding phase though. I think i have obsesssive thoughts as a side effect and some anxiety.
> >Effexor is low because i dont like anorgasmia.
>
> What about if 75mg per day could reduce your anxiety?Perhaps. I will discuss with doc. Another option would be 75mg or 100mg Trazodone. I like that one better i have to admit.
> Do you get manic or agitated on antidepressants (I don't mean MAOIs), or is that not an issue for you?
Only the MAOIs.
> In fact, do you get manic at all, or due to suffer with depression, anxiety and psychosis?
Thats a good question. I was only manic on MAOI. Never without them. I am not considered bipolar although maybe i should be? I dont know.
Posted by SLS on April 12, 2018, at 10:16:36
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 9:25:57
> > Hi,
> >
> > >The neuroleptics are so high because i once quit medication for a few days and then i needed the high doses to not be psychotic
> >
> > How are you doing for side effects and weight gain?
>
> Well my cortisol is 250 and i am slightly overweight. 170 pounds on 5 foot 8. Some muscle left from my bodybuilding phase though. I think i have obsesssive thoughts as a side effect and some anxiety.
>
> > >Effexor is low because i dont like anorgasmia.
> >
> > What about if 75mg per day could reduce your anxiety?
>
> Perhaps. I will discuss with doc. Another option would be 75mg or 100mg Trazodone. I like that one better i have to admit.
>
> > Do you get manic or agitated on antidepressants (I don't mean MAOIs), or is that not an issue for you?
>
> Only the MAOIs.
>
> > In fact, do you get manic at all, or due to suffer with depression, anxiety and psychosis?
>
> Thats a good question. I was only manic on MAOI. Never without them. I am not considered bipolar although maybe i should be? I dont know.The DSM 5 now qualifies your condition as being bipolar.
William Potter at the NIH diagnosed me as being bipolar in 1992. Prior to this, I had been described as being unipolar with antidepressant-induced mania.
MAOIs sometimes make me manic unless I am taking something as a prophylactic. It seems that Abilify prevents mania for me.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 11:22:10
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by SLS on April 12, 2018, at 10:16:36
Well i have to look out for mania. I know that. I wanna try Rapastinel. Its supposed to come out 2021.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 14, 2018, at 11:06:21
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 11:22:10
i am looking for something to get me back in the gym and not worry so much anymore
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 14, 2018, at 14:01:05
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2018, at 9:25:57
>I think i have obsesssive thoughts as a side effect and some anxiety.
You think you feel more anxious as a side effect of taking so much Seroquel and Zyprexa? Tell us more.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 14, 2018, at 14:05:11
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas? » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 14, 2018, at 14:01:05
Well, i think that the dopamine blockade comes with a price of more receptors and an increase in dopamine production.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 15, 2018, at 10:35:47
In reply to Re: what about buspar? any other ideas?, posted by Lamdage22 on April 14, 2018, at 14:05:11
and i feel better. Possibly i will go to 100mg!
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 15, 2018, at 13:01:39
In reply to I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75, posted by Lamdage22 on April 15, 2018, at 10:35:47
Glad you're feeling better.
What does your doctor advise for your anxiety?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 15, 2018, at 13:07:22
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75 » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 15, 2018, at 13:01:39
we seldom speak about it. Im not going to take benzos
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 15, 2018, at 14:02:03
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75, posted by Lamdage22 on April 15, 2018, at 13:07:22
>we seldom speak about it. Im not going to take benzos
Are all your meds/doses via the psychiatrist? Just wondering if you partly self treat. Not a criticism, just curious :) I get the impression you don't see the psych that often?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 16, 2018, at 5:14:15
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75 » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 15, 2018, at 14:02:03
The meds are via the psychiatrist. I can make reasonable dose changes without him though. I see him every 6 weeks and he is busy. I chose him because he is not afraid to prescribe international drugs.
> >we seldom speak about it. Im not going to take benzos
>
> Are all your meds/doses via the psychiatrist? Just wondering if you partly self treat. Not a criticism, just curious :) I get the impression you don't see the psych that often?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 16, 2018, at 10:09:33
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75 » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 15, 2018, at 14:02:03
Do you think there is a medical solution to that anxiety? I dont thats why i dont speak about it with the psychiatrist. Well he said that no matter what meds i take i may run into anxiety from time to time.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 16, 2018, at 13:37:01
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75, posted by Lamdage22 on April 16, 2018, at 5:14:15
So, do you have anxiety problems most of the time or just occasionally?
How does the anxiety respond to SSRIs rather than venlafaxine? Have you tried a few?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2018, at 5:57:39
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75 » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 16, 2018, at 13:37:01
Half of the time maybe. Its not most of the time but it is more often than occasionally
SSRI i responded to sertraöine at a low dosage but it gave me akathisia. I tried some of the new ones but i aborted. Once i was suicidal.
> So, do you have anxiety problems most of the time or just occasionally?
>
> How does the anxiety respond to SSRIs rather than venlafaxine? Have you tried a few?
>
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 17, 2018, at 14:12:54
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75, posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2018, at 5:57:39
How's the increased trazodone working out?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2018, at 7:04:01
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75 » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 17, 2018, at 14:12:54
> How's the increased trazodone working out?
It definitely makes a difference!
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 19, 2018, at 2:34:24
In reply to Re: I have ramped up the trazodone 50 to 75, posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2018, at 7:04:01
I have ordered theanine, green tea extract and resveratrol from japanese knotweed.
Posted by SLS on April 19, 2018, at 9:29:33
In reply to ordered theanine, green tea extract, resveratrol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 19, 2018, at 2:34:24
> I have ordered theanine, green tea extract and resveratrol from japanese knotweed.
Look into acetyl-l-carnitine (ALC). It is being studied closely for use in depression by employing randomized controlled trials (RCT).
"Acetly-l-carnitine May Be Effective in Treatment-Resistant Depression"
http://bipolarnews.org/?p=2659
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 19, 2018, at 9:44:56
In reply to ordered theanine, green tea extract, resveratrol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 19, 2018, at 2:34:24
>I have ordered theanine, green tea extract and resveratrol from japanese knotweed.
How do you find tea (either black tea or green tea)?
Tea does seem to be calming compared to coffee, while also improving attention.
Many people here drink loads of black tea.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 24, 2018, at 6:54:20
In reply to Re: ordered theanine, green tea extract, resveratrol » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 19, 2018, at 9:44:56
I dont know. I have probably drunk 5 cups in my whole life
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 25, 2018, at 8:28:42
In reply to ordered theanine, green tea extract, resveratrol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 19, 2018, at 2:34:24
> I have ordered theanine, green tea extract and resveratrol from japanese knotweed.
Do any of these cause anxiety?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 26, 2018, at 8:26:44
In reply to Anxiety worse, posted by Lamdage22 on April 25, 2018, at 8:28:42
it seems to be helping. I am more indiferrent to others in a good way. I cared to much and was easily upset. I have introduced theanine, green tea extract and resveratrol all at once.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 26, 2018, at 9:41:21
In reply to it seems to be helping, posted by Lamdage22 on April 26, 2018, at 8:26:44
Posted by SLS on April 26, 2018, at 10:50:23
In reply to Acetyl L Carnitine can cause psychosis (nm), posted by Lamdage22 on April 26, 2018, at 9:41:21
Was there any indication whether psychosis was a common or a rare event? I'd like to take a quick look at your source of information. I have no reason to disbelieve that psychosis is possible, but I would like to know the frequency at which this occurs.
- Scott
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