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Posted by Hugh on March 23, 2018, at 12:03:10
In reply to @ Hugh: What time should i take LDN?, posted by Lamdage22 on March 22, 2018, at 13:08:34
Most people take it shortly before going to bed. Here's some information about the ideal time to take it.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 12:09:45
In reply to Re: @ Hugh: What time should i take LDN? » Lamdage22, posted by Hugh on March 23, 2018, at 12:03:10
Thanks Hugh,
i go to bed at 9 pm. So my question is should i take it at 9 pm or wake up at midnight to take it?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:10:41
In reply to Re: @ Hugh: What time should i take LDN?, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 12:09:45
I think that my allergies are getting worse on LDN!
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 22:11:39
In reply to LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:10:41
> I think that my allergies are getting worse on LDN!
What sort of allergies?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:13:20
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 22:11:39
To laundry detergent. Its pretty bad
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 22:18:01
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:13:20
> To laundry detergent. Its pretty bad
What are you symptoms?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:30:21
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 22:18:01
Flu like. My ears are itchy, nose running. It is very unpleasant
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:32:09
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:30:21
ecxema on eyelid
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:02:28
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 22:32:09
Hope these symptoms pass soon. They don't sound related to LDN.
Perhaps you could use a steroid nasal spray until it improves.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 23:07:35
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:02:28
the ears are the worst part. they are itchy
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:17:39
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 23:07:35
> the ears are the worst part. they are itchy
On the outside or inside? Some people get an itchy feeling within the ears at the same time as a nasal allergy. Obviously, if it's coming from an area of inflamed skin on your ear that's different.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 23:43:11
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:17:39
inside
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:50:51
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 23, 2018, at 23:43:11
Is it both ears? Any pain? Does it happen at same time as runny nose or typical allergy symptoms?
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 0:23:11
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:50:51
yes at the same time. It worries me that i am allergic even to organic detergents!
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 0:50:11
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 23:50:51
what do you mean pain? Like joints&bones? no
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 13:12:06
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 0:50:11
>what do you mean pain? Like joints&bones? no
Just meant... do you have any pain in your ears or hearing changes? Just because that would suggest something wrong in your ear rather than an allergy. Also, if you've been swimming or potentially got something in your ear, do get it looked at by your doctor.
If you have itching in both (not one) ears at the same time as allergy symptoms in your nose, it makes it likely that the itching is part of the allergic reaction.
As you know, it can be difficult to know the cause of allergies because it can easily be due to something you don't realise. You can try to eliminate allergens, but it can be difficult to eliminate everything.
Have you tried a steroid nasal spray from a pharmacy? Your nose is connected to the nasopharynx at the top/back, and the nasopharynx is connected to your inner ears on both sites. A steroid nasal spray can help a wide range of allergy symptoms in the upper airway, especially after a few days. I assume you can buy topical steroids like Beconase and Flonase nasal spray from a pharmacy in your country, like you can here. In some countries, you can also get newer steroid nasal sprays without a prescription eg. triamcinolone spray, mometasone spray (brands vary). Some people say these are nicer to use with a better smell etc.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 14:41:58
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 13:12:06
Hi,
it was itching in both ears along with the nose. Corticoid spray is prescription only in germany. In fact, all corticoid medicines are. If it doesnt get better i will go to urgent care again. I was there today they gave me something called fenistil.
Thanks for posting
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 15:12:05
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 14:41:58
Don't you have a family doctor you can go to?
Fenistil as in dimetindene? An antihistamine used in Germany. Did it help?
I'm surprised you can't get Beconase in German pharmacies. It's available without prescription most places in Europe. I can imagine there may be an issue with overuse of decongestant sprays when you can't buy more suitable allergy treatments like Beconase.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 15:19:14
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 15:12:05
> Don't you have a family doctor you can go to?
>
> Fenistil as in dimetindene? An antihistamine used in Germany. Did it help?Yes exactly. Im not sure if it helps.
> I'm surprised you can't get Beconase in German pharmacies. It's available without prescription most places in Europe. I can imagine there may be an issue with overuse of decongestant sprays when you can't buy more suitable allergy treatments like Beconase.
Germans arent considered super correct for no reason.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 16:24:24
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 24, 2018, at 15:19:14
Personally, I wouldn't go for an antihistamine as the first choice if I were you... Partly because you already take a huge dose of Seroquel, which is already an antihistamine among other things.
In general, steroid nasal sprays are the safest and most effective treatment for nasal and upper airway allergies - apart from avoiding allergen exposure where possible. So, if the medication you got today doesn't work, you could try one.
Apart from sometimes causing a dry nose, the risk of major side effects from the tiny doses in conventional sprays is really low. Especially compared to decongestants, which are usually less effective with more side effects. And antihistamines, which are just less effective, mainly because there is a lot more to allergic reactions than histamine.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 1:16:44
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 24, 2018, at 16:24:24
Hi ed,
i received Prednisolone 50mg tablets. Plus today i wash the bed with PH 5.5 body wash soap free. So hopefully it will be better now.
The LDN people say that LDN can temporarily worsen allergies.
I sure hope it is temporary. What do you think?Thanks,
Lamdage
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 25, 2018, at 8:52:44
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 1:16:44
>I received Prednisolone 50mg tablets.
Prednisolone 50mg, that's quite a lot! I think it should work rapidly, but it's normally very short-term at that dose. How much have you been given?
> The LDN people say that LDN can temporarily worsen allergies.
> I sure hope it is temporary. What do you think?I think it's hard to say, so don't make any decisions based on having worse allergy symptoms for such a short time. Other people seem to be saying their allergies improved.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 10:06:10
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 25, 2018, at 8:52:44
> >I received Prednisolone 50mg tablets.
>
> Prednisolone 50mg, that's quite a lot! I think it should work rapidly, but it's normally very short-term at that dose. How much have you been given?10 50mg Tablets. What is a good daily dose?
> > The LDN people say that LDN can temporarily worsen allergies.
> > I sure hope it is temporary. What do you think?
>
> I think it's hard to say, so don't make any decisions based on having worse allergy symptoms for such a short time. Other people seem to be saying their allergies improved.You are right.
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 10:19:00
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 10:06:10
i didnt need Ativan in 3 weeks so i think the LDN is good for me.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 25, 2018, at 10:53:38
In reply to Re: LDN allergies are worse, posted by Lamdage22 on March 25, 2018, at 10:06:10
If you're feeling better in general, I think you should persist with the LDN.
Prednisolone 50mg/day for ten days - that's a lot for a nasal/upper airway allergy! It definitely has a good chance of working though, and soon! This dose is typical of what is used for a severe asthma exacerbation, following a visit to the emergency dept.
For nasal allergies, treatment with prednisolone would not normally exceed the 10 days you've been given. You will probably find that you can reduce to 25mg after a few days. That is up to you though, if you want to reduce oral steroid exposure.
If symptoms return after prednisolone, you should ask about getting topical nasal steroids, not more prednisolone.
Short-term prednisolone usually has very few side effects. Long-term, it has many, so it is useful to minimise use by switching to sprays etc.
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