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Posted by wildcardII on November 20, 2006, at 20:49:52
In reply to Please fellow Babblers Read Important Trigger post, posted by Phillipa on November 20, 2006, at 15:21:50
My prayers and thoughts to his family and friends...I am so sorry about your loss.
Posted by temoigneur on November 20, 2006, at 21:28:10
In reply to Strong Trigger Concerning Former Babbler Please do, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2006, at 21:32:52
I had posted on pbabble on and off for years.. and for the first two or so corresponded not infrequently with Michael, (Amesansvie). I was always confident in his analysis of the situations I presented with, and impressed with his incredible knowledge of medication...
I am homosexual, (and christian).. but had no idea that Michael identified for a period as being that way. I wrote Michael some benign letter in french.. and he wrote me back a full page letter in absolutely flawless, eloquent french.. as a Canadian who majored in french in university, I was stunned.. at his level of french.. at that point I developed some sort of cyber crush - (sorry mom) and really wished I could have met michael. Such a horrible loss of such a bright young boy.
I trust that as Clapton sings "beyond the door" there is indeed peace for michael, in a body and mind free from disease and pain he must have known all too well... I will remember Michael as a brilliant young man... and wish to give my sincere, and deepest condolences to his family and especially motherFellow pbabbler...
Bentley Humphries... bentley79@hotmail.com
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2006, at 21:44:03
In reply to Strong Trigger Concerning Former Babbler Please do, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2006, at 21:32:52
Hi, everyone,
Phillipa, thanks for letting us know about Michael. It's not easy being the point person for this. And thanks for thinking of his mother, too.
Let's also use this thread to continue to remember Ame Sans Vie ourselves. If you'd like to quote, or link to, something he posted, that would be a way to bring back his words, at least, for a time.
No one, of course, is obligated to post anything. And while many of us may be sad, other feelings like shock, hurt, guilt and anger are also natural. I know this isn't what we usually use this board for, but I think I'd like to make an exception in this case.
Bob
Posted by stargazer on November 20, 2006, at 23:46:27
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2006, at 21:44:03
I am sad of this recent news. I did not know him, but know that this website has been a source of support for myself and so many others who suffer with debilitating depression and other mental illnesses. We all have this common bond.
One thing that has stuck me is how close so many of the posters here become. Perhaps it is because this is a place where we can really express our most private thoughts and fears. We can be ourselves and be supported by others who have been there.
It is comforting to know that he must have felt a kinship with so many of you, but nonetheless very sad. My thoughts go out to his mother and his family during this difficult time. Thank you to Phillipa for staying in touch with his family and keeping the rest of us informed. That is her gift.
Stargazer
Posted by SLS on November 21, 2006, at 6:44:01
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by stargazer on November 20, 2006, at 23:46:27
Michael alway brightened the community of Psycho-Babble whenever he would pay us one of his periodic visits. He was a shining light.
- Scott
Posted by gardenergirl on November 21, 2006, at 7:22:48
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by SLS on November 21, 2006, at 6:44:01
He was one of the first Babblers I noticed when I started posting here. I loved his posting name, so I always read his posts. As I got to know folks, I began to enjoy his posts for him and what he was saying, not just because of his posting name.
A very sad loss...
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on November 21, 2006, at 7:28:36
In reply to Michael was talented and charming » Phillipa, posted by temoigneur on November 20, 2006, at 21:28:10
That's a comforting way to think of it. Thanks.
gg
Posted by Crazy Horse on November 21, 2006, at 12:26:28
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by gardenergirl on November 21, 2006, at 7:22:48
I'm sadened by the news of this very bright and talented young man. May God bless and comfort his Mother, family and friends.
-Monte
Posted by Racer on November 21, 2006, at 12:38:32
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by SLS on November 21, 2006, at 6:44:01
What a terrible loss. I'm always saddened by news of death like this, but in this case it's particularly hard. He was so young, and his more recent posts seemed so bright, so hopeful.
I can't even begin to imagine the pain his mother must be in right now. I can't think of anything more horrifying for a woman, than to lose her child so suddenly, and so young. My heart goes out to her.
Requiescat in pace, Michael. You'll be missed.
Posted by willyee on November 21, 2006, at 13:07:00
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2006, at 21:44:03
> Hi, everyone,
>
> Phillipa, thanks for letting us know about Michael. It's not easy being the point person for this. And thanks for thinking of his mother, too.
>
> Let's also use this thread to continue to remember Ame Sans Vie ourselves. If you'd like to quote, or link to, something he posted, that would be a way to bring back his words, at least, for a time.
>
> No one, of course, is obligated to post anything. And while many of us may be sad, other feelings like shock, hurt, guilt and anger are also natural. I know this isn't what we usually use this board for, but I think I'd like to make an exception in this case.
>
> Bob
I was lucky enough to speak to him briefly outside babble on myspace,he seemed very much upbeat,i wish i could have detected something id have pushed a lil more,but again his last words were he was happy to speak to someone in a social setting,he was off for a busy day and would email me again.Nothing that would have even hinted there was a problem.
Posted by willyee on November 21, 2006, at 13:12:47
In reply to Strong Trigger Concerning Former Babbler Please do, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2006, at 21:32:52
I also have spoken to his sister who is on myspace as well,and for those who havent visited his site,or cant view certain areas,i can tell you that comments from close friends and his sister all point to how nice of a guy he was.His sister also mentioned the fact she was aware of this site,as well confirmed that he suffered a great deal with the illness and was constantly fighting it.I hope we can learn from this a little and offer our access out side this site,the illness doesent begin or end when we post here,making friends on messagner services,or any other outlet is a giant help i recomend everyone try to establish at least one friend contact on the outside from here.I know i have one,and she has helped me many nights thank you suzie.
Posted by tensor on November 21, 2006, at 14:10:28
In reply to Strong Trigger Concerning Former Babbler Please do, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2006, at 21:32:52
Requiescat in pace, Michael.
/Mattias
Posted by ed_uk on November 21, 2006, at 14:29:18
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2006, at 21:44:03
I'd like to repost something Michael posted a while back....
"I've just always been fascinated by languages and began to teach myself French at the age of 12, along with a multitude of other languages (e.g., Russian, Latin, Spanish, Italian, German, Kiswahili, Japanese, Mandarin, Arabic, Irish Gaelic) most of which I've sadly forgotten. My French is still pretty up to par, though, and currently I'm taking a step in another linguistic direction -- studying the evolution of the English language and learning the grammar and vocabulary of Chaucer's English (I've already gotten the pronunciation down -- *beautiful* language)"
Michael has made so many intelligent and insightful posts here at p-babble it would be impossible to try to list them. He has made a great impression here. He has helped and encouraged many people. Michael will be greatly missed.
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on November 21, 2006, at 14:35:55
In reply to Re: In memory of Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2006, at 21:44:03
Thank you for not redirecting the thread. Michael was known on this board.
Regards
Ed
Posted by MARTY on November 21, 2006, at 16:00:20
In reply to AmeSansVie - a brilliant mind, posted by ed_uk on November 21, 2006, at 14:29:18
A little thought in french for AmeSansVie ...Tu te considerait comme étant une ame sans vie, sans vie car plongé dans la tourmente dans ce corp malade, dans ce cerveau malade; maintenant que ton ame est libéré de ce corp, puisse ton ame être plus vivante que jamais!
Les gens ici bas t'aimeront et attendront ton retour, nous te rejoindrons dans quelques années et célébreront avec toi ta nouvelle vie, sans maladie.
Que ton ame soit vivante et en paix.
AmeSansVie could have thought of himself as a lifeless soul (AmeSansVie) because trapped into an ill body, an ill brain.. but now that he's free of this body, may is soul be more lifefull than ever! may he wait for us in heaven with a smile and enjoy his new found innerpeace, we will mourn in pain his death in our lifetime and celebrate, with him, his new life after our own death.
Marty
Posted by ed_uk on November 21, 2006, at 17:18:23
In reply to AmeSansVie, plus vivante que jamais. » ed_uk, posted by MARTY on November 21, 2006, at 16:00:20
That was good Marty. I believe French was his favourite language. He had studied it a lot.
Ed
Posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 18:34:11
In reply to Re: AmeSansVie, plus vivante que jamais. » MARTY, posted by ed_uk on November 21, 2006, at 17:18:23
I've sent one copy of the thread to Michaels Mother today so if you know of anyone else who may want to reply please notify them. I am so glad to see the support for Michael . And I know his Mom is too. Thanks all of you wonderful babblers. Love Phillipa
Posted by Crazy Horse on November 21, 2006, at 18:43:36
In reply to AmeSansVie, plus vivante que jamais. » ed_uk, posted by MARTY on November 21, 2006, at 16:00:20
>
> A little thought in french for AmeSansVie ...
>
> Tu te considerait comme étant une ame sans vie, sans vie car plongé dans la tourmente dans ce corp malade, dans ce cerveau malade; maintenant que ton ame est libéré de ce corp, puisse ton ame être plus vivante que jamais!
>
> Les gens ici bas t'aimeront et attendront ton retour, nous te rejoindrons dans quelques années et célébreront avec toi ta nouvelle vie, sans maladie.
>
> Que ton ame soit vivante et en paix.
>
> AmeSansVie could have thought of himself as a lifeless soul (AmeSansVie) because trapped into an ill body, an ill brain.. but now that he's free of this body, may is soul be more lifefull than ever! may he wait for us in heaven with a smile and enjoy his new found innerpeace, we will mourn in pain his death in our lifetime and celebrate, with him, his new life after our own death.
>
> Marty
That was very nice Martin...beautiful words and thoughts. :)-Monte
Posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 18:46:17
In reply to Re: AmeSansVie, plus vivante que jamais., posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 18:34:11
To all babblers here is Michael's Mother's response to the thread. Love Phillipa
Dear Jan,Is there some way you can express my gratitude to all of these people who appreciated and respected my son? I am thankful for all of the positive thoughts sent to me and Katie, Michael's sister. I am so happy that so many people recognized Michael for the special and brilliant young man he was.
Would you please try to convey this to them and assure them that my son's death was an accident? Please let them know that he meant what he had been posting and he was much better. Michael had the time of his life in September at the Austin City Limits Music Festival and posted this on My Space in his journal. I had about 6 months of my old Michael back before he left me. We had been talking in the mornings before I left for work and were going out together, shopping, dinner. In some ways, it feels more tragic to me due to this. I feel he was cheated just as he was learning to enjoy life again.
The comments people posted made me cry and cry but I know that crying is healing and it's OK.
Yes, I slept last night, with .5 mg Xanax. I do not want to get where I think I need that stuff. Wouldn't that be ironic after the years I was on Michael about it?
Love,
Cindy
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 22, 2006, at 12:52:03
In reply to Re: AmeSans Vie's Mothers Request To Inform You A., posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 18:46:17
> he meant what he had been posting and he was much better. Michael had the time of his life in September at the Austin City Limits Music Festival and posted this on My Space in his journal. I had about 6 months of my old Michael back before he left me. We had been talking in the mornings before I left for work and were going out together, shopping, dinner. In some ways, it feels more tragic to me due to this. I feel he was cheated just as he was learning to enjoy life again.
I agree, it makes it more sad that this happened just as he was opening up further:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20061018/msgs/696991.html
I'm sorry we didn't get more time with the "old" (for us, new) Michael.
Bob
Posted by zeugma on November 22, 2006, at 15:21:30
In reply to Re: my old Michael, posted by Dr. Bob on November 22, 2006, at 12:52:03
were two qualities I remember, besides his astonishing intellect.
-z
Posted by linkadge on November 22, 2006, at 16:49:58
In reply to hope and sweetness of temper, posted by zeugma on November 22, 2006, at 15:21:30
My age, with similar interests and a similar problems.
Thank you for allowing us to participate in his rememberance.
Linkadge
Posted by Deneb on November 22, 2006, at 18:01:26
In reply to Re: my old Michael, posted by Dr. Bob on November 22, 2006, at 12:52:03
I read Ame Sans Vie's MySpace page. It's so sad. He had such a promising future. He wanted to practice medicine one day.
"I aspire to practice medicine one day. Or at least find myself on the front-lines of truly altruistic drug research and development (if such a thing exists). I've taught myself a shitload (the technical term, yes) the past few years with regards to physiology, psychology, and pharmacology due to my own health difficulties. My approach to medicine when it comes to treating myself, for whatever may be ailing me, is an allopathic/holistic mish-mash that I must admit I am pretty damned proud to have adopted and applied."
I didn't really know Ames Sans Vie. With such varied interests such as music, linguistics and pharmacology, he must have been a very interesting person. I wish he didn't die. I'm sad.
Deneb*
Posted by ClearSkies on November 22, 2006, at 22:19:37
In reply to Strong Trigger Concerning Former Babbler Please do, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2006, at 21:32:52
We didn't know each other very well, but whenever we communicated, your compassion just shone. Michael, I'm sure that you are now an even brighter star in our night sky. I will look for you.
ClearSkies
Posted by ace on November 23, 2006, at 22:08:34
I was very saddened to here of the death of one of us psycho babblers. Obviously I communicated with him myself and he seemed a very forthright, helpful and caring individual.
I myself (via my band) am on myspace and so much wished I would have contacted him before this happened.
I apologize if this is in the wrong column.
Ace.
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