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Posted by corafree on October 18, 2006, at 15:00:37
Could it be once you have been on a particular AD and discontinued it, it may not be effective a second time? If so, why?
What's the consensus?
love, cf
Posted by bassman on October 18, 2006, at 18:06:52
In reply to AD burnout, posted by corafree on October 18, 2006, at 15:00:37
You bet-pretty common experience. It's sad when someone is doing really well, decides they don't need an AD anymore, stops-and predictably within a month starts to feel pretty depressed and agitated again. They start up their AD that helped so much only to find it does nothing helpful the second time.
I haven't seen any ideas about why it happens, but I bet there are some lurking out there waiting to appear...
Posted by Phillipa on October 18, 2006, at 22:22:19
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 18, 2006, at 18:06:52
Definitely want to join this thread as paxil at low doses once worked for me. Love Phillipa
Posted by bassman on October 19, 2006, at 17:59:34
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by Phillipa on October 18, 2006, at 22:22:19
Did you ever try Prozac? Your posts sound like me in terms of anxiety and responding to low dose Paxil. I know Prozac is supoosed to be stimulating, but at 15 mg/day, I don't find it to be. And it seem to work. Just a thought; I know you've been very anxious.
Posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2006, at 21:23:33
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 19, 2006, at 17:59:34
Thanks actually I'd suggested 5mg of prozac to my pdoc and she didn't buy it . I'm now planning on this endocrinologist referral as all my symtoms started when my thyroid went hypo about ll years now ago. My new theapist thinks this may all be physical and not mental as inside I have no reason to be depressed or anxious other than feeling that way. Love Phillipa
Posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 2:01:39
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 19, 2006, at 17:59:34
Afa Prozac, it once worked for me but only w/ a benzo attached. And, that is one in particular that did never work for me again. Can you take Paxil w/o it causing some anxiety?
Posted by bassman on October 21, 2006, at 7:34:57
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 2:01:39
That's so funny! I've found that SSRI's only work for me when used with a benzo-I took Paxil with 1 mg Xanax for the best three years of my life! Then I decided I didn't need the Xanax, withdrew from that and the Paxil "didn't work". I think what really happened was that I shouldn't have gotten rid of the Xanax; I say that because I started taking Prozac a few months ago and it didn't work (for panic disorder) until I started taking some Xanax and then poof! it worked great at as low as 5 mg (I'm taking 15 mg now).
But in answer to your question, I found Paxil very stimulating, unlike Prozac. Which is exactly opposite of the rest of the civilized world's experience. :>} That's why I needed the Xanax with it...
Posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 16:23:45
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 21, 2006, at 7:34:57
I was thinking about the same thing like night too, ... 'well those ADs R nothing w/o a benzo'! Why don't they just make up a combo!?
I wonder, now that I'm on Valium 3x a day, if Celexa (My sis-in-law, a nurse, suggested Celexa or Lexapro.) or Paxil would be something to think about.
I tried Paxil in the past alongside Xanax of course. Something was wrong ... can't recall. Wonder how it or Celexa would work w/ Valium.
I must stay on that benzo. Tried switch to Xanax, but had a near onset 'nervous system' breakdown ... quickly curtailed by the Valium I had on hand, thank goodness!
cf
Posted by Phillipa on October 21, 2006, at 19:44:07
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 16:23:45
l0mg of paxil a day with xanax worked for me for two years. My first ad. I stopped on my own. Love Phillipa
Posted by corafree on October 22, 2006, at 2:39:23
In reply to Re: AD burnout » corafree, posted by Phillipa on October 21, 2006, at 19:44:07
Hmmmm.
I tried it once and for some reason d.c.'d it.
At this time I am different and on a different benzo, so it would have a different affect, I think.
Just one thought of three.
tks, cf
Posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2006, at 18:14:01
In reply to Re: AD burnout » Phillipa, posted by corafree on October 22, 2006, at 2:39:23
I didn't answer you question as when paxil was tried again it didn't work. Love Phillipa
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 22, 2006, at 20:24:50
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 16:23:45
celexa was the best ad i have ever taken. it was still me -- but the upbeat part of me. eventually i melted down.
Posted by corafree on October 22, 2006, at 22:17:53
In reply to Re: AD burnout » corafree, posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2006, at 18:14:01
If I must go to another AD, think I'm leaning towards Celexa or Lexapro. Dunno yet. Doin' okay off E.
love, cf
Posted by corafree on October 22, 2006, at 22:24:16
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 22, 2006, at 20:24:50
Hmmm. Thank you.
love, cf
Posted by bassman on October 23, 2006, at 6:36:29
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by corafree on October 21, 2006, at 16:23:45
That's interesting-when I first took Xanax, I found it very stimulating-which went away in about a week. maybe has to do with the presumed antidepressant effect of Xanax.
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2006, at 13:16:01
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 23, 2006, at 6:36:29
I find Xanax to be more stimulating than Valium, that's 4 sure.
love, cf
Posted by bassman on October 23, 2006, at 15:45:32
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 23, 2006, at 6:36:29
The odd thing for me is that Xanax can be stimulating in a way that makes me less anxious-bushy-tailed, not fearful.
Posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2006, at 20:05:49
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 23, 2006, at 15:45:32
How come they don't relax me anymore just put me to sleep? Love Phillipa
Posted by corafree on October 24, 2006, at 0:20:20
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2006, at 20:05:49
RU sure your thyroid is okay?
I think we're both on similar meds.
If it were 'your first experience w/ a benzo', it would be understandable. But, it not being, there must be something else going on.
Have you cross-referenced w/ your other meds on net? Maybe use the search words fatigue, benzodiazepine, and then whatever med/meds UR on.
Hope can get to the bottom of this.
love, cf
Posted by bassman on October 24, 2006, at 6:00:22
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by Phillipa on October 23, 2006, at 20:05:49
You're taking Valium, and that's about all that Valium does for me...makes me sleepy. Even at 30 mg, I don't see any less anxiety, but I am feeling a bit sleepy...
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2006, at 19:14:19
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 24, 2006, at 6:00:22
Same here why? I used to just feel normal and relaxed. Love Phillipa
Posted by bassman on October 24, 2006, at 20:41:39
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2006, at 19:14:19
Time for a different benzo?
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2006, at 22:01:17
In reply to Re: AD burnout, posted by bassman on October 24, 2006, at 6:00:22
Any suggestions? It works for sleep and the xanax does nothing during the day. And klonopin depresses me so what's left? I liked ativan was on 6mg this pdoc would never go for that. Love Phillipa
Posted by bassman on October 25, 2006, at 5:17:17
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2006, at 22:01:17
6 mg Ativan (in theory, the equivalent of 3 mg/day of Xanax) isn't huge, especially since you having so many problems with anxiety now. Tell you doc that. Tell him if he doesn't give you a prescription, I'll let the air out of his tires while he's at work. :>}
Posted by corafree on October 25, 2006, at 13:16:20
In reply to Re: AD burnout » bassman, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2006, at 22:01:17
Good Wednesday Morning.
Whose taking 30mg Val? That much at once WOULD put me right to sleep.
And, Ativan is the drug all the young mothers are taking. No reason a P shouldn't allow that one.
love, cf
ps: I guess I'm 'addicted' to Eff-XR. Felt SO HORRIBLE yesterday. Took 75mg and am better already! It's a weird sort of addiction, I think.(?) Can't get into a thread. I'm sorta' confused this morn. Best get my coffee goin'.
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